Altered Maps XVI: Gerardus Mercator Must Die

[Thorgalaeg]

Never played panzer general. Is it normal to have all that cavalry swimming in the sea?

 

[Kyriakos]

There is an ominous lack of cities on that map Reduced to rabble - or rubbles.

 

[r16]

ı believe PG debuted in 1996 , PGF or Panzer General Forever exists since -ı think- 2010 with the modder's provisions that he hasn't asked the company that owns the legal rights but ı have never seen any opposition reported . Can be found online , about 12MBs of download , runs on 64bit computers as well . There's a cheat list and that's how ı have more fortifications than the scenario provided for and ı can move them around .The 4 by 4 buttons under the small map shows the functions and the second from the Left in the top line looks like a ferry ? That shows how many ships and cargo planes you can have in the scenario each carrying a single suitable unit . ı could perhaps get a minor victory by playing straight with only Turkish units and have no doubts about a major with full use of British ones , but that simply doesn't count . So r16 shamelessly cheats .

as for the lack of towns , capturing each gives you 40 "prestige" and those thick yellow bordered ones are victory hexes with 80 . Capturing one of each would make 120 and from that ı could buy an extra artillery unit at 72 and get a truck at 24 to get it moving 8 hexes on the roads instead of 1 in all "land" terrains except swamps . Looks real simple and is but you can really take advantage of the game mechanics to gain prestige and get your reinforcements as they are needed . Or save your money and kill some enemies and save and save and buy some bomber later in the game . So , it's about taking places and keeping them . Perhaps not the best wargame but it can be really engrossing .

 

[W|M]

 

[Kyriakos]

 

[Lohrenswald]

no

 

[Arakhor]

That's a totally daft German/Czech border.

 

[Kyriakos]

I don't care, cause the Byz Empire looks decent.

Protektorat Bomen/Maren/Slovakien is to be annexed anyway.

Not sure why Kurdistan has a ball, given apparently it isn't its own country...

 

[JohannaK]

Why is Bulgaria part of Communist Yugoslavia and why is Byzantoum on the map and what is with Scandinavia, and the Baltics?

 

[Traitorfish]

That's a totally daft German/Czech border.

It was also the actual border for around 11 months in 1919, between the mostly self-declared governments of Czechoslovakia and "German-Austria"- that is, the ethnically German parts of Austria-Hungary. If they'd succeeded in their bid for a democratic Anschluss, the border may have resembled that in the map, at least for a while.

Why is Bulgaria part of Communist Yugoslavia and why is Byzantoum on the map and what is with Scandinavia, and the Baltics?

The ultra-Yugoslavists wanted to incorporate Bulgaria as well, and union was briefly plausible in the late 1930s. Possibly in this reality, Tito ended the war with a stronger hand and was able to force the Soviets to accept annexation. After all, if you listen to Bulgarian nationalists, the annexation of Macedonia to Yugoslavia was in effect the annexation of one third of Bulgaria; the remaining two-thirds isn't a huge stretch.

Scandinavia has one of the various proposals for a pan-Scandinavian flag. The different national flags have just enough colours in common that some people thought it was a good idea to include all of them, which necessitating drawing up the Union Jack's weird cousin from the country. Possibly this is because limiting it to two or three may lead to some constituents being over- or under-represented, possibly because they were insane.

The Baltic like the United Baltic Duchy somehow stayed intact, and adopted the Fenno-Swedish flag for some reasons. It's plausible that a united Baltic state may have emerged- probably would have been smarter than three small states, for those concerned about keeping themselves the Soviets at bay- and the original black and white cross was probably a bit too German, and both Estonia and Latvia contemplated Nordic crosses before plumping for the more solidly republic triple-bands, but I don't know where they got red and yellow from.

Christ knows what the deal with Byzantium is.

 

[Lohrenswald]

Scandinavia has one of the various proposals for a pan-Scandinavian flag.

what idiot proposed that thing

 

[Traitorfish]

what idiot proposed that thing

Not sure, but we can only hope that they are dead and in hell.

 

[W|M]

Christ knows what the deal with Byzantium is.

Greek ultra-nationalists

 

[Arakhor]

Hardly ultra-nationalists. Those sorts would have expanded the purple all the way to Antioch.

 

[Lohrenswald]

what idiot proposed that thing

Not sure, but we can only hope that they are dead and in hell.

I've tried looking for a bit, and it seems to come from Assasin's Creed

 

[Kyriakos]

Not sure why some are up in arms about the quite modest Byzantine landmass... it is something like 2/5ths of the Komnenian borders or less. It mostly resembled (albeit with a bit more land in Asia Minor) the 'Megale Idea' map >3,5/5ths of it was a reality in 1919 (ie everything in the european part, apart from Constantinople itself, and a part of Asia Minor, Smyrna and around it).
I am sure that most other borders on that map are far more fantasy oriented, eg Germany, restored Hungary in Transylvania, Ireland re-annexed to Britain; the map is clearly one loosely based on various historic periods maps, but apparently most are a bit before or a bit after the first world-war.

Barbarians and their endless complaints

 

[really]

Italy and Palestine seem happy about it.

 

[Broken_Erika]

Italy and Palestine seem happy about it.

The Czechs seem happy too. Slovaks, not so happy.

 

[Dachs]

interesting how India gets all of Kashmir on that map

wonder who made it

 

[Lohrenswald]

probably aron strandberg