Adventures of the Vietnamese (III)

[12tn2]

With the fall of Peter, there are now only ten civilizations left on the relation screen. But we can still see the “not fit at all” Russian color on the graphs – take culture for example:

Ah, a deep drop to zero of the orange line – that's when Moscow was captured. In its dying gasps the Russian culture tried to crawl a wee bit up, only to be suppressed the second and last time by our forces. Hadn't Le Loi done that, Peter would have been in the same league with Caesar, Tokugawa and Mao. These guys have done about nothing to their people's culture – how mean and dictatorial they are!
Possessing at least as twice the amount of culture as the above leaders, Montezuma and Le Loi have been competing for the sixth place. At first, the Vietnamese got the advantage by having two obelisks on early. The Aztecs was not bad, either, with at least one building of that kind. Then Monty finished the Stonehenge and nearly caught up with us, until we ourselves built our own wonder, the Pyramids. After that the race was so tight there was almost no space between the pink and green lines. Then the Vietnamese accelerated (maybe because of our Academy?), but were once again delayed by two consecutive anarchy turns, but luckily Le Loi hasn't lost his lead yet.
Flying high on the graph are the religions founders and creative ones. The Greek, French and Persian lines are pretty stable. So does the Spanish, they keeps the distance as a result of founding Buddhism so early. In the case of Hatty, her creative culture is really booming with the aid from the Oracle...

 

[Daedwartin]

And so, 30 some odd religions descend down on the Imperial Republic of Vietiam, wrapped in the package called Hinduism. (Hinduism has quite a few gods in it. and they all act as if they are their own religion, just they get together very well.)

 

[Lord_Herobrine]

Oh hey, congrats on climbing the scoreboard to the middle!

Do you think its possible to scout out the romans more? Once Praets are out of the question for war, it could serve as a valuable backbone to support a war against Louis. AND, you wouldnt be threatened on both sides.

EDIT: Whoops, didnt see that the bulk of rome is southwest...

 

[12tn2]

And so, 30 some odd religions descend down on the Imperial Republic of Vietiam, wrapped in the package called Hinduism.

Well, I forgot to tell you all that finally the Vietnamese has adopted a religion. Luckily, it's the same as the Persian's, so we didn't waste much time converting into it. The two turns of anarchy you can see of our culture line is actually for that religion change and also the civic of Organized religion. In fact, Le Loi did wait some turns in order to open border with Isabella beforehand. The Spanish leader would be annoyed with us and refuse to sign if she knew we're Hinduism followers in the first place

Hinduism has quite a few gods in it. and they all act as if they are their own religion, just they get together very well.

Ooh, quite interesting. So in fact a Hinduist can follow three, or eight gods, all at his will?

Do you think its possible to scout out the romans more? Once Praets are out of the question for war, it could serve as a valuable backbone to support a war against Louis. AND, you wouldnt be threatened on both sides.
EDIT: Whoops, didnt see that the bulk of rome is southwest...

Haha, they can reach really far, eh Anyway, that idea is pretty out of options, since we're not sharing the same religion with the Romans. Only in case Cyrus chooses to make Buddha his idol, maybe...

 

[Daedwartin]

Well, still: be careful. Praets WILL tear your military to sherds for a long time. maceman would have a tough time against a properly-promoted Praet. which brings us back to thanking the fact this is SP, where only stupid AI live. MP, you can guarantee a 80% chance of properly promted Praets. and empires worthy of the name of rome being made by them.


In general, your a Vietnamese Amestris, just alchemy doesn't exist as this isn't the full-metal alchemist universe. You really honestly don't trust anyone, feel threatened by everyone. And view military expansion as the only option.

 

[12tn2]

Well, still: be careful. Praets WILL tear your military to sherds for a long time. maceman would have a tough time against a properly-promoted Praet. which brings us back to thanking the fact this is SP, where only stupid AI live. MP, you can guarantee a 80% chance of properly promted Praets. and empires worthy of the name of rome being made by them.

