Alternate History Thread II...

[Insane_Panda]

I'm up to it if I get the Gaelic Empire

 

[Kal'thzar]

Deal.

Now hop to it!

 

[Disenfrancised]

[U]Nation					#ECs[/U]
The Kingdom of Spain			21
The United Kingdom			19
The Northern Italian League		10
The Kingdom of Poland			9
The Russian Republic			7
The Qing Chinese Empire			6
The Kalmar Union			5
The Gaelic Republic			4
The Nadirid Persian Empire		4
The Kingdom of Hungary			3
The State of Turkey			3
The Egyptian Sultanate			3
The Kingdom of Aquitaine		2
The Kingdom of Brunswick		2
The Kingdom of Brandenburg-Saxony	2
The Kingdom of Bohemia			2
The Kingdom of Bulgaria			2
The Kingdom of Vietnam			2
The Shogunate of Japan			2
The Russian American Company		1
The Rouge Confederacy			1
The Swiss Confederacy			1
The Republic of Bohemia			1
The Kingdom of Macedonia		1
The Mughal Empire			1
The Kingdom of Wurzburg-Bamberg		0
The Kingdom of Greater Wurttemburg	0
The Papal States			0
The Bornu				0
The Kingdom of Georgia			0
The Sikh Punjab				0
The Rajput Ajmer			0

Maybe its not that unbalanced, at least there are a few quite strong nations apart from Britain and France.
Predicitions:
1) Vietnam and Japan will aquire a Great powers patronage (if they haven't already) and be snarling attack dogs to the great lumbering Chinese Tiger.

 

[Azale]

Japan looks interesting...as does Vietnam...as does Poland...as does Turkey...

 

[Oruc]

China looks interesting

 

[alex994]

Predicitions:
1) Vietnam and Japan will aquire a Great powers patronage (if they haven't already) and be snarling attack dogs to the great lumbering Chinese Tiger.

It's the Chinese DRAGON! Not "Tiger" The DRAGON

I will stay away from this evil nes due to obvious reasons... Or steal one of the Superpowers...

 

[Drake Rlugia]

Spain's amount of EC is frightening, however. It's scary to think how much damage they can do. But as they say, the bigger they are, the harder they fall.

 

[Azale]

I think Kal is going with the size stat for this NES, so that should help some.

 

[Insane_Panda]

Not really. Military stats don't require that size limit thing.

 

[Oruc]

Wouldnt they just get more bang for their buck? if they used the size thing

 

[Symphony D.]

[It's the Chinese DRAGON! Not "Tiger" The DRAGON

-When Nuclear War starts, and the American Eagle and the Russian Bear comes down the mountain and fight, they will claw each other. then as both are weakened, the chinese tiger will defeat both- Mao Tse Tung

... That said I've always thought the Dragon was a more appropriate symbol.

The Kingdom of Spain: 21
The United Kingdom: 19

Never seen better code for "the rest of you are screwed" or "omg, cold war!"

 

[das]

Maybe its not that unbalanced, at least there are a few quite strong nations apart from Britain and France.

Well, I'm sure that there are some powers stronger than FRANCE in this world, especially after 1799.

1) Vietnam and Japan will aquire a Great powers patronage (if they haven't already) and be snarling attack dogs to the great lumbering Chinese Tiger.

Already ongoing, the British have been propping them up. I really hope that if Panda is beaten to the Gaelic Republic, he will take Vietnam - they even named a king after him, to a certain extent!

Spain's amount of EC is frightening, however. It's scary to think how much damage they can do. But as they say, the bigger they are, the harder they fall.

It is frightening, ofcourse. But Spain is even less stable than the UK - as soon as it slips, hell will break out.

Never seen better code for "the rest of you are screwed" or "omg, cold war!"

If it is any consolation at all, the UK and Spain could work together against common enemies. Then again, that doesn't sound all that consoling...

 

[Kal'thzar]

Not really. Military stats don't require that size limit thing.

You got a big Empire, You need the military to keep a certain amount of control...you send said military of to die, said large terretories might just become Opportunistic.

 

[Symphony D.]

The point of a size stat is to limit increases nation wide, eg: education, because you have so damn many people that major changes are hard to implement.

Applying the size stat to military training makes sense because if you've got a huge country, odds are you've got a huge military, and so reforms take time. Applying it to military size doesn't, because getting 10,000 guys to hold rifles and shoot people is pretty much the same regardless of how big your country is.

 

[Kal'thzar]

You speak the truth, however, the point is I'm not really willing to give myself the extra work required to look after the military stats.
(of course you could do something but bleh )

 

[Oruc]

But if your Bigger and have more people why cant you recruit more then others?

 

[Kal'thzar]

you can....

 

[Symphony D.]

Because an Eco. Point is an Eco. Point regardless of your nation's size, and ostensibly soldiers won't settle for less pay just because you're a bigger country. To get more would mean an Eco. Point would have to vary in value (which obviously doesn't work for sensibility's sake) or that your troops would be magically willing to work for less money than somebody else's.

If the United States had a population of 100 million instead of 295 million, and only consisted of the original 13 states for example, it'd still cost the same to train and pay a soldier to the same level of quality. National size and population have no bearing on the resources required to obtain a soldier.

You get more by having a bigger economy by virtue of being a bigger nation. Not by getting more out of a given amount of economy.

 

[Oruc]

You dont know what the hell your talking about.

 

[Kal'thzar]

care to explain your view then?