2020 US Election (Part Two)

[Takhisis]

No, it's not the same.

So, to get back on to the elections: US states are suspending their primaries. How long is it until everybody just formalises that it's Trump v. Biden? Tomorrow? Monday?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Like you and quite a few others on this thread use "Fascist."

Perhaps. I do notice though that when I explained how I was using the term you didn't interrupt your monologue to comment one way or the other, and my prediction that in a week you will be right back to claiming that I 'have never answered' your question still stands.

 

[Patine]

No, it's not the same.

Yes, it is. There is, in fact a more stringent, tighter, narrower, and more strict definition by historical and academic consensus, and even the self-identification of those who truly deserve the title, of "Fascist," than, "Boomer."

 

[Timsup2nothin]

So, to get back on to the elections: US states are suspending their primaries. How long is it until everybody just formalises that it's Trump v. Biden? Tomorrow? Monday?

Rescheduling, not suspending. There are a lot of things on the primary ballots in every primary besides the presidential nominee, so those elections do eventually need to happen even if Sanders drops out officially.

 

[Zardnaar]

So, to get back on to the elections: US states are suspending their primaries. How long is it until everybody just formalises that it's Trump v. Biden? Tomorrow? Monday?

In the current scenario even super delegates outright nominating someone makes sense.

 

[Patine]

Perhaps. I do notice though that when I explained how I was using the term you didn't interrupt your monologue to comment one way or the other, and my prediction that in a week you will be right back to claiming that I 'have never answered' your question still stands.

I may not answer every single point, term, or issue in one of your big, long, angry screed posts. I don't think any poster on this forum is so thorough with big "brick of text," posts by anyone, reliably. You certainly aren't.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Yes, it is. There is, in fact a more stringent, tighter, narrower, and more strict definition by historical and academic consensus, and even the self-identification of those who truly deserve the title, of "Fascist," than, "Boomer."

Bull. Boomer is a clearly delineated age group bounded by numerical limits. Fascist is a subjective term and always has been.

 

[Patine]

Perhaps. I do notice though that when I explained how I was using the term you didn't interrupt your monologue to comment one way or the other, and my prediction that in a week you will be right back to claiming that I 'have never answered' your question still stands.

And your explanation of how you use the term fell flat and lacked legitimacy or credibility, like the "reasons," everyone else on these forum who misuses the term do.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I may not answer every single point, term, or issue in one of your big, long, angry screed posts. I don't think any poster on this forum is so thorough with big "brick of text," posts by anyone, reliably. You certainly aren't.

LOL...in other words, there was no point in answering your question, since you just ignored it. Noted for future reference. Feel free to ask more questions now that you've stated how you will proceed when they are answered.

 

[Patine]

Bull. Boomer is a clearly delineated age group bounded by numerical limits. Fascist is a subjective term and always has been.

Fascist is only "subjective," to hyperbolic, slanderous, sensationalist, propogandist, and/or irresponsibly-speaking loudmouths and misinformed (or self-denying) fools. In truth, it DOES a real definition, and a fairly tight and narrow one, in historic and academic consensus, and those who were truly deserving of the title. It doesn't matter how many people on these forums tell me I'm wrong here - it changes nothing, because I am not the one who defined it - those ones are all long dead decades ago. But attacking my actual education and knowledge on the topic with rabid, deconstructionist bile will change nothing, in truth.

LOL...in other words, there was no point in answering your question, since you just ignored it. Noted for future reference. Feel free to ask more questions now that you've stated how you will proceed when they are answered.

No, that's not what I said. But your neurotic need to dumb down these posts of mine, and other more eloquent posters - erroneously and crudely so - says little for you...

 

[Farm Boy]

My brief residency in Illinois was during my apolitical period. Technically wasn't in Chicago either.

Ah ok, may have interpreted past posts incorrectly.

 

[Birdjaguar]

"Boomer" is not an age—it is a state of mind. I have a friend who is a boomer, and he is only 29.

Just like "skinny" is not a body shape, but a state of mind. Just like calling people kings and "kweens" isn't affirming their monarchical status.


Yes, Reagan started this mess, but the Dems have never tried to stop it. It's almost comical that out of all people Trump is the one saying that companies need to bring jobs back to the US.

It is your prerogative to redefine words for personal use. You do everyone a disservice if you do so without explaining to others what you are doing though. And you create unnecessary confusion.

And I assume that you would approve if I called you an effing stupid moron and when you responded, I claimed that you took it the wrong way because as I see it "an effing stupid moron" is just a state of mind and not an insult.

Language is a dynamic device, but it is not free form for personal exploitation.

And Trump may say he wants to repatriate jobs in the US, but business actually doesn't want to. In his first three years Trump failed to make a dent. All bluster.

 

[Takhisis]

My brief residency in Illinois was during my apolitical period. Technically wasn't in Chicago either.

So you were alive when you were in Illinois. I might be on to something.

 

[amadeus]

So, to get back on to the elections: US states are suspending their primaries. How long is it until everybody just formalises that it's Trump v. Biden? Tomorrow? Monday?

Eh, they can pretty much just cancel the rest of the primaries. I don’t mean if that’s true legally now, but until the 1960s the candidates were largely picked by party insiders and voting primaries were not the norm.

You know who won the 1952 Democratic primaries? Estes Kefauver with 65%. Know who was the nominee? Adlai Stevenson, who won 0 states.

 

[Patine]

I don’t mean if that’s true legally now, but until the 1960s the candidates were largely picked by party insiders and voting primaries were not the norm.

As far as I can gather, only General Elections are governed, and demanded to be a certain date, by the U.S. Constitution and solid Federal and State electoral law. Legally, as I understand, Primaries are governed by Party regulations, as they're just a vehicle for Party nomination, not directly for elected government office.

 

[Birdjaguar]

As far as I can gather, only General Elections are governed, and demanded to be a certain date, by the U.S. Constitution and solid Federal and State electoral law. Legally, as I understand, Primaries are governed by Party regulations, as they're just a vehicle for Party nomination, not directly for elected government office.

Yes, primaries are run by the parties in conjunction with the states.

 

[Zardnaar]

Don't get to vote for party leader here.

 

[Patine]

Don't get to vote for party leader here.

If it's anything like Canada, you buy a party membership card before the leadership election is held.

 

[Berzerker]

Biden, Sanders, and Tom Perez and the DNC are under fire for not delaying primaries

 

[Zardnaar]

If it's anything like Canada, you buy a party membership card before the leadership election is held.

Not sure how all the parties do it but Labor is a mix trade unionists, caucus, and members. It was heavily weighted towards the trade unionists but I think they changed it after they went through several leaders before they picked Jacinda 6 weeks out from election.

The previous leader had the self awareness he couldn't win and stood down for the deputy leader iirc.

Usually the caucus pick wins anyway.