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Altered maps XI: Towards a New Decade!

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  1. Civ'ed

    Civ'ed I ain't gotta explain a thing

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    Welcome to the XIth installment of the Altered Maps Thread! This'll be my second time OPing a AM thread, but now.... We must look forward...

    First ye olde past:
    Altered Maps (the original!)
    Altered Maps 2: Uber-Yugoslavia FTW
    Altered Maps 3: The rise of the Basque Empire!
    Altered Maps 4: Partitioning Eastern Europe Like In The Good Old Days
    Altered Maps V: The Molotov-Threadentropp Pact
    Altered Maps VI: Xorda Gene Bombs.. going from Earth to Mobius
    Altered Maps VII: Making the World a Better Place
    Altered Maps VIII: World borders just got garbage-dayed
    Altered Maps IX:: Playing Musical Chairs with the Landmasses
    Altered Maps X:Ten Time's a Altered Map

    .... and now, we shall look forward into a future, and one whch contains crappy maps at that :p
    (am I offending anyone? If so, I'm basically offending myself :p)
    Here are some blank maps, I believe we do not need another one? Actually, I put an extra in. No worries, right?

    Spoiler Blank maps, not necessary, but still :




























    Spoiler Larger version of the above (MUCH LARGER) :

    More blank maps HERE or here.


    So... post!

    PS: also, if I can get enough support for the idea, I'd like to save some of the noteworthy altered maps for people to look at and (if that would be okay by you guys) edit, so as to create many histories.
    (I won't just put that in at start, I want you guys to decide.)
     
  2. hoplitejoe

    hoplitejoe Top fun-poster

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    Any questions?
     
  3. Midnight-Blue766

    Midnight-Blue766 The filidh that cam frae Skye

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  4. mythmonster2

    mythmonster2 BEC NOIR! RUN!

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    After so many times looking at that map, I just realized Britain is some sort of anthropomorphic lion-thing.
     
  5. choxorn

    choxorn Watermelon Headcrab

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    So... does anyone have any maps we haven't seen a hundred times before? :p
     
  6. MaxaTheGreat

    MaxaTheGreat Feel Prussian Iron!

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    Yep, because I whipped up another map:



    In this TL, Spain will form a mediterreanian empire, this map being 1620. The HRE in yellow got screwed over, with several parts of Germany now independent. There's also something about a giant France that looks nice to me. Also, huge Poland-Lithuania.
     
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    Tee Kay Justice guaranteed

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    Subscribing.
     
  8. NedimNapoleon

    NedimNapoleon Weird Little Human

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    Spoiler :
     
  9. Winner

    Winner Diverse in Unity

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    At least the parts bordering on Serbia should be annexed by it. Ditto the Serb parts of Kosovo.
     
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    NedimNapoleon Weird Little Human

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    Its not that easy because most major cities have 60 % muslim population (those along the border, višegrad, zvornik), and if you gave Serbia those parts the country would look like Swiss cheese.
     
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    NedimNapoleon Weird Little Human

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    EDIT: Double post
     
  12. Winner

    Winner Diverse in Unity

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    Well, honestly, Bosnia doesn't make much sense either as a country or a geographic region. Nobody knows what to do with it.
     
  13. RedRalph

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    I know what to do with it: give it to Serbia
     
  14. Winner

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    Well, I would mind that (now), but the Bosniaks might have a problem with that. I think it should just be partitioned between Croatia and Serbia, with the rest becoming an independent Bosniak state.
     
  15. RedRalph

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    Are there really any parts of it that should go to Croatia?
     
  16. Mathalamus

    Mathalamus Emperor of Mathalia

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    Venice got strong. at least i think its Venice.
     
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    One of the two parts of the country is called Bosniak-Croat Federation, so I assume the answer is yes.
     
  18. hoplitejoe

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    I say we give the whole area back to the Turks.
     
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    Croats are like 16%, Bosniaks are 50%, The problem is if you divide it it would be a bigger mess than Israel-Palestine, its all mixed up, its not like the SErbs are located in the east, other in the west.
     
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    Omega124 Challenging Fate

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    I just noticed that Denmark and the Netherlands were people. How cute.

    Probably a repost, but I found this to be really cool.



    Spoiler Note from creator :
    What is the most fragmented that North America could have been? There are several plausible scenarios (some based on different patterns of settlement from Europe, others on different fracture lines) but I chose 1787 as the point of divergence from real history. In this alternate reality, the westward expansion of the Anglo-American people proceeded pretty much as it did in our reality, but the United States government just couldn't keep up. Every national identity crisis resolved itself in favor of the separatists instead.

