90's Rock is Hipster?

[yung.carl.jung]

I expected another calming video.

Swift is one of the things that's just not very good. She is the marquee of when modern pop doesn't know how to sing with stresses, something that's like nails on chalkboard when you notice, and her hooks are like paste. And yes, I like contemporary pop. She will be remembered - as the first star to properly utilize SoMe.

I read that as "her looks are like paste" and instantly agreed.

also fully agreed on T Swizzle's music. I keep trying to give her a chance because I see a lot of serious reviewers pushing her music. it's hot garbage. I'd rather listen to vapid pop that is actually enjoyable.

 

[warpus]

I was talking about hipsters before the word hipster was invented

 

[Narz]

My local radio station plays a lot of 1990s music during their "classic rock" segment. I'm not sure what to make of that.

90's rock is classic. Nirvana deserves to be as classic as the Beatles.

 

[Lexicus]

Nirvana deserves to be as classic as the Beatles.

 

[Recon Rover]

Although... I remember when Nirvana came out on the radio it did sound different than anything else at the time. Anyways, I find their music dated now and I can barely listen to it. If you think they should be in the league of the Beatles that's too bad.

Anyways, no one has mentioned Dinosaur Jr?

Also what do you expect of hipsters? They're underdeveloped adults. It's actually disturbing.

Here's an 80s song with great advice for hipsters:

Spoiler Endicott - Kid Creole and the Coconuts :

 

[Kyriakos]

Although... I remember when Nirvana came out on the radio it did sound different than anything else at the time. Anyways, I find their music dated now and I can barely listen to it. If you think they should be in the league of the Beatles that's too bad.

Anyways, no one has mentioned Dinosaur Jr?

Also what do you expect of hipsters? They're underdeveloped adults. It's actually disturbing.

Here's an 80s song with great advice for hipsters:

Spoiler Endicott - Kid Creole and the Coconuts :

I feel the pain of everyone.
And then I feel nothing

 

[Patine]

Although... I remember when Nirvana came out on the radio it did sound different than anything else at the time. Anyways, I find their music dated now and I can barely listen to it. If you think they should be in the league of the Beatles that's too bad.

Anyways, no one has mentioned Dinosaur Jr?

Also what do you expect of hipsters? They're underdeveloped adults. It's actually disturbing.

Here's an 80s song with great advice for hipsters:

Spoiler Endicott - Kid Creole and the Coconuts :

Music doesn't become "dated" - individual listeners' tastes change. Even Prince's "1999" didn't become "dated" in the 21st Century if you have the right musical appreciations.

 

[Narz]

Although... I remember when Nirvana came out on the radio it did sound different than anything else at the time.

They are pretty unique.

Anyways, I find their music dated now and I can barely listen to it.

They've been massively overplayed but when I listen, really listen, they're still pretty amazing.

If you think they should be in the league of the Beatles that's too bad.

The Beatles songs get old after like 5 plays, IMO, whereas Nirvana I've heard many of their songs at least 100 times.

The song that for some reason my brain never tires of is this one :

It's not that I think it's the best song but I just never get tired of it when I do hear it (most recently, besides right now, at work a couple weeks ago)

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Plush is a good song. I also like Trippin' On a Hole in a Paper Heart. It took me three tries to not mess up typing that title.

 

[Zardnaar]

Nirvana is generation X's Beatles.

The only real downside are a few songs overplayed.

Plush doesn't get old. Neither does this IMHO.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

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The Beatles songs get old after like 5 plays, IMO, whereas Nirvana I've heard many of their songs at least 100 times.

it's like the complete opposite for me. Beatle's albums like Revolver and Sgt Pepper never get old, but Smells like Teen Spirit is about as exiting as babysitting a sloth after the Xth listen. it really gets worse every time I hear it. I don't hate nirvana, I think they're a decent band, just not nearly as great as people make 'em out to be.

I also do not think highly of Kurt tbh. never "got" the cult of personality around him. though he did have great taste, more about that later.

Although... I remember when Nirvana came out on the radio it did sound different than anything else at the time.

they ripped their style from pixies (this is a direct quote, no joke, and I mean it in the best possible way) and took MAJOR inspiration from all the lesser known bands signed on sub-pop. I had a girlfriend who was really into Kurt so she gave me his biography, he actually wrote all of this down without shame. that's one thing I really respect about Kurt, he was always so open about his influences. there is even a list with his fav albums, which reveals he had pretty great taste. really big into hip hop, surprisingly.

grunge music is pretty much just a softie version of sludge rock (or sludge metal) and most seattle bands didn't really want anything to do with it:

The term "Seattle sound" became a marketing ploy for the music industry.[17] In September 1991, the Nirvana album Nevermind was released, bringing mainstream attention to the music of Seattle. Nirvana's frontman Kurt Cobain loathed the word "grunge"[2] and despised the new scene that was developing, feeling that record companies were signing old "cock-rock" bands who were pretending to be grunge and claiming to be from Seattle.[18]

Some bands associated with the genre, such as Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains, have not been receptive to the label, preferring instead to be referred to as "rock and roll" bands.[19][20][21] Ben Shepherd from Soundgarden stated that he "hates the word" grunge and hates "being associated with it."[22] Seattle musician Jeff Stetson states that when he visited Seattle in the late 1980s and early 1990s as a touring musician, the local musicians did not refer to themselves as "grunge" performers or their style as "grunge" and they were not flattered that their music was being called "grunge".[23]

I think Nirvana is one of the weirdest bands to be called "unique". they're anything but, they found a style and executed it really, really well. there's a reason the riff from SLTS is in everyone's head.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

proof:

Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain said that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was an attempt to write a song in the style of the Pixies, a band he greatly admired:

I was trying to write the ultimate pop song. I was basically trying to rip off the Pixies. I have to admit it. When I heard the Pixies for the first time, I connected with that band so heavily that I should have been in that band—or at least a Pixies cover band. We used their sense of dynamics, being soft and quiet and then loud and hard.[5]

and who could really blame him. I had the same reaction to Pixies.

