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Zulu Conqueror
My hopeful candidates:
GOP:
Rand Paul
Ben Carson
DNC:
Mark Pryor