    Although this is an extremely unlikely scenario to begin with, I didn't want to just randomly subdivide the continent. I looked for regions which either ...

    1. administered themselves as autonomous nations at some point in American history, or ...

    2. shed blood to achieve or maintain their independence, or at least ...

    3. threatened to.

    Of course, the Native American tribes throughout the continent fit all these criteria, but I limited myself to only three native enclaves.



    Chronology:
    1775-1783
    The American Revolution procedes on schedule, and the 13 colonies form the United States of America.
    1787
    A fire at the State House in Philadelphia kills several members of the Constitutional Convention, including Washington, Madison and Franklin, and the new nation is forced to pass its early turbulent years without its most important leaders. After new delegates are chosen to replace the old ones, the convention votes to scrap the constitution that was about to be approved, and comes up with another one instead.
    1791
    Annoyed at the way the new federal government under John Adams is shaping up, Vermont refuses to join the Union, declaring itself an independent republic instead.
    1800
    France acquires Louisiana from Spain.
    1803
    Annoyed at the way the USA under President Aaron Burr is treating France, Napoleon refuses to sell Louisiana to them. Burr plans an invasion.
    1804
    After President Burr is killed in a duel by Alexander Hamilton, Vice-President Jefferson takes over, and the USA shifts from a pro-British to a pro-French foreign policy.
    1812-15
    The USA goes to War with Britain and unsuccessfully invades Canada. In opposition to the war, New England secedes, but Napoleon, grateful for the assistance, agrees to sell the relatively empty Upper Louisiana to the US. The area around New Orleans, however, has a large French population by now, and it remains a French colony.
    1815
    Refusing to recognize the restored Bourbon monarchy of France, Lower Louisiana declares itself an independent republic. A British force attacking New Orleans is slaughtered by the defending French.
    1819-37
    After many border incidents, the US occupies Florida. Pockets of Seminole Indians and runaway slaves put up a stiff resistance in Peninsular Florida, eventually driving out the Americans.
    1820
    Without New England, the free states cannot get enough votes to stop slavery from being allowed throughout Upper Louisiana.
    1821
    Mexico declares its independence from Spain.
    1830
    The US expels the eastern Indian tribes to lands west of the Mississippi, settling them in what will later become the Five Nations area.
    1835
    American settlers in Texas declare their independence from Mexico. Louisiana intevenes because they are afraid that Texas will join the USA if left on their own, which would leave Louisiana utterly encircled. Cajun militia reinforces the Texans at the Alamo, stops the Mexican Army and secures independence for Texas, on the condition that it not join the USA.
    1837
    The Mormons settle on the Great Salt Lake and found the semi-autonomous state of Deseret within Mexican territory.
    1837-41
    Rebellions in Quebec and Upper Canada establish independence from Great Britain.
    1846
    American settlers in Oregon petition for annexation to the US, but the slave states vote the request down. Instead, the Oregonians establish a sovereign government themselves.
    1849
    Gold is discovered in California. Immigrants from all over the world pour in.
    1852
    Working in secret alliance, California and Deseret declare their independence from Mexico, while Texas pushes its border from the Nueces to the Rio Grande. Three armies (one from each ally) converge on Santa Fe, but Mexico manages to beat back these amatuer militias, holding onto New Mexico. Mexico, however, is forced to recognize the new nations.
    1860
    Although the free state voting block had been weakened by the secession of New England, the slave state voting block had not been boosted by the addition of Texas, Louisiana and Florida. As most of the new states carved out of Upper Louisiana (Iowa, Kansas and Minnesota) had been settled by free-soilers, the southerners are only one state away from losing control of the Senate. The House of Representatives has already shifted to a free state majority, and with the election of Abraham Lincoln of the abolitionist Republican Party to the presidency, the south fears that slavery may soon be abolished altogether. The South secedes.
    1861-63
    Lacking the manpower and industrial muscle of New England, the USA fails to reconquer the South. In fact, New England is selling the CSA all the weapons it wants. Taking advantage of the crisis, the Five Nations of Indian Territory also declare their independence from the USA.
    1870-2
    Heavy-handed attempts by the Canadians to assert control over the interior provoke a revolt among the metis, the French/Native inhabitants of the Red River region.
    1876
    Custer's command is wiped out by the Sioux and Cheyenne at the Little Bighorn River.
     
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