Adventures of the Vietnamese (III)

[12tn2]

Anyway, it's still pretty likely that the AIs are cheating in this map. First you saw how Tokugawa 'bribed' the mapmaker to reserve a bunch of delicious land for him Now, by the time Le Loi knows about the settling rule, Caesar is considered to have been cheating with it Those who play unfair can't be tolerated, and the Romans need to pay for their fault!! In 560AD, the first punishment war against the cheaters is started!!!

That is just the last event in the last 75 eventful years. At first, Le Loi saw an opportunity to trade for Horseback riding with Alexander, so he offered Calendar to get it along with 40 gold. Then Tacitus (eh? Who is this guy? ) completed his greatest work, the most powerful civilization of the world. Guess who's on top? Yeah, to no surprise, it's the Vietnamese with their war machine on the go. Just below us on the table is Hatshepsut (and Montezuma is rated as a 'puny' one), so the Aztecs - Egyptian war would be a wasted effort by Monty. But more astonishingly, Caesar is on the third place, so the coming war is quite a big clash to observe After Tacitus' analyzing, Cyrus came up and ask Le Loi to join his effort to fight the Greek. Since Alex was rated as 'pathetic' just before, our leader agreed and start a phoney war, despite the fact the we have just traded things with him not long ago It's just no harm, and the Vietnamese of course can gain some precious positive points in the relation with the Persian – now we're at Friendly – yay!! Subsequently, Montezuma himself came before Le Loi asking for war assistance – no way! And suddenly Isabella knocked our door for Alphabet – hmm, better learn to write yourself, lady. Phew! Now back to the war, you can see for yourselves the forces from both sides. Hope the city will fall soon...

 

[Lord_Herobrine]

Nice! Now you will tear apart the continent, civ by civ.

Neapolis itself isn't a very great city, besides the marble resource that the city is built on. It will likely only serve purpose as a port-city. It may get that fish resource, but I think that might be within St. Petersburgs BFC.

Also, how do you get the camera to zoom in and turn diagonally like that? I know it does that for combat and wonders, but I cant figure it out.

 

[12tn2]

Neapolis itself isn't a very great city, besides the marble resource that the city is built on. It will likely only serve purpose as a port-city. It may get that fish resource, but I think that might be within St. Petersburgs BFC.

Yeah that's why there was a settler on the edge of the last pic, if you haven't noticed him Founding one tile east of Neapolis is the way to go!

Also, how do you get the camera to zoom in and turn diagonally like that? I know it does that for combat and wonders, but I cant figure it out.

Guess you have known the zoom in part. For diagonal view, press Ctrl + left arrow / right arrow and you'll get it done
Let me update the news from our east battlefront. Between turns, the Roman leader moved his two axemen out of Neapolis, toward our waiting settler. Greedy and stupid Caesar This was good for us, and no surprise, since Le Loi has seen this couple moving around in the last hundreds of years, and their role is of course not defending. Then their forces have been split, our leader is easier in choosing the attacking individuals. The No lien chau didn't get a good odds versus the guarding archers, but was very effective when Le Loi ordered him to kill the first axe Then one of our elephant finish the remaining, damaged axeman. With the concern of being retaliated removed, the Vietnamese sword charged forward and killed the first archer with ease. And finally our last elephant stepped up, trampling both the last defender and the city he was protecting. Neapolis was razed to the ground! Immediately after that, our settler rushed east and would be ready for a new, better city next turn.
Meanwhile, Cumae is also under siege from a bunch of Vietnamese troops:

Our battalion of four Accuracy catapults have reduced the city's defense bonus to 0% already. Between turns, a Roman axe came out from his defensive position to attack our Combat 1 axeman – and lucky for Caesar, his unit succeed despite the lower odds However, the Roman guy was severely wounded, making himself a good xp source for our army Aside from him, Cumae has two other archers and a spearman, all of them haven't acquired a single promotion. On the opposite, the Vietnamese have three ready-to-promote units to use, and the swordsman you see is packed with some decent City raider techniques Our spear also don't have to fear of any counter – he can eat Caesar's axeman for breakfast! Now it looks like the battle will be decided soon...

 

[12tn2]

As we said, the fights at Cumae ended pretty quickly. Le Loi didn't have too many options for each of his attacks, but his army were seasoned enough to decide the battles. At first a Vietnamese catapult, promoted with City raider, initiated the assault, killing the first defending archer while still bombarding all the forces inside that wall. What a wonderful start! After that everything went according to plan. A swordsman hacked another archer out of his way, leaving the remaining melee units vulnerable to our No lien chau's rain of arrows. As a result, the Roman spearman lost his life; and at last the Vietnamese troops entered the city after defeating the nearly dead axeman left. But Le Loi didn't stay there any longer, for he has ordered Cumae to be burned, leaving the ground for a better placed city.
From there, our army didn't waste time marching toward Rome. While the Accuracy battalion of catapults did their usual one-turn jobs, some others were healing rapidly for the upcoming battles. And when they did arrived, Ceasar's palace in his capital is finally facing its doom:

The Roman had six defenders in the city just moments ago: three archers and three spear (no axes? Really, Caesar? Too confident of the coming of your Praetorians, eh? ) And, you can see for yourselves how easily a capital can fall without a proper counter force. Le Loi was really judicious he left his two elephants for the eastern battlefront and take some No lien chau and axemen with him Still, the battle results are even better than expected – the Vietnamese don't lose a single match at high odds (thought it happens quite frequently when we face the AIs, doesn't it? ). One more win and Rome will be ours!!

