Veritass
Emperor
Most mitigating circumstances have to do with factual evidence.
"Hate crime" is "thought crime", a dangerous slope to start down.
Bacon the new hate crime.
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Most mitigating circumstances have to do with factual evidence.
"Hate crime" is "thought crime", a dangerous slope to start down.
skadistic
Caomhanach
So this would be a hate littering? whats the punishment for littering and what is a good escalation because it was "hate"?
It's a case that merits a harsher punishment than mere littering.
Crime = act + intent, so two similar acts can be punished differntly depending on intent (mere littering vs. targeting a specific group with your act) just as two people with the same intent (show their disdain for a religious group) could be punished differently if their acts to achieve their intent were different (leaving a bacon-laden Koran at the doorstep vs. firing shots at the doorstep).
woody60707
Deity
I think your mixing up the usage of the word intent. Intent is the goal, not the reason for a action. If I got in to a fight and landed a unluckily blow killing the guy, I would say my intent wasn't to kill him and so i shouldn't be charged with murder I.
typo,.shouldn't*
Murder statutes are based on intent. If you intended to kill the guy when you threw the punch, then you would be charged with a more serious crime than if you got an lucky punch in or if you were just swing your arms around and somebody walked into your accidental "punch". In the case of the bacon, your punishment should very depending on if you were just littering or if you placed it there for a specific purpose that went beyond mere littering.
woody60707
Deity
I agree, to a point. If your intent was to fool someone in to eating that bacon so they would get sick, then thats the crime you should be charged with, if your intent was to terrorize them to change or give up their freedoms, then the crime should be terrorism. but as Veritass said,a hate crime law is nothing more then a "thought crime" and not a road i wish to go down.
Now the Mob and the KKK both intended to use terror on a community to archive their aims. The Mob use terror to shut people up, so they can run their illegal activities, the KKK used terror to make all the non-white/Jews move away. The intent was the same, to comment terrorist acts, it doesn't (shouldn't) matter if the reason was greed or hatred, the crime (intent) was terrorism.
LOL is there a Godwin for terrorism yet?
I can see your point. To me, the incident in question was obviously more than littering, but obviously short of terrorism. The punishment should be enhanced from littering, but not charged as terrorism. Charging it as a hate crime (to get the focus on the intent being less innocent than mere littering) may be the only choice to be able to extract an appropriate punishment.
Hygro
soundcloud.com/hygro/
Hate crimes aren't because you hate the person, but because you committed the act out of a hatred for the demographic, in order to target the whole demographic through example. Hate crimes are a form of terrorism, usually by the majority power.
Drewcifer
Agent of Karma
In the old days for something like that the police would just beat them up and then let them go.
pboily
fingerlickinmathematickin
I think it ranks right up there with showing a breast on tv.
Xanikk999
History junkie
Or fined to the same extent. Name who got upset about Janet Jackson again and got the the networks fined?Which means it should be ignored.
Too many people make big deals out of little things.
Ansar
Détente avec l'été
Our holy book has been tainted by fat! 
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
Are you achin
yepyepyep
for some bacon
yepyepyep
he's a big pig
yepyep
and you can be a big pig too
OY!
yepyepyep
for some bacon
yepyepyep
he's a big pig
yepyep
and you can be a big pig too
OY!
salty mud
Deity
Sorry if this is slighty off topic now, but the original news made me laugh. 
salty mud
Deity
Our holy book has been tainted by fat!
Are you bothered by this?
Ansar
Détente avec l'été
Kozmos
Jew Detective
If I had a bible with bacon on it, I'd might believe god exists.
salty mud
Deity
It proves God is a pig!
Is that why pigs are unholy to muslims?
Is that why pigs are unholy to muslims?
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