A New Dawn Bug Reports and Feedback

[Afforess]

Well, when I'm available I'll try to help where I can, but I'm available off and on. I'm also not that much of a civ expert - my job means I'm a general troubleshooter (which mostly means I fix things after clients/users make a mess).

That generally solves 1/2 of errors on these forums. I wish more people could troubleshoot, but then that would put you out of job, .

But to help, mind if I ask what machine you're running the game on? What OS version? Would help to setup a baseline for when the modmod works fine.

My specs on are my profile.

@afforess: This is not typical behaviour for my pc, either playing Civ or doing anything else. I played ROM 2.9 for several hours without any ctd - the crashes only started with AND. I had experienced this sort of problem previously (usually with new versions of ROM and/or AND, though note, not with 2.9!), and things were eventually sorted with patches.
Re sp3 - no reason, I just haven't seen the need for it.

I'm afraid I don't have any more ideas. The only thing I can definitively say (and I hate to say this, it's such a cop-out answer) is that the problem is on your end. I tested your save and had no crashes for 25 turns before I quit testing. I can only give you basic advice, update drivers, install AntiVirus, update Windows... etc...

 

[Afforess]

Afforess, here is the log file, as you asked:

Installed Components:
{Required Files} {Military Civics} {Beautification Project} {Castle Improvements} {Ice Breaker} Meteorology {Realistic Diplomacy} {Seafaring } {War Prizes} Arctic {Larger Cities} {Espionage Process} Forestation {Sea Tunnels} Terraforming {Lead From Behind} {Event Images} Sports {Civic Buildings} {Early Buildings} ANM {Historical Wonders} {Mega Civ Patch} {Better RoM} Withdraw Guilds {Modern Corporations} {Improved Artwork} {Airbase Range} {Civic Diplomacy} {Battlefield Promotions} {Better Air Interception} {Trading Posts} {Spy Satellites}

Install Type:
Standard

Version:
1.72

Install Directory:
C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rise of Mankind

Windows Version:
WinXP

Great, thanks. I'll look into your problem.

 

[digitCruncher]

OK... the first post doesn't have any current bug reports, so here is one, which has completely stopped my game

In short, I beelined Super-sonic flight, so I could get the 'unlimited air transport' boon. With it, I was able to re-inforce my newly captured Iriquos settlement, and, more importantly, move my airforce to bear on the Incans.

It worked. As you can see now, there are around 30-ish planes (mostly bombers, but a few P59's, and a few Strategic bombers <3) hovering over Inca and Aztecs.

After vassalising the Incans in 1 turn (captured 3 cities in the turn I declared war), and the Aztecs in 2 (captured 3 cities, and then another one on the third turn, then accepted peace), I decided the 3 hour session was too long, and saved.

Re-loaded several hours later and... whats this? I cannot re-inforce my army!? I have been limited to a tiny region of rebasing and air-lifting!! Completing a turn does not work.

I do *NOT* have a working save of when I was able to rebase (Going back 1 turn in autosaves doesn't allow me to transport), so obviously the ability to traverse the world in air-lifts and rebase missions is NOT saved with the game. As proof, I provide the auto save of the turn before (Note: Strategic Bomber 4 of Lagash is in Lagash at this time), and the current turn (Note: Strategic Bomber 4 of Lagash is now in Vilcas, an Aztec settlement, on the other side of the world). The only way it could get there is from the boon from supersonic flight, but in the autosave, you CANNOT make that journey

Log file:

{Required Files} {Ice Breaker} {Realistic Diplomacy} {Seafaring } {War Prizes} Arctic {Espionage Process} Forestation {Sea Tunnels} Terraforming {Lead From Behind} {Event Images} NIMBY ANM {Historical Wonders} Formations {Mega Civ Patch} {Better RoM} Withdraw Depletion Guilds {Modern Corporations} {Coal UI} {Better RoM Artwork} {Airbase Range} {Civic Diplomacy} {Battlefield Promotions}

Custom

Note: This is also probably an old-ish version (1.70), but I didn't notice anything in the changelogs, so it is still probably a current bug. And it is annoying having strategic bombers capable of attacking at a greater distance than they can re-base!!

