Altered Maps X: Ten Time's a Altered Map

say1988 · Jul 24, 2011

I'm more curious about the Viking city in the Ukraine.

Kiev (Konugard)

What's the Roman city in Armenia?

Artashat

And the Persian city in Egypt?

Daphnai

SuperBeaverInc. · Jul 24, 2011

Omega124 said:
What's the American city between Boston and New York?

choxorn said:
Looks like Springfield, Massachusetts, which probably isn't the Springfield I would have chosen, but it's hard to place that city when about 40 exist throughout the US.

timtofly said:
Springfield?

say1988 said:
That is the logical choice as it is probably the most important and well known (non-fiction) Springfield in the US (including its famous armoury), as well as the largest, I beleive. Although Illinois (as a state capital) is also a strong contender.
Or it could be a referenceto the Simpsons more than any real Springfield or to the sheer number of Springfields.

Springfield was a tricky one. There are actually 3 major Springfields, Massachusetts, Illinois, and Missouri. The one in Mass. is the most historic, the one in Illinois is the capital, and the one in Missouri is the largest. I eventually decided on Mass. because of the historic element, though I was very close to picking the Illinois one.

There were a couple of other instances like that. Like Heraclea on the Greek list which had something like 10 different entries on Wiki. But I eventually put it to the east of Istanbul after finding a random image on wiki showing a Heraclea there while looking for other cities.

jtb1127 said:
Every civ has the same amount of cities right? It looks like some have more but it is probably my imagination.
edited to correct a spelling error.

Every list is of different length. Persia and India in particular seemed to have longer than average ones.

choxorn · Jul 24, 2011

I would have gone with the Springfield the Simpsons lived in, if I had any actual idea where that was.

SuperBeaverInc. · Jul 24, 2011

Good luck figuring that out.

(also, if anyone gets me Civ I, II, or V (DLC's specifically) city lists, I could do a map for those)

Dumanios · Jul 24, 2011

Here's the city lists, including scenarios, from Civ5. Good Luck, kid.

Core Game:

Spoiler Core game city list :

Scenarios:

Spoiler Polynesia scenario city list :

Spoiler New World scenario city list :

W|M · Jul 24, 2011

choxorn said:
I would have gone with the Springfield the Simpsons lived in, if I had any actual idea where that was.

I assumed it was in Oregon.

Dachs · Jul 24, 2011

It's deliberately made unclear where it is by several contradictory references. I think it was in the movie that Flanders said that Ohio and Nevada - along with a few other impossible states - border the state Springfield is in.

say1988 · Jul 24, 2011

BTW, where did you lcate Thunderfall?

Huayna Capac357 · Jul 24, 2011

Firaxis, y u keep putting Vijayanagara ahead of Pataliputra and Varanasi? And also y u keep putting Shanghai before Xi'an/Chang'an and Luoyang?

Winner · Jul 24, 2011

RedRalph · Jul 24, 2011

South Sudan is shaped quite like China

Winner · Jul 24, 2011

RedRalph said:
South Sudan is shaped quite like China

And Somalia looks like a giant scythe, I am afraid. In more ways than one.

Traitorfish · Jul 24, 2011

Masada said:
'Swedish' 'tribe'.

Given that Mad Man is apparently not acquainted with the history in question, I was going for simplicity. If I'd though that "Slavo-Norse confederacy of mixed varangian Svealandic and indigenous proto-Ukrainian origins" was appropriate, I would've said as much.

jtb1127 · Jul 24, 2011

west india man said:
I assumed it was in Oregon.

In the Simpsons movie Flanders says to Bart that Ohio, Nevada, Maine, and Kentucky all border Springfield's state.

SuperBeaverInc. · Jul 24, 2011

say1988 said:
BTW, where did you lcate Thunderfall?

I didn't, since its not real.

There were several cities that I didn't place because I simply couldn't find them. Mali and Ethiopia especially had a few of those.

DJNotNice · Jul 24, 2011

jtb1127 said:
In the Simpsons movie Flanders says to Bart that Ohio, Nevada, Maine, and Kentucky all border Springfield's state.

And in an episode in Season 12, it is said that Springfield is in northern Kentucky. Also worth noting is that this particular Springfield is close to town called Shelbyville, just like in the Simpsons.

Masada · Jul 25, 2011

Traitorfish said:
Given that Mad Man is apparently not acquainted with the history in question, I was going for simplicity. If I'd though that "Slavo-Norse confederacy of mixed varangian Svealandic and indigenous proto-Ukrainian origins" was appropriate, I would've said as much.

If you have to say: "Slavo-Norse confederacy of mixed varangian Svealandic and indigenous proto-Ukrainian origins" then you have to say: "Slavo-Norse confederacy of mixed varangian Svealandic and indigenous proto-Ukrainian origins" to be accurate.

alex1994 · Jul 25, 2011

Here are some ethnic maps of Ex Yugoslavia. There are not many of those in here, and they are mostly untrue...

1. ethnic map - 1910.
http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae223/DarkAlex1994/Ex-YuEtnicka1910.png

2. maps of religious affiliation - 1910
http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae223/DarkAlex1994/Ex-YuReligijska1910.png

3. ethnic map - 1981.
http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae223/DarkAlex1994/Ex-YuEtnicka1981.png

4. ethnic map - 2011.
http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae223/DarkAlex1994/Ex-YuEtnicka2011.png

There is only 1 mistake i made. It is is the 1st map. In Legend, where it seas Macedonians it should say Macedonian Slavs (Serbian and Bulgarian affiliation).

Winner · Jul 25, 2011

I find the maps VERY hard to believe.

alex1994 · Jul 25, 2011

Winner said:
I find the maps VERY hard to believe.

And i am not surprised...though the first map has some mistakes (mostly in Vojvodina where there should be Romanians. First map was done by Serbian and world recognized geographer (you should have heard about him) and is by far the most trustworthy ethnic map of Balkan peninsula.
You find them hard to believe cause the maps that you saw from that period were done by German and Austrian scientists, and there propaganda against Serbia and Serbs was in full power in those days (ww1 began with A-H declaration of war against Kingdom of Serbia, it was 26th proposal of war from A-H military to it's government in 6 years). They were trying to crush our pretensions to Old Serbia (which was by 1912. in Ottoman Empire - today part of Serbia and Macedonia) and to Serbian parts of A-H monarchy. So part of the pre-war propaganda was many of ethnic maps made by Austrian and Hungarian historians in which Serbian people wasn't majority in any of Empires districts.
A-H wanted coast in the south....in south Adriatic sea and Aegean sea. A-H and Russia battled to spread there spheres of interest in Balkan (Eastern Question). Serbians where under Russian sphere of interest and Croatians and Albanians in A-H. I would write more....but there is a lot more....and my hand hurts

Oh yeah....one more thing. In Bosnia and Herzegovina....in the tie of 1910. there were 43% Serbs, 50% Muslim Serbs and 7% Croatians....but Muslim Serbs where concentrated in several regions so there majority doesn't stick out on the map

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