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[Ordnael]

Can't read anything about ST beyond voyager timeline

 

[Arakhor]

The Section 31 thing probably won't be very good, even by my standards, but it's got Michelle Yeoh in it, presumably camping it up as the pseudo-villain, so it'll probably still be worth watching.

 

[Kyriakos]

While I don't have 3hrs and 47 mins to watch sadly I liked her intro and I suspect she'll roll through all the stuff that drove me nuts about the 'Patrick Stewart Goes to Space' sequel series.

Also I think I never got around to posting my review of the final season 3 here and now it's too late as it's been a year or so and I've forgotten everything lol. So I'll just say that I actually really enjoyed the final 3rd season even if it did have a few the usual NuTrek plot holes and 'let's instantly warp around the quadrant' moments lol. The presentation was excellent, nostalgic and it gave that happy ending I wanted so bad for my heroes of old (and omg I wanna work at Geordie's ship museum haha).

For S3 (and how it relates to S1,2), she shares a three-sentence synopsis of her view, so you can if you wish hear that at 2.51.25.

 

[Patine]

Can't read anything about ST beyond voyager timeline

I, myself, never understood the reason for the Abrams'-instigated Alternate Timeline. It's clumsy, sloppy, wonky, and seems to add nothing to, but only detract from, the franchise as a whole.

 

[Ordnael]

I, myself, never understood the reason for the Abrams'-instigated Alternate Timeline. It's clumsy, sloppy, wonky, and seems to add nothing to, but only detract from, the franchise as a whole.

Just to clarify what I wrote, it's not like I don't believe there is anything else beyond voyager timeline worth watching it's just because I haven't gotten around to go beyond that timeline, so I avoid reading about shows I haven't seen yet.
I find the Kelvin-timeline movies are interesting, there are some really great performances inspired by the original trio, the 2009 movie is the best of that bunch.

 

[Patine]

Just to clarify what I wrote, it's not like I don't believe there is anything else beyond voyager timeline worth watching it's just because I haven't gotten around to go beyond that timeline, so I avoid reading about shows I haven't seen yet.
I find the Kelvin-timeline movies are interesting, there are some really great performances inspired by the original trio, the 2009 movie is the best of that bunch.

I don't know. Quinto seemed like a very questionable actor for Spock, in my opinion, or any Vulcan. He might have made a better Romulan. Pine did have a similar in-your-face, campy, ignore-the-book-when-it-gets-in-the-way vivo to Shatner in the '60's, but Pine seemed more off-putting, and dialed up too much.

 

[Ordnael]

I don't know. Quinto seemed like a very questionable actor for Spock, in my opinion, or any Vulcan. He might have made a better Romulan. Pine did have a similar in-your-face, campy, ignore-the-book-when-it-gets-in-the-way vivo to Shatner in the '60's, but Pine seemed more off-putting, and dialed up too much.

I loved Quinto's rendition of Spock, more visceral yes, more defiant yes...
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...ok it might be a tad more different than actual Spock, but since that Nimoy was in the movies I guess it made even more sense not to have an absolute copy!
Pine might have done a great job at playing a Kirk instead of a Shatner...Let's face it! Star Trek series Kirk is great fun entertainment, but The Cage's Pike behaves more like a serious captain than 60's Jame TShatner Kirk. And it's fine I enjoy Shatner, my favourite ST Movie is The Voyage Home...I like more a side of fun with my ST than over analytical episodes about morals and serious (akin to real life) stuff with a tiny side of sci-fi ST (one of my gripes with DS9)...that being said The Motion Picture is the perfect ST Movie for me, lots of sci-fi, some fun, some grim, some morals!

I saw the Kelvin-timeline movies before I ever got around to properly watch Star Trek from the beginning and the performance that stood out for me back then was Karl's Bones, after watching original the ST his performance is even more fun the second time you watch those movies!

 

[Arakhor]

I'm with you in thinking that my favourite TOS film is The Voyage Home. I prefer First Contact as my overall favourite though.

 

[Ordnael]

First Contact is the best TNG movie no doubt...and it's disappointing that I find the other TNG movies so subpar compared the TOS films (V excepted ofc) or even the Kelvin-timeline ones. Patrick Stewart is no action type actor, specially not at that age, although to be fair those action scenes seem also very poorly written/choreographed. And then they have the new emotion chipped Datawho just feels too goofy for my taste compared to TNG Data to take his role seriously!

 

[warpus]

lol she talks about this for ALMOST FOUR HOURS??

Aren't our collective attention spans at an all time low these days? Can I get this video essay in the form of a 1 paragraph long summary?

Does anyone actually watch videos like that in full? Who is this video for?

 

[Kyriakos]

lol she talks about this for ALMOST FOUR HOURS??

Aren't our collective attention spans at an all time low these days? Can I get this video essay in the form of a 1 paragraph long summary?

Does anyone actually watch videos like that in full? Who is this video for?

1 paragraph sentence summary: The new series was trash.
I watched a bit of it (likely south of an hour, parts here and there), and it has sections so you can easily find whatever you might be interested in. It was on the background, I just like her videos. Note: this in no way is a video about physics, nor are physics really used at all in it (well, extrapolating from the part I watched, and inferring from titles of segments).
One about Feynman's myth is certainly more interesting; for example I wasn't aware that he didn't write any of the books which were marketed as 'autobiographies'.

 

[Blake00]

I'm with you in thinking that my favourite TOS film is The Voyage Home. I prefer First Contact as my overall favourite though.

Same.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

We named our cat after Merlin (the TV version), even though I don't really like the way they re-interpreted the story by making Arthur into an oaf and Merlin into what Arthur should have been. Though I did appreciate the appearance of Glastonbury Tor at the end.

However, Malory's Merlin is an absolutely appalling character who spends most of his time either engineering pointless displays of his cleverness or egging Arthur into committing mass murder. Fortunately he gets written out of the story at a pretty early stage.

I'm failing to see a Star Trek connection.

But here's one: There are some cute Merlin fanfics that are basically Merlin set in the Star Trek universe, with the U.S.S. Camelot, with Captain Arthur Pendragon:

I wish whoever did this bit of fan art had included the knights. I could see Gwaine and Percival as Navigation/Helm, Elyan as Chief Engineer, Leon as the Transporter Chief, and I'm not quite sure where to put Lancelot (shame on the series for only having him in 6 episodes). Or maybe make Leon the Security Chief and Lancelot the Transporter Chief?

And I'd totally let Merlin keep Aithusa on board. If Archer could have a beagle, Merlin can have a white dragon.

Arthur's character growth was basically like the average episode of Voyager in which something momentous happens during the episode: He's reset to default by the beginning of the next episode. He doesn't seem to learn anything from his experiences.

I'm with you in thinking that my favourite TOS film is The Voyage Home. I prefer First Contact as my overall favourite though.

The only part of First Contact I liked was Lily. And I suppose I should concede that First Contact provided a decent hook for one of the best Enterprise episodes (the Mirror Universe one).

 

[Ordnael]

So the last episode of Lower Decks just made everyone in the fandom a solid one.

Star Trek Just Erased An Entire Series From Canon

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I'm still interested in watching Discovery at some point, but I was about to star watching Lower Decks from beginning to end in about a month and now I am not sure I should be doing that before giving Discovery a watch.
Does LowerDecks goes beyond Picard timeline? I was about to watch Picard after Lower Decks.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Whether or not it's a valid argument, I'm all for anything that can erase that abomination from canon. Actually, I'd be very pleased if both DiscoTrek and Picard were de-canonized.

Not that I really consider them canon in the first place.