 

[Afforess]

You are indeed correct. I didn't even need to see your saves to confirm it. I forgot to save the variables for re-basing. I will release a patch B sometime today (err... Saturday, Eastern Time) to fix it. I need sleep first.

 

[Justin Cray]

When I end the turn it stops all animation (music continues) and fails to react.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/o1jhkmyftmm/Ragnar AD-1419-July.CivBeyondSwordSave

Installed Components:
{Required Files} {Military Civics} {Ice Breaker} {Ideology Civics} Meteorology {Realistic Diplomacy} {Seafaring } {Resource Refinement} {War Prizes} Zoology Arctic {Larger Cities} {Espionage Process} Forestation {Sea Tunnels} Terraforming {Lead From Behind} {Event Images} Education NIMBY {Civic Buildings} {No Storms} {Early Buildings} {Historical Wonders} {Mega Civ Patch} {Better RoM} Domestic Farming {Modern Corporations} {Improved Artwork} {Water Mod} {Airbase Range} {Civic Diplomacy} Transportation {Misc Buildings} {Battlefield Promotions} Health {Better Air Interception} Research {Spy Satellites} Tactics

Install Type:
Custom

Version:
1.72

Install Directory:
C:\Steam\steamapps\common\sid meier's civilization iv beyond the sword\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rise of Mankind

Windows Version:
Windows (edit: Windows 7 Ultimate actually)

 

[Justin Cray]

btw I don't think Tactics is a good idea, there are now three different ways to get +1 to movement, wich is actually fine in a Quick game but I think it'll break slower games

 

[Flay]

Afforess?
Can you confirm that: (if you do I got a problem to fix . . .)

ROM 2.90 + AnD 1.71 Multiplayer - pitboss?

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just to let everyone know:

ROM 2.90 + A new Dawn 1.71 work like a charm in MP with Revolutions on. strangely enough I tried to do it via Pitboss and it goes OOS as soon as someone joins.

Any Idea how to fix this?

Elvince

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=360633

 

[Ciffor]

If this really is a bug, I don't know.

I've been playing A New Dawn for some time now, and it's just great. But I have run into somewhat of a mystery regarding sound.

There's no sound in the game besides in the CIV 4 introduction movie and in some of the wonder movies.

I have no sound problem at all, with other applications nor windows and nor when I start a new ordinary game of civ without RoM/A New Dawn. And I've tried to change sound settings both in game and in Windows with no luck.
So, I figure it's gotta be A New Dawn .

Please help, as I really like the music accompanier me while I play

Thanks in advance for any help.

- Ciffor

 

[Retrospect]

Ok, please disregard this advice.

Please, for the love of God, disregard this advice.

Do you know how many times I've had to deal with computers that were corrupted due to users being too sure of themselves? Do you know how much of Windows Vista/7 (and just about any modern operating system's) security is dependent on programs NOT running as administrator?

No? Then please don't take this advice.

You'll save yourself a bunch of headaches down the road (then you'll have plenty of time for retrospect, nach). I say this as someone that fixes computers and is currently, as we speak, cleaning out a computer that had been turned into a zombie by a "freeware" game that had been installed by a client's daughter who had been given admin privileges (not that the client herself is much use, as she's a complete ignoramus about computers too - but at least she knows it and readily admits it).

As I said in an earlier post, just changing the security on the Usersettings directory in the RoM folder is the safest, best, really, way of allowing you to handle mods without compromising your system. If you reinstall the mod often, however, you're better off changing the security on the mods folder. PM me if you want instructions on doing so.

Unless you happen to be in the west-side of the Toronto (Ontario, Canada) area. Then you can PM after your computer gets malwared to death/zombified/whatever. I charge by the hour, two hours minimum.

Well if you can't do ANYTHING because UAC or security essentials says you can't then what other option do you have? I am the admin of my computer and only user however I am constantly bombarded by restriction notices when I try to do the simplest of tasks, such as mod a game that I have installed.

