Altered Maps VII: Making the World a Better Place

[Squonk]

The whole point is to create a system in which smaller countries are forced learn how to cooperate more closely.

Very well, very well, but there's no way this is going to work. If

Oh Christ, no, not her A teen pop-star pretending to be Polish because it's cool, sort of. You know, Eva is just meh, but Ewa... way cooler for the Czech internet generation kids with their peculiar spelling habits

She comes from a traditionally polish area, speaks polish, has a polish surname, and claims to be polish. I can't think of any idea why she shouldn't be polish.

Anyway, it's the other way round: all the people almost up to Olomluniec, and at least up to Ostrawa, only pretend to be czech

 

[choxorn]

EU has roughly 500 people,

You seem to be missing a few Zeroes.

 

[Squonk]

anyway, here goes.

I thought it would be interesting to see surnames in Poland which indicate foreign origin.

Swedes

Spoiler :

-Szwed "a Swede" (a very popular name. Perhaps it indicates protestant religion, associated with Sweden?)

Lithuanians

Spoiler :

-Litwin "a Lithuanian"

Ruthenians/Russians/Ukrainians/Belarusians (they weren't distinguished until recently)

Spoiler :

- Rusek - a diminutive for a "Ruthenian" of any kind

- Rusin "a Ruthenian"

- Rus old-fashioned for "a Ruthenian"

- Ruski "Ruthenian", also diminutive for "Russian/Ukrainian/Belarusian"

- Ukrainiec "an Ukrainian"

- Ukraiński "Ukrainian"

- Białorus - old-fashioned for "a Belarusian"

- Białoruski "Belarusian"

Czechs

Spoiler :

- Czech "a Czech"

- Czeski "Czech"

Slovakians

Spoiler :

-Slowak

- Slowacki

although it's not sure in these cases, as "Slowak" could mean also "Slowianin", "a Slav"

Hungarians

Spoiler :

-Madziar - old-fashioned for 'a Hungarian"

- Madziarski - old-fashioned for 'Hungarian"

-Węgier - "a Hungarian"

- Węgierski - "Hungarian"

- Węgrzyn - old -fashioned for "a Hungarian"

- Węgrzyński - old-fashioned for 'Hungarian", but also could indicate someone from a village of Hungarians

Germans

Spoiler :

- Niemiec "a German"

somehow, this name is the most common in former austrian part of Poland

- Niemiecki "german"

- Deutsch, Dojcz, Dejcz, Dycz etc "german" in german

- Szwab, Schwab - "a Schwabian", or "a German"

- Szwabski - "Schwabian / German"

 

[Squonk]

the Dutch

Spoiler :

- Olęder - "a Dutch" (in a peasant dialect)

- Olender - "a Dutch" (in a peasant dialect)

- Holender - "a Dutch"

- Holderski - "Dutch"

the French

Spoiler :

- Francuz "a Frenchman"

- Walon "a man from Wallonia"

Romanians / Moldavians / Italians (all latin-speaking people had a collective name once, nowdays southern Romania is called Wallachia (Woloszczyzna), while Italy Wlochy. So Woloch is a man who comes from Wallachia (or Moldavia, which was called Wallachia earlier), while Wloch is a man who comes from Italy. But I guess it's a modern distinction

Spoiler :

- Woloch, Wołosz ("a man coming from Wallachia / Moldavia")

- Włoch ("an Italian")

- Woloski ("Wallachian/Moldavian")

Danish

Spoiler :

- Dunczyk "a Dane"

- Dunin - "a Dane" (in old-polish)

- Dunski "Danish"

Latvians

Spoiler :

- Łotysz "a Latvian"

Prussians (an extinct baltic nation)

Spoiler :

- Prus "a Prussian"

- Pruski "Prussian"

However, it may also refer to Royal (Western) Prussia, which was mostly slavic, and was originally part of Pomerania.
When it comes to Prussia as a Kingdom of Prussia, the name for its habitant is Prusak (which is also a kind of a cockroach). here it is
http://s3.amazonaws.com/12XN8SEM7ZEYVXRQQ702-maps-pl/prusak_kompletny.png

Poles

Spoiler :

- Polak "A Pole"

- Pollak "A Pole" (in a german writing)

- Palak 'A Pole" (in a ruthenian pronounciation)

- Polski "Polish"

two last ones are located mostly in formerly mixed polish-ukrainian areas

Spanish

Spoiler :

- Hiszpan "a Spaniard"

- Hiszpański "Spanish"

Scotts

Spoiler :

- Szkot "a Scottsman"

- Szkocki "Scottish"

Enlishmen

Spoiler :

- Anglik "an Englishman"

- Angielski "English"

Greeks (but it could also signify greek-catholic or orthodox religion)

Spoiler :

- Grek "a Greek"

there are a few in lower Silesia, because that's where communist Greeks fleeing Greece after ww2 were settled. However, it's also where people from Ukraine where settled.

