A Paul Presidency

If Ron Paul have nutty, extremist views and have you respect them, why can't I?

I suppose I should state that I'm actually not a Ron Paul supporter, but I do admire a number of his views. I simply think you're being unreasonable with your assertion that somehow he would become this dictator if he were to disregard the rules set by the justice department, which the president is not legally bound to given the US constitution.

A reduction of spending in that area to 2006 levels, a time of relativel prosperity, when the current number of recipients is rising due to unemployment and unemployment, is nothing other than a cut, it is simply one responsiblity he prefers to wash his hands of and have somebody else take care of.

... Which, while the rest of the budget is brought back to 2006 levels, social security and medicare is left untouched and to continue with their projected growth in spending.

So following the law is not needed for national defense?

The law the US president is bound to is the US constitution. Are you suggesting he wouldn't abide by the constitution?
 
The law the US president is bound to is the US constitution. Are you suggesting he wouldn't abide by the constitution?
He would abide with a version 200 years out of date that contained some glaring issues that have since been rectified.
 
Well, you know who else ignored established precedent in a democraticaly elected office to suit his own political prefrences?
Roosevelt, Roosevelt II, Truman, Eisenhower, Nixon, Bush, Jackson, Jefferson, Lincoln..I'm just naming the ones I can think of specific examples of.
 
Here's what Article II Section II of the US constitution has to say about presidential pardons, which I can guarantee you is the only thing Ron Paul would consider if he were to be president:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

Plus he can commute the sentences if he wants, like Bush did for Ramos and Compean.

And if he issues the pardons, who has standing to challenge it? His own Justice Department can't because they answer to him.
 
That in order to ensure peace, the U.S. must maintain hegemony, and must frequently exercise that force in order to maintain it.

The threat of being destroyed is a good reason for not starting a war. There is a reason why the Cold War was just cold and never went hot, since there was too much at stake if war happened. The threat of war is a great deterrent to war.
 
Why do you think that? His proposed plan has absolutely no cuts to either program:
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ron-paul-plan-to-restore-america/

Because House republicans already want to privatize social security and medicare. Since President Paul would ( I asumme) think those two programs are unconstitutional anyway, do you think he would stop them? I imagine there would be some sort of horse trading on that to give Paul something else, since Congress ain't going along with anything else he wants.
 
That in order to ensure peace, the U.S. must maintain hegemony, and must frequently exercise that force in order to maintain it.


You prefer a chaos of everyone attacking everyone at the drop of a hat?
 
Yeah, like those brown people in Serbia... oh, wait... nevermind...
There's a fairly strong argument for saying that non-Anglicised Slavs are not "white white" in the North American reckoning, and if that's so then this only constitutes a superficial contradiction to the observed trend.

You prefer a chaos of everyone attacking everyone at the drop of a hat?
How has the vigorous effort on the part of the United States to demonstrate its impotence against sustained insurgency resolved that threat, exactly?
 
You prefer a chaos of everyone attacking everyone at the drop of a hat?

It's not peace, if you keep having to go to war.
 
There's a fairly strong argument for saying that non-Anglicised Slavs are not "white white" in the North American reckoning, and if that's so then this only constitutes a superficial contradiction to the observed trend.
Wow... just wow...
This is one of the most stupid things I have read on the internet in a long time.

Surely even you'll agree that those Serbian Christians, although they are Orthodox, are more "white white" than Bosnian Muslims even to the most ignorant of Americans...

I really can't believe you just argued that we bombed a nation because we don't view them as white white... as if our politicians are so backward that they really view eastern europeans as "untermensch" or something. This is completely out of touch of you...
 
Wow... just wow...
This is one of the most stupid things I have read on the internet in a long time.

Surely even you'll agree that those Serbian Christians, although they are Orthodox, are more "white white" than Bosnian Muslims even to the most ignorant of Americans...

I really can't believe you just argued that we bombed a nation because we don't view them as white white... as if our politicians are so backward that they really view eastern europeans as "untermensch" or something. This is completely out of touch of you...
You just interpret things however you feel like, don't you? :crazyeye:
 
How has the vigorous effort on the part of the United States to demonstrate its impotence against sustained insurgency resolved that threat, exactly?


I never said we were always right. But, that said, how many major nation on nation wars have been going on? Did the Soviets overrun Western Europe? I'm certainly not going to claim that it is perfect. But I would really hate to see the alternative.
 
Surely even you'll agree that those Serbian Christians, although they are Orthodox, are more "white white" than Bosnian Muslims even to the most ignorant of Americans...
Being a Christian makes you white now? I don't even know where to begin ...
 
Being a Christian makes you white now? I don't even know where to begin ...
I didn't say that.
I was simply pointing out that those Americans who would consider bombing "brown people" would certainly prefer Serbian Christians (that we bombed) over Bosnian Muslims (who we were assisting)...

The point being, traitorfish's idea that bombing Serbs equalled bombing brown people in those ignorant Americans...

There was a prejudice against southern in eastern europeans in America about 100 years ago (leading to immigration quotas, etc). We are WELL past that point today (though we still, logically, have immigration quotas... those quotas aren't based on not wanting east & southern europeans to immigrate, it is done on a nation by nation basis).
 
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