Well, still: it's lucky we're playing SP In MP, if someone lost his only source of metal in a settling race he'll be dead by now

In general, your a Vietnamese Amestris, just alchemy doesn't exist as this isn't the full-metal alchemist universe. You really honestly don't trust anyone, feel threatened by everyone. And view military expansion as the only option.

If everyone being obsessed with military expansion was Amestrian then they would be able contribute up to half of this forum's population, I suppose On the other hand, the Vietnamese has access to the sea, and they have not experience a single civil war yet!
Now it's time to reveal our next victim: no other than Lou the swollen-headed. He's going to pay for his consecutive demands (by now there were at least four on us, like gimme something, stop trading with Cyrus, blah blah...), no doubt about it. So let's take a look at the map of France and see if we can put forward some decent tactics or not:

From the map, you all can clearly see that Louis has chosen to take Peter's very way of destruction: stretching his empire so far and so thin in order to block the Vietnamese By doing that, the French leader again proved his stupidity strategically with rubbish city placement. Last time Le Loi has been surprised by this fool's action of settling Orleans, his second city in the middle of a barren land while avoiding the floodplains just left of his capital. Now our leader's astonished level is taken to a higher grade upon seeing Lyon and Rheims. The French third settlement is even in a worse land than Orleans – will it ever reach size 4?? Sure, it brings Lou some happiness – a lot of happiness, if he uses the resources properly – and horses to ride, but still He doesn't even has Horseback riding yet! Now for the case of Rheims, it has access to the sea and can provide France with the whale – but wait, Louis again needs to research Optics beforehand, and that particular tech is nowhere in sight of the near and maybe medium future In fact, that city should be the one of the last ones Le Loi would like to found, in case he exclusively had all this continent to settle alone.
But on the other hand, we have to admit that Paris is a powerful city – it has topped the charts for millenniums. And it's still an unknown to the Vietnamese...

 

[hoplitejoe]

Get some of that sweet sweet gold.

 

[Daedwartin]

Expand, Imperial Republic of Veitnam!. We can trust NO ONE. we must expand to protect ourselves!. The French have insulted us and attempted to weaken us enough!.

P.S. BUILD Spys i dont think y=they need OP to enter neutral territory.

 

[12tn2]

Get some of that sweet sweet gold.

If only we can The culture of Susa is so strong

Expand, Imperial Republic of Veitnam!. We can trust NO ONE. we must expand to protect ourselves!. The French have insulted us and attempted to weaken us enough!.

Yes! Lou is going to pay

BUILD Spys i dont think y=they need OP to enter neutral territory.

But we need Scotland yard first This is Vanilla, remember?
In 50AD, Louis proved to be a true warmonger by declaring war, once again with Cyrus. How convenient! The Vietnamese are preparing to punish the French leader for his stupid and greedy demands, and now we can even help the Persian – our potential ally – in the very same effort! Moreover, that fourth war of the world will definitely be more fierce than the last phoney one, thus Lou must concentrate a considerable amount of his forces into the Persian front, hence neglecting our side. Not wasting the precious time, in 80AD, our first and main stack of troops has been gathered right near the border of the French cities. The next turn, Le Loi ordered an quick assault, as the Vietnamese army crossed the border. Guess which city would be our leader's first target?

The answer is Orleans. Not only because of its position near our land, but capturing or destroying this settlement will also cut France into two halves, separated by – well, guess nothing is worse than it – the Persian and Vietnamese land, the enemies of them. Le Loi don't know whether Louis has horses in his capital BFC or not, but in case he doesn't, then the French leader will very likely not be able to produce any others, since the trade route is severed. They still have the copper, though, and Orleans last turn actually had an axeman guarding it. In between the turns, one good and one shocking news arrived. The lucky news is that Lou has chosen for his defending axeman to come out of the city and attack our army – and failed (Le Loi has to admit, it was merely bad dice roll for him, the odd was 50%). The shocking news is, Pasargadae the Persian 'pink spot' city was captured! Omg where are your troops, my friend Cyrus??