- Grecki "Greek"

Serbs

Spoiler :

- Serb "a Serb(ian)"

Lusatians (a nearly extinct slavic nation in germany)

Spoiler :

-Łużycki "Lusatian"

 

[Squonk]

Croatians

Spoiler :

-Chorwat ("a Croatian")

- Chorwacki ("Croatian)

Bosnians

Spoiler :

-Bosniak ("a Bosnian")

- Bosniacki ("Bosnian")

Bulgarians

Spoiler :

- Bulgarski ("Bulgarian")

 

[mythmonster2]

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Hell if that ain't comprehensive.

 

[Mango Elephant]

You should probley spoil that.

 

[Zack]

For the love of all that is holy Squonk, PUT THAT IN A SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Squonk]

It's just a bad idea. So bad that I hardly need to prove it.
It would make some sense if entire Europe was a voting district, or if countries had a choice whom to team up with.

She also speaks flawless Czech,

Being a citizen of Czech Republic and attending a czech school, it's nothing surprising

comes from a town which is overwhelmingly Czech,

She is a member of luteran church which, in this region, was a very polish-patriotic organisation (unlike local catholic church, it's a local phenomenon). The village in question comes from an area in which, 90 years ago, there were less Czechs than Germans, not to mention Poles. And in which even today Poles still are present, although their number is falling systhematically.

is young, foolish, and uses her ethnic origin to appeal to Czech teen audience which loves exotic (Slovak, Polish...) influences in their crappy music.

If Poland and Slovakia (close neighbours with many historical, cultural, ethnic and linguistic ties) are exotic for you, than I really pity Czech Republic. Probably everything 10 miles outside of Prague and Brno is exotic for you.

Does anyone care? Nope.

You apparently care if a Czech citizen identifies herself as an ethnic Pole. If she is of polish descent, speaks polish and considers herself polish, why don't you let her be polish?

Damn czech imperialism

I am just telling you that when I hear a 13 year old Czech pop-star babble about her ethnic identity, I am not taking it very seriously.

She's 17, not 13. And she doesn't claim to be an Eskimo. She claims to be Polish, which is consistant with the ethnic history of the region she comes from and with her own language.

Yeah yeah yeah, all the people in countries neighbouring on Poland are Poles, they just don't know about it

I was refering to this

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Moderator Action: Everyone needs to stop arguing about the ethnicity of one particular person, this is a thread for maps.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

 

[Dachs]

So Greek Lombardi? That is an interesting mix.

Did the Lombards in this timeline become catholic, or did they become Orthadox?

There is no Great Schism at this time. Well, there is, but it's not a Catholic-Orthodox one.

 

[Winner]

Wiki map summarizing the events leading up to the story of Red Dawn

 

[Tee Kay]

What, Sakhalin is Japanese or something?

Fail.

 

[Yared]

Yay for high school students doing guerilla war?

 

[Winner]

What, Sakhalin is Japanese or something?

Fail.

Yes, I think we can speculate the author of the map was an American...

Yay for high school students doing guerilla war?

Exactly It's one of the most hilarious films I've ever seen. It's especially funny to us who know what communism was really like.

BTW, I think I am going to make a remake of this map - updated to current geopolitical trends, but sticking to the Red Dawn premise and its special attention to realism

 

[Karalysia]

Because we all know that the when the USSR invades the US the one place they're going is Arkansas. For all that corn.

 

[Winner]

Because we all know that the when the USSR invades the US the one place they're going is Arkansas. For all that corn.

It seems they just wanted to link up with the northern invasion force advancing from Alaska.

 

[Tee Kay]

This is the proper way to invade the United States!!!


Link to video.

 

[say1988]

It's one of the most hilarious films I've ever seen. It's especially funny to us who know what communism was really like.

It did have its moments. And is quite entertaining if you don't think about it.

 

[Winner]

OK, here's the first draft:

- Double-dip recession in the US.
Military spending greatly reduced.
World nuclear stockpiles reduced to minimum.
US forces pull out of Europe and Asia.

- Government turns to protectionism.
Trade disputes with China escalate.
China and Taiwan unite.

- Modernization of Venezuelan forces completed.
FARC receives aid and seizes power in Colombia.
Drug violence triggers revolution in Mexico.

- Castro regime reformed along Chinese model.
Invites Chinese navy to establish bases in Cuba.

- Caracas Pact formed to unite socialist countries
of Latin America. Brazil and Mexico join.
China sends military advisors and aid.

- European Union enacts common defence policy.
NATO dissolves.
United States stands alone.

If you don't get it, watch the first 40 seconds of this video

And yeah, it's meant to be ASB - I am doing this in the true spirit of the original Red Dawn