UAC makes my computer 'hang' indefinatley when I attempt to activate certain .exe's. Microsoft security essentials has now joined this club by doing pretty much the same thing. To protect users they have taken almost all power away from users which is far worse in my opinion than getting the odd virus from time to time.

Show me a 'valid' solution to this and I will gladly use it!

 

[Arakhor]

Well, I simply never install games to Program Files. I'm only on XP, but I like my computer to be a sensible filing system and having all my games under a specific games folder makes perfect sense to me.

Afforess, for the "Flavour of the Week" option (with a U, naturally), I'd be interested in seeing what options are installed before going ahead with it. Is there any way of doing that to your satisfaction?

 

[asekritov]

Hello, everyone. I appreciate great work done by Afforess, but after installing 1.72 i've encountered a problem similar to traxantes's. After playing for some time game crashed with windows error, tried to reload from autosave, but it allways continue to crash every 2-3 turns. Tried install sp3, didn't helped. With 1.71 i had no such crashes and could play for several hours.
Only additional modmod i use is Aaranda's religions. (btw., why don't you add it to your pak?)

Installed Components:
{Required Files} {Military Civics} {Beautification Project} {Castle Improvements} {Ideology Civics} Meteorology {Realistic Diplomacy} {Seafaring } {Resource Refinement} {War Prizes} Zoology Firestorm Arctic {Larger Cities} {Espionage Process} Forestation {Sea Tunnels} Terraforming {Lead From Behind} {Event Images} Education Sports NIMBY {Civic Buildings} {Early Buildings} ANM {Historical Wonders} Formations {Mega Civ Patch} {Better RoM} Withdraw Farming Guilds {Modern Corporations} {Coal UI} {Improved Artwork} {Water Mod} {Airbase Range} {Civic Diplomacy} Transportation {Misc Buildings} {Battlefield Promotions} Health {Better Air Interception} Research Wilderness {Trading Posts} {Spy Satellites} Tactics

Install Type:
Custom

Version:
1.72

Install Directory:
C:\Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rise of Mankind

Windows Version:
WinXP

 

[strategyonly]

Got these two errors:

1. Got this when another civ tried to trade a worker.

Traceback (most recent call last):

File "BugUtil", line 695, in <lambda>

File "DiplomacyUtil", line 223, in handleAIComment

File "DiplomacyUtil", line 238, in dispatchEvent

File "DiplomacyUtil", line 194, in dispatch

File "DiplomacyUtil", line 486, in getProposedTrade

File "BugUtil", line 255, in debug

File "BugUtil", line 282, in log

File "TradeUtil", line 527, in __repr__

File "TradeUtil", line 542, in format

File "TradeUtil", line 544, in format

File "TradeUtil", line 680, in format

File "TradeUtil", line 594, in <lambda>

File "TradeUtil", line 634, in getTradeWorkers

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'getDescription'
ERR: Python function beginDiplomacy failed, module CvDiplomacyInterface


2. Got this somehow, ?

Traceback (most recent call last):

File "CvScreensInterface", line 429, in pediaJumpToTech

File "SevoPediaMain", line 285, in pediaJump

File "SevoPediaTech", line 88, in interfaceScreen

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'getButton'

 

[scribbler]

@afforess: This is not typical behaviour for my pc, either playing Civ or doing anything else. I played ROM 2.9 for several hours without any ctd - the crashes only started with AND. I had experienced this sort of problem previously (usually with new versions of ROM and/or AND, though note, not with 2.9!), and things were eventually sorted with patches.
Re sp3 - no reason, I just haven't seen the need for it.
@scribbler: if I were a tech-savvy user (whatever is meant by that phrase) I might not see fit to post my ctd problems here. Do you have any useful advice to offer on my problems?

Ok, first with regards to your problem:

I've had the AI run your save over 200 turns without a hitch. Heck, your game works better than most of mine at that map size and speed. So the next step is to find out why your game is crashing.

Turn on logging as described here (2k Games site).