 

[Lord_Herobrine]

Omg were are your troops, my friend Cyrus??

In the frozen wastes of the Northeast, throwing themselves at the almost useless cities of Lyons and Rhiems. Ahh, dont you love AI war tactics?

 

[12tn2]

In the frozen wastes of the Northeast, throwing themselves at the almost useless cities of Lyons and Rhiems. Ahh, dont you love AI war tactics?

Now should he called Cyrus the great *****?
So we're talking about the siege of Orleans. Le Loi had three swordsmen, four catapults, one spear and two axemen (one wounded, but still could do the cleanup work well enough ). There's still 16% of defense bonus left, but our leader, who always wants fast battles and saw that the chances were clearly leaned toward us, order a full charge. The first sword failed despite a high odd. Then another swordsman was chosen to do the second attempt against a spearman. Success! At that time the French chariot was exposed to our spear, and the third battle's outcome was as predicted – Le Loi's spearman didn't even lose a drop of sweat! After that a Vietnamese axe came forward to kill the severely injured archer left, but oops! At 100% he still got hit by an arrow Anyway, Louis' forces were annihilated and Orleans was immediately razed to the ground. Yay! Take that, Lou!
As our wounded units are resting after the siege and the reinforcements are coming sporadically, our uninjured guys divided into two ways: the cats move toward Paris, while a sword heads for Pasargadae. There he encountered a French axeman guarding a rioting city with less than half of his hit-points:

Charge!! And the city's ours now! But what to do now?? Keep it? No, it'll be squeezed by two powerful cultures (if not already ). Return to Cyrus? It's unlikely this settlement will stand a chance against Louis' axe and archer, who are just next to the city waiting for retaliation. So Le Loi decides to burn Pasargadae – and the Vietnamese immediately get -2 from 'razing our city' from the Persian leader BARRG!! What a no-win situation we have to face!

 

[hoplitejoe]

Burn eeet

 

[Lord_Herobrine]

Ouch, "Razing our city" is one of the ones that never goes away, right? It's silly that you would still get the diplo hit when it wasnt their city anymore. Maybe because it was still in riot from when the French took it and still counted as a Persian city.

In other words, "BURN, BABY BURN!!!"

Also, look at how much gold Sparta has!! Their Spartan shields will now be built out of pure gold, and not bronze, leather and wood.

 

[Daedwartin]

Also, look at how much gold Sparta has!! Their Spartan shields will now be built out of pure gold, and not bronze, leather and wood.

And as a result...they have the weakest quality sheilds on earth. gold does not make good armor as it is very soft compared to bronze, leather AND wood.

 

[Lord_Herobrine]

And as a result...they have the weakest quality sheilds on earth. gold does not make good armor as it is very soft compared to bronze, leather AND wood.

This is true, but it does not factor in the Epicness of golden armor and shields. (just go with it)

 

[Daedwartin]

This is true, but it does not factor in the Epicness of golden armor and shields. (just go with it)

Yea-no. PRAETS ATTACK!

 

[Lord_Herobrine]

Yea-no. PRAETS ATTACK!

TIME-TRAVELING ICBM's ATTACK! (From the future ICBM's)

 

[Daedwartin]

time-traveling icbm's attack! (from the future icbm's)

TIME TRAVELING SDI DEFEND...and get all of them this time

 

[Lord_Herobrine]

TIME-TRAVELING SUPER SPIES WITH TACTICAL NUKE BRIEFCASES... and no you cant have spies in your cities already to counteract them, they are already there and infilitrated

 

[12tn2]

Ouch, "Razing our city" is one of the ones that never goes away, right? It's silly that you would still get the diplo hit when it wasnt their city anymore. Maybe because it was still in riot from when the French took it and still counted as a Persian city.

Really? It'll never go away? Arrggg, tough time with Cyrus from now...

And as a result...they have the weakest quality sheilds on earth. gold does not make good armor as it is very soft compared to bronze, leather AND wood.

Not that weak in some games Like in a MMORPG, everyone will want a shield like that - somehow a golden item always reflect high level