Altered Maps XVI: Gerardus Mercator Must Die

[JohannaK]

I dont know why all those blood items are there, it's real tasty.

 

[Gen.Mannerheim]

Not sure if altered or correct:

Well, Cornwall and that little clump in western East Anglia stand out as particularly noticeable.

Yeah, that people in Cornwall might not consider themselves too English or too British is not surprising.

But that little section in East Anglia, which looks like Forest Heath in Suffolk, being not too English or too British is confusing. Do people there still think they live in the Danelaw or something?

 

[Chukchi Husky]

Yeah, that people in Cornwall might not consider themselves too English or too British is not surprising.

 

[Lohrenswald]

if only Domen could see this

 

[Takhisis]

I don't know. There seems to be an insufficiency of haplogroups.

 

[really]

I've been to Zamosc.

 

[Kyriakos]

Not sure how altered/correct:

"Map showing the approximate present-day distribution of the different branches of the Indo-European language"

Eg fyromian is counted as separate from bulgarian
English seems to be paying danegeld.
Btw, i didn't know that Georgian isn't an indo-european language.

 

[AdrienIer]

There is a Deutchland uber alles vibe on this map... Else the french yellow would go up to the border, and into Switzerland as well. Also Wallonia speaks french, no need to separate it, and Occitan is barely spoken anymore.

 

[sophie]

Uhhh...I don't really understand what this map is trying to depict?

Why is French divided into Occitan, German divided into High, Middle, and Low, but Italian is depicted as one language?

 

[Gen.Mannerheim]

Uhhh...I don't really understand what this map is trying to depict?

Why is French divided into Occitan, German divided into High, Middle, and Low, but Italian is depicted as one language?

Don't you know the Italian Language doesn't have any regional variations, and has been reserved intact since the Romans!

Also, should Gaelic even be on the map? Its down to less than 1,200 speakers last time I checked, and of them less than half would be considered full/native in ability. Unlike Welsh, whose numbers are down but there are still plenty of people about who speak it as a first language, Gaelic seems more like a passion case for the SNP trying to hold a "national" language that nobody really uses. Heck, there are more Gaelic speakers in Canada than in Scotland these days.

There is a Deutchland uber alles vibe on this map... Else the french yellow would go up to the border, and into Switzerland as well. Also Wallonia speaks french, no need to separate it, and Occitan is barely spoken anymore.

Is the surviving Occitan speakers even isolated in a single area anymore? I thought they were mostly spread lightly in rural ares in the south.

 

[AdrienIer]

I thought they were mostly spread lightly in rural ares in the south.

Yes

 

[metatron]

There is a Deutchland uber alles vibe on this map... Else the french yellow would go up to the border, and into Switzerland as well. Also Wallonia speaks french, no need to separate it, and Occitan is barely spoken anymore.

Erm, maybe remember that you are not an American college girl and, you know, get an actual map?

I don't know about you, but even if i hold the map upside down francophone Switzerland is represented just fine, if not overrepresented.
As far as the upper Rhine goes, i suppose French does reach all the way to the border and it's just drawn poopy (like, the corner at Karlsruhe doesn't look very cornerly etc.).
Your biggest actual problem here should be that Belgium may have taken back a fair chunk of the Picardie.

Edit: Yeah, on second thought the whole Palatine situation there is a mess. I'm not sure where this fat-fingered approach has filed Luxembourg either.

 

[AdrienIer]

Erm, maybe remember that you are not an American college girl and, you know, get an actual map?

I don't know about you, but even if i hold the map upside down francophone Switzerland is represented just fine, if not overrepresented.
As far as the upper Rhine goes, i suppose French does reach all the way to the border and it's just drawn poopy (like, the corner at Karlsruhe doesn't look very cornerly etc.).
Your biggest actual problem here should be that Belgium may have taken back a fair chunk of the Picardie.

Edit: Yeah, on second thought the whole Paliatine situation there is a mess. I'm not sure where this fat-fingered approach has filed Luxembourg either.

Mmmm ok maybe Romandie isn't in German color but in Occitan color, which is at least as wrong.

 

[metatron]

Mmmm ok maybe Romandie isn't in German color but in Occitan color, which is at least as wrong.

Of course.
I presupposed, that we don't care about that distinction since we both agree that the usage of Occitan in the map is largely dubious in the first place.

 

[Gen.Mannerheim]

Mmmm ok maybe Romandie isn't in German color but in Occitan color, which is at least as wrong.

The Germanic languages are all some variation of blue, and thus easy to group together. But the Romance languages don't seem to match, making this map a little hard for someone who doesn't know their language families.

 

[EnglishEdward]

But that little section in East Anglia, which looks like Forest Heath in Suffolk, being not too English or too British is confusing. Do people there still think they live in the Danelaw or something?

I believe that that area corresponds to horticultural and intensely farmed land where I suspect that the
migrants working on the gardens and farms there then did not consider themselves either English or British.

 

[Takhisis]

Also, should Gaelic even be on the map? Its down to less than 1,200 speakers last time I checked, and of them less than half would be considered full/native in ability. Unlike Welsh, whose numbers are down but there are still plenty of people about who speak it as a first language, Gaelic seems more like a passion case for the SNP trying to hold a "national" language that nobody really uses. Heck, there are more Gaelic speakers in Canada than in Scotland these days.

I think your numbers are a bit off. The language extermination policies of the UK's elites have certainly proven very effective over the last two or three centuries, but the language is (fortunately) not that dead.

 

[Gen.Mannerheim]

I think your numbers are a bit off. The language extermination policies of the UK's elites have certainly proven very effective over the last two or three centuries, but the language is (fortunately) not that dead.

You're right. I mistakenly read the "numbers fewer" as "total speakers". There's about ~57k speakers of Gaelic in Scotland, just above 1% of the population. But it still holds that less than half of the speakers aproach full or native ability.

While I don't want Gaelic to go the way of Cornish or Mannix, I still find it funny that the ancestors some of the biggest supports of Gaelic in Scotland never even spoke the language.


While we're with the Celtic languages, it's sad that Breton may be within a few generations of a crisis themselves.

 

[Kyriakos]

Really doubt this is rigorous/serious (eg "Girocaster" makes zero sense given it would be formed by the greek minority part of Albania and... a bit of Greece? lol They'd just join Greece ), but one map of supposed potential independent regions:

Also: Skezely land should never materialize. Those skezely were a damned nuisance in Medieval: Total War.

 

[AdrienIer]

Normandy ? Northumberland ? Outer Hebrides ??? What's their economy gonna be like ?