Easter Island (?) and a lot of ocean.
Isn't that considerably to the north? And not where Chile is the only country in that series of parallels?
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Easter Island (?) and a lot of ocean.
so wait, there's a point in chile where, going eternally west, you will eventually end up back in chile without ever having to show your passport?
The southern half of both Chile and Argentina was in the hands of several aboriginal tribes. Eventually the Mapuches exterminated almost all the other tribes and set up a robber state in what is now Patagonia; they stole cattle and women in Argentina and sold them in Chile for profit. Eventually the Argentinians lost patience and around 1880 they drove the Mapuches into submission or back over the mountains. Somehow, the Mapuches, who raped, pillaged and burned unless they managed to get enough tribute, are the victims in all of this.Any brief info-filling on how/why Chile and Argentina have this strange border in the tierra del fuego?
warpus said:Tierra del Fuego and the rest of Patagonia are beautiful btw.. It's such an interesting part of the world.
Takhisis said:Eventually the Mapuches exterminated almost all the other tribes
Those are demarcation issues, not the whole 'all your south are belong to us' mania the Chileans had. Argentina's getting operatives in anyway, even the Chilean national football team's last three coaches have been Argentines.From what I remember there are a bunch of places in southern Patagonia where the borders are still disputed to this day. Some of them run over icefields and glaciers I think, but I also seem to remember some disputed islands south of Tierra del Fuego.
You can actually lean on the wind, if it's strong enough it can keep you standing up. (I still advise you not to try it, anyway)warpus said:Tierra del Fuego and the rest of Patagonia are beautiful btw.. It's such an interesting part of the world. And a consequence of the fact that there isn't any other land at those latitudes are strong winds - you will in many places see trees growing sideways.
I think they call those winds the roaring 50s or something like that. In New Zealand they have the roaring 40s. I think I messed those names up, but it's something like that - all due to the limited amount of land at those latitutdes, and in the case of Patagonia an absence of it.
Takhisis said:Eventually the Mapuches exterminated almost all the other tribes and set up a robber state in what is now Patagonia; they stole cattle and women in Argentina and sold them in Chile for profit.
The name comes from the fires the aborigines used to lit, which Spanish sailors saw.So 'Tierra del Fuego' is a euphemism? (like Cape of good hope, where ships usually were sunk into the rugged coast rocks).
If electric guitars had existed, he would have used the power of rock.Until proven otherwise, I'll assume it's populated with fire dragons that sink any ship; the only way Magellan crossed the strait through by using the power of religion!
Takhisis said:The mapuches only crossed the Andes into Patagonia in the mid-nineteenth century
Takhisis said:They exterminated every tribe they found and it wasn't 'for their survival'.
"The Araucanization of Patagonia (Spanish: Araucanización de la Patagonia) was the process of the expansion of Mapuche culture, influence, and its Mapudungun language from Araucanía across the Andes into the plains of Patagonia. Historians disagree over the time period during which the expansion took place, but estimate it occurred roughly between 1550 and 1850. Amerindian peoples of the pampas, such as the Puelche and Tehuelche, adopted the Mapudungun language as their main language (both of their names are in Mapudungun). Together with Quechua, Aymara, Guarani, and Nahuatl, Mapudungun was among the few Amerindian languages that expanded in use on the continent after the beginning of European colonization. This area of the Patagonia was generally isolated from European settlement until late in the 19th century.
The Mapuche who migrated to Patagonia lived often as nomads. As European settlers established frontier settlements, the Mapuche raided them for cattle or looted their produce. They drove off the cattle stolen in the incursions (malones) and took them to Chile through the mountain passes to trade for goods, especially alcoholic beverages."
Takhisis said:The mapuches only crossed the Andes into Patagonia in the mid-nineteenth century
Takhisis said:well after the Spanish colonies had achieved independence.
As per expected, Alaska is America's prisoner colony, right next to Florida.
what language is Vaduz?apparently this is under the guise that german influence never existed, so yea, austria falls under italian influence in this timeline