In your case the file _Civ4Config would be in J:\Games\Civilization IV\Beyond the Sword\. Remember that it's a shortcut, so it can be confusing (not that I was confused the first time I tried to find it, really... ).

Then, after the crash, look through the generated log file and find out what caused the problem/ran last.

Now, with regards to SP3, there are a number of security and stability issues which will not be addressed if you haven't upgraded, that were patched after SP3 came out. Since SP3 has been out for quite some time now, there's little reason not to upgrade unless you know one of your programs (or hardware for some reason) isn't compatible. Aside from that, really, the only reasons left for anyone not to upgrade would be because they are very afraid of losing data (in which case they should be backing things up anyway), or they are afraid that their copy of windows will become invalid (or is invalid) because of activation troubles (for whatever reason). If you think you have a hacked/cracked copy of Windows (and I've seen people have these sold to them, including a business where all their PCs were showing the non-genuine logo), you can usually pick up a copy cheap with a used computer (cheaper than buying new WinXP, and you get a backup/linux machine that you can use for NAS). MS is actually pretty good about changing your key to a good one after the fact, even though you shouldn't be doing so with OEM keys (it's not in the TOU, although in some places it's illegal for MS to stop you from doing so as it falls under fair use - check your local digital copyright protection laws if you want to be completely on the level). That will at least give you a valid working copy of windows so you can get all the upgrades.

Is that more along the lines of what you were looking for yer highness?

 

[Jozef]

Thank you for the explanations regarding stability issues of Service Pack 2 v. Service Pack 3, but I dont think that this is the problem here -

I updated the AND to patch A, but i still have CTD every several turns, and this never happen in previous versions of AND.

 

[Toddy]

Toddy, I have released 1.72 Patch A which will fix your CTD problem.

Many thanks, glad it helped.

 

[traxantes]

@scribbler
OK, if there's an offer to look at the logs? Here they are. By the way, I'm not royalty, so normal form of person to person address is fine.

 

[scribbler]

Well if you can't do ANYTHING because UAC or security essentials says you can't then what other option do you have? I am the admin of my computer and only user however I am constantly bombarded by restriction notices when I try to do the simplest of tasks, such as mod a game that I have installed.

UAC makes my computer 'hang' indefinatley when I attempt to activate certain .exe's. Microsoft security essentials has now joined this club by doing pretty much the same thing. To protect users they have taken almost all power away from users which is far worse in my opinion than getting the odd virus from time to time.

Show me a 'valid' solution to this and I will gladly use it!

No, it's not far worse than getting the odd virus from time to time. Not when you realize what a virus can do. How do you think denial of service attacks are organized? Where do you think they get the machines to execute attacks like that? And who do you think can be held liable for damages? That's not to mention what can happen when your personal passwords are getting

BTW, modding for Civ IV is NOT a simple task. Maybe in Civ V it will be, but right now, because of the way it's all structured, there are certain security elements which were never meant to be used. Users should NOT be mucking about in any application directories. Unfortunately, we do, and the fact that we have to is bad programming on Firaxis' part. Their only excuse is that they were originally writing the game for XP, which did not have such stringent rules.

But given all that we don't live in a perfect world, we should deal with what we have as best we can. And to make modding possible for Civ IV without needing to run the game as an admin, just set the entire civilization directory for full access by the users group.

Well, before I go on, a note about UAC. UAC is a good tool when you're aware of it. When all you're ever doing is waiting for it to pop up just so you can click yes, then it's not working for you as it was designed to. It's like a buddy who asks you if you really want to drink that yellow liquid some stranger thrust into your hand at a party. Might be beer, might not. You get the idea. If you have a tendency to ignore your buddy, then by all means turn it off. But do not, for the love of jove, make everything run as admin.

Now, if you're being asked by the UAC for admin privileges for every program, something is very wrong with your install. Most likely is that you have a trojan/malware that isn't being detected by/knows how to spoof security essentials. This is rare but I've seen it. The Antivirus series of malware (think Antivirus 2010 is the latest), for instance, is pretty good at going undetected (at least parts of it are). There are also similar systems, not to mention rootkits which no AV software is all that good at.