 

[Hygro]

QUOTE="Angst, post: 15537353, member: 111759"]I expected another calming video.

Swift is one of the things that's just not very good. She is the marquee of when modern pop doesn't know how to sing with stresses, something that's like nails on chalkboard when you notice, and her hooks are like paste. And yes, I like contemporary pop. She will be remembered - as the first star to properly utilize SoMe.[/QUOTE]

I read that as "her looks are like paste" and instantly agreed.

also fully agreed on T Swizzle's music. I keep trying to give her a chance because I see a lot of serious reviewers pushing her music. it's hot garbage. I'd rather listen to vapid pop that is actually enjoyable.

You guys need to calm down.

That song is fire. The music video is terrible just pretend you didn't see it, it's a night time song not a day time song anyway. Fully electronic. The best part is the cascading "uh ohs" but the following chorus is pretty good. You can crank it. The bass is huge. The versus are pretty weak, so is the bridge.

Her other big hit from like 5 years ago is also super fun, Shake it Off. I think Taylor's strength, similar to Justin Bieber, is that her biggest budget singles are her best works. Really her best songs are about telling other people annoying her, too. Weird.

But I do agree, way overrated. A lot of her best little voice tricks that I would characterize as her brand are a direct rip on Selena Gomez, who herself pirated everything she did. Like yeah, all music is iterative and even then, mostly just a rehash, and Selena is super extra guilty, and Swift's best moves are Selena's moves.

Though her career does seem pretty much completed, or long crested, I would give the personal-preference pop singer of our era award to Selena Gomez. Now there's a discography I can relisten to over and over again. And again.

Most influential goes to Lorde, however. Almost every girl that followed sounds like her. I've been calling them Lorde clones. I saw a memorable bit of Ishkur snark (who did finally release his 3.0 electronic music guide last month after 15 years) something like "Billie Eilish is Lorde if Lorde was a cutter". Says more about our projection of cutters than people who cut themselves but it resonated. Bea Miller, Jessie Reyez, whatever Hey Violet turned into, a bunch more. All Lorde clones. Only Swift is a Selena Gomez clone. They even had both had a pre-pop-star, Swift as country and Gomez as the lead singer of an LA pop punk band called "The Scene".

Did you know she didn't even want to be called "Selena Gomez and the Scene"? They made her stick her name in front. Somewhere in an alternate timeline where Bernie Sanders is president there's an electronic punk super group called "The Scene" like a newer better Metric front-personed by an ever talented Selena Gomez who dropped her latest single a 14 minute space rock ballad. But tbh our universe was probably a better fit. Because when they made songs as terrible as Your Love is Off The Chain or the actually pretty good but same formula My Dilemma (2.0, aka they rewrote the bridge) there was no band called The Scene doing anything.

Her last full album is actually like legit art.

 

[Narz]

@ yung I do see the Pixies influence. They are also great.

I think people like Kurt because he was very genuine & passionate.

 

[Hygro]

To be clear "Your Love is Off The Chain" somehow delivers. I can't explain. It's just somehow off the chain. Made it on my repeat Selena Gomez playlist. Stars Dance is another repeat track. And the Swift music video, they could have had the same cast and costumes and made it great, just stick it in a city and make it dark out and have the "toxic" elements not be a bunch of rural-people tropes, but proper keksters or wasted aggressive people, or better, have the "calm down" be a look in the mirror when your inner hater is getting exuberant.

Kurt Cobain has an amazing voice. I can listen to him almost always, although Smells Like Teen Spirit, a great song, I am bored of.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

grunge music is pretty much just a softie version of sludge rock (or sludge metal) and most seattle bands didn't really want anything to do with it:

The term "Seattle sound" became a marketing ploy for the music industry.[17] In September 1991, the Nirvana album Nevermind was released, bringing mainstream attention to the music of Seattle. Nirvana's frontman Kurt Cobain loathed the word "grunge"[2] and despised the new scene that was developing, feeling that record companies were signing old "cock-rock" bands who were pretending to be grunge and claiming to be from Seattle.[18]

Some bands associated with the genre, such as Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains, have not been receptive to the label, preferring instead to be referred to as "rock and roll" bands.[19][20][21] Ben Shepherd from Soundgarden stated that he "hates the word" grunge and hates "being associated with it."[22] Seattle musician Jeff Stetson states that when he visited Seattle in the late 1980s and early 1990s as a touring musician, the local musicians did not refer to themselves as "grunge" performers or their style as "grunge" and they were not flattered that their music was being called "grunge".[23]

I think Nirvana is one of the weirdest bands to be called "unique". they're anything but, they found a style and executed it really, really well. there's a reason the riff from SLTS is in everyone's head.

Moist (Vancouver band) has a pretty neat sound. I can hear a bit of grunge/Seattle influence in there, but it's far from actual grunge.

 

[Lexicus]

The Beatles songs get old after like 5 plays, IMO, whereas Nirvana I've heard many of their songs at least 100 times.

Bro listen to Abbey Road

 

[Kyriakos]

Live was supposed to be a hipster band, and an REM fan band, but I liked their first hit:

It was massive at the time.

 

[Zardnaar]

Live is kind of post grunge. Yeah liked them at the time.

Best music in the world is probably whatever you were listening to as a teenager/early 20s.

 

[Kyriakos]

Live is kind of post grunge. Yeah liked them at the time.

Best music in the world is probably whatever you were listening to as a teenager/early 20s.

Therapy? was always a good band, and is still around, making nice songs.