 

[12tn2]

What has to happen happened, the citadel of Rome fell in 635AD. Wanted to save some unhurt catapults for the siege of Antium, Le Loi ordered our only spearman to destroy the opponent spear – and their capital is ours! However, bad news came right after the event. It turned out that Caesar had another spearman (what? Four of them and no axemen? This guy definitely has quite some hatred for axes ) right next to the newly captured city. Since the Vietnamese had only a wounded spear in Rome at that moment (and the best counter unit is both injured and spent all his movement two tiles away), Le Loi had to use a cat to finish up the remnant of the Roman force. At least the odd was in favor of us – but ouch! The catapult lost!! So another cat was needed to do the job (sigh ). At this rate the Vietnamese might not be able to conquer Antium before Hatshepsut. Oh, did I tell you about it? But Le Loi has succeeded in persuading the Egyptian leader to join the war right when it started. After some turns, the mutual military struggle was enough to pump our relationship to friendly – yay! Now we will have another trade partner aside from the Persian (they are now pretty backward due to the lost of Pasargadae – hmm, should we call their leader Cyrus the notsogreatanymore? ). However, the downside of this dogpile war is that right now Le Loi can see at least a horse archer lurking right next to the Roman city. Let's hope Caesar has some spare spear there... but arrg! Next turn their new capital is razed to the ground! So the Vietnamese has to focus on this newer one:

Yeah, it's very handy having a galley wandering around. We unloaded two catapults last turn, but it seems that the amphibious attacks is better – thus the result you can see...

 

[12tn2]

Then that Caesar has been exiled to a single tiny island far in the south western sea, Le Loi made peace with him. Bon voyage, my little friend Too bad you can't bring any Praetorians along in this hopeless trip Then our leader's attention turn onto Alexander and his land, squeezed between two creative ones:

It could have been squeezed harder if Pasargadae had still been out there. Thanks to its destruction, now Sparta can use the wheat to pump its population up to 7 – quite an impressive number. All the gold sources around the city are mined alright, but Alex is unwilling to sell us any. Wanna keep all the gold for yourself, eh? That's very greedy and you know, Le Loi doesn't like to be treated that badly While showing his lust for that precious shiny metal, the Greek leader seems to be abandoning another: the iron tile in dispute with the Persian culture is not mined at all. We don't know if it's because Alexander is a weirdo, or Cyrus did pillage the resource, but in the latter case our good friend has done quite a decent job: the marble tile right next to Sparta is not having a quarry on, either. So, on land the Greek leader might not be the one to blame, but how about the sea? To our big shock, ALL the FIVE food and happiness resources near Athens are not being used at all!!! Omg, is this guy a vegetarian? A PETA crazy member? Or simply Hinduism followers don't kill? Bah, that's nonsense, because the Vietnamese are right now having beef and clams for their meals. Moreover, Alex himself is waging a war against the Persian, hoping to calm down his bloodthirstiness. Thus, there's no reasons other than big time stupidity when we try to explain this kind of thing. You may not know, but there's another city in the ice to prove it...

 

[DC123456789]

Nobody ever said the AI was smart.

 

[12tn2]

It's Alexander the great, mind you And pssst, he himself doesn't know he's not a smart guy

 

[strijder20]

Alex himself is waging a war against the Persian

I know that from somewhere.

 

[Daedwartin]

I know that from somewhere.

Its called real life. just he did much better there than in this game. mainly he conquered the entire damn empire. and then some.

 

[Lord_Herobrine]

Its called real life. just he did much better there than in this game. mainly he conquered the entire damn empire. and then some.

Yep, didn't he even make it as far as Egypt? Anyway, Alex should take a history lesson on himself and turn the war around. Although, Civ IV Alex has no cliff-edge trail called Thermopolae (Forgive my spelling) and armor made of bronze.

 

[12tn2]

I know that from somewhere.

Well, that means this game is pretty accurate, right? Though, not 100% accuracy

just he did much better there than in this game.

Not quite right. Before conquering Persian, Alexander's country is somewhat small, like in this match. And now his campaign against Dari... uhm, Cyrus, is not over yet. Who knows, this guy may reconstitute a big big empire just like in the past

Alex should take a history lesson on himself and turn the war around.

Well, that is a thorny psychological task for Alex. Learning of another 'self' in the past is really shocking and may cause him to produce some kind of errors, then terminate himself in an infinite loop

Although, Civ IV Alex has no cliff-edge trail called Thermopolae (Forgive my spelling) and armor made of bronze.