You'll first want to check that your security settings are set up right. Sometimes folks which are only half aware of how things work set them wrong, like making the system need admin privileges to execute a file. Similarly, some malware might do this, although I've never run across anything like that.

If those turn out to be fine, try the following.

1. Make sure your firewall is working right.
2. Download and install Spybot S&D from safernetworking, download all updates, do a full scan. Clean.
3. Same with Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware.
4. If you've gotten rid of security essentials, download and install Avast Antivirus, do a full update then scan & clean. If you installed AVG, uninstall that first. Do note that Avast has more false-positives, but it doesn't ignore stuff like AVG often does.
5. If you're still having problems, download and run the MS malicious software removal tool with a full scan (very thorough, but also very slow)

If that doesn't solve it, and you have an actual problem (and the system isn't working as designed), you'll probably have to take it into a shop. Or use your solution. Just remember that it's not really a very good solution.

Mind you, this is all coming from a guy who used to run XP from SP0 to passed SP2 without any antivirus software, and never got a single virus (did do scans every so often, but stayed clean without active protection. Whether you can do the same depends on a large number of factors which I'm not going to get into. It's just safe to say that most people need AV software of some sort, though often people have AV software that goes out of date (not a problem with MSE), in which case they end up thinking they're protected when they're not.

 

[xcrissxcrossx]

I am having the same exact problem as traxantes and Josef. It only started when I installed AND 1.72. This is my first game using Ruthless AI but that is the only difference I have made.

 

[scribbler]

@scribbler
OK, if there's an offer to look at the logs? Here they are. By the way, I'm not royalty, so normal form of person to person address is fine.

Aww, you're gonna make me get off my high horse. And I like it up here!

Here's the only bit that sticks out for me. It's in PythonErr.log. Afforess would be better for figuring out what's happening here.

Spoiler :

Traceback (most recent call last):

File "CvScreensInterface", line 987, in forceScreenRedraw

File "CvMainInterface", line 1441, in redraw

File "CvMainInterface", line 4874, in updateInfoPaneStrings

RuntimeError: unidentifiable C++ exception
ERR: Python function forceScreenRedraw failed, module CvScreensInterface
Traceback (most recent call last):

File "CvScreensInterface", line 971, in forceScreenUpdate

File "CvMainInterface", line 1324, in updateScreen

RuntimeError: unidentifiable C++ exception
ERR: Python function forceScreenUpdate failed, module CvScreensInterface

I should mention that my own test run was in fact in 1.72. But since this is a problem folks are having since upgrading to 1.72, it seems that it should have the same effect. I'm also now running a shorter test game with the same quicksave under 1.72A. Should see if there's any difference.

 

[Snofru1]

If I play AND 1.72A in German then I don´t see the name of most (or even all?) buildings that are added by AND (ROM 2.91 buildings are doing fine). There are simply no names, not ingame and not in the civilopedia, although the translations do exist in the xml files. I see this e.g. with the Early Buildings (and many more).

Here my A New Dawn.log:

Installed Components:
{Required Files} {Military Civics} {Beautification Project} {Castle Improvements} {Ice Breaker} {Ideology Civics} Meteorology {Realistic Diplomacy} {Seafaring } Zoology Firestorm Arctic {Larger Cities} {Espionage Process} Forestation {Sea Tunnels} Terraforming {Lead From Behind} {Event Images} Education Sports NIMBY {Civic Buildings} {Early Buildings} ANM {Historical Wonders} {Mega Civ Patch} {Better RoM} Domestic Withdraw Farming Guilds {Modern Corporations} {Warriors of God} {Improved Artwork} {Water Mod} {Airbase Range} {Civic Diplomacy} Transportation {Misc Buildings} {Battlefield Promotions} Health {Better Air Interception} Research Wilderness {Trading Posts} {Spy Satellites} Tactics

Install Type:
Custom

Version:
1.72

Install Directory:
C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rise of Mankind

Windows Version:
Vista