Hey, there IS one Thermopylae here!! There are cliffs (hills around it), there are impassable trails (three tile of, well, ice ) which may make the way to the city too dangerous So, Le Loi decided to save it for the last push

 

[Lord_Herobrine]

Really? Alex should make his last stand against Persia there (how fitting ).

I command you to plunder Sparta for its gold, and Athens for its Crabs! Yes, this is the ONLY time you will ever want crabs.

 

[12tn2]

to plunder Sparta for its gold, and Athens for its Crabs! Yes, this is the ONLY time you will ever want crabs.

Sure, the Spartan are worth being killed, but for their gold and not their Gold (you'll see) And after that we should definitely steal the Athenians some crabs

Alex should make his last stand against Persia there (how fitting).

That's unlikely He has a high chance of facing the Vietnamese leader during his last stand. Le Loi will prove he's greater than both Alexander and Cyrus combined
In 875AD, Le Loi waged another war against the Greek: “Your refusal of trading with us will make you regret, Alexander”. Using a Persian controlled tile as the springboard, the Vietnamese army approaches their first target, the city of Sparta:

Uh oh, pretty decent defense, considering the Greek's place on the scoreboard. No matter what, our Accuracy catapult battalion does their accurate and usual job: removing the walls of that settlement in one turn. From that point, the Vietnamese troops consist of two elephants, two macemen, a sword, a No lien chau, a City raider 2 cat, two axes and a spearman. What a combination! Oh, those are not to mention a horse archer two tile away – we've just connected the horses about two hundred years ago, thanks to the expansion of Moscow's culture The opposing forces are three archers, a catapult and an axeman. That's eleven versus five, and the experience from the previous wars will ensure Le Loi of his victory
So, without delay, the attack begins! For the first battle, our leader chose a war elephant in the hope it would trample an archer to death with ease (nearly 95%, that's what the number said). And we lost! Argh! Then if the 'phant couldn't do it, the maces would go instead. And yes, we won the first fight (though it was very very close)! After that another elephant did a good revenge for his fellow, killing the last unwounded archer. Now with the axeman exposed, the Vietnamese No lien chau took care of him well. Our swordsman finished the last archer, and for the last move against a cat Le Loi used our very first horse archer for the task. It was a win, and Sparta is – you guessed it wrong – razed to the ground!!

 

[Lord_Herobrine]

Razed to the ground?!

 

[12tn2]

Razed to the ground?!

Yes, razed to the ground. Its position had many disadvantages. One of them is about the food. If Le Loi had kept Sparta, the Vietnamese would have had no way to chain the farms for the wheat resource (actually, there is a solution, but we'll have to farm the marble tile. Substandard, right? ) Another is about the Gold. Grabbing all four is not necessary at all, especially when all of them are on desert hill. Two are efficient enough for the Vietnamese: to use one and to trade one. There are more, but overall you can be assured that one tile south east of the former city is a better site for settlement
With the burning of Sparta, the road to Athens was then open. Taking all who were unhurt with him, Le Loi headed toward the Greek capital. After the process of surrounding the city is completed, this is what it looks like before the fights take place:

As you can see, there is a total of six archers in Athens atm. Not very impressive, but we have to point out that this city had a bunch of units just some dozens of years ago. There were at least a renowned phalanx, a swordsman and five more archer lurking there, but Alexander the great tactician wanted to take a revenge for Sparta and its people by threatening our newly founded city - Cantho - right next to its ruins, so he ordered nearly all of them to bail out. Between turns, our maceman killed the defending phalanx, and our sword defeated a moving archer, that's why now they're all wounded. However, those alone were not enough to stop Alex's crazy ambition, he proceeded down south and wasted all his troops but one on our horse archer (you can see a Greek flag, covered by the interface, on the very bottom of the picture – that tile is where the Vietnamese single unit fought so bravely against the opponent four. As if he felt unsatisfied, Alexander sent another archer toward Le Loi's cities – see him on the left side?
Well, but those puny troops will be wiped out for good once Athens' walls are down and the logistics hindering cyan culture is not there anymore. Our leader has six (plus four accuracy cats, who will be ready to join the battles at any moment) units, among them two can cause collateral damage. So it's 1v1. With no hesitance, Le Loi orders the all-out attack. And guess what? The gods are no longer on the Greek side – we win all six fights at high odds!! Athens is ours now!

 

[MedicInDisquise]

Vietnam reaches from one coast to another! MANIFEST DESTINY!

 

[Daedwartin]

vietnam reaches from one coast to another! Manifest destiny!

wrong. It is the destiny of vietnam to rule the world.

 

[Lord_Herobrine]

wrong. It is the destiny of vietnam to rule the world.

Wrong again. It is the destiny of vietnam to rule the universe.

 

[Daedwartin]

Wrong again. It is the destiny of vietnam to rule the universe.

No, everything. Including the very universe we live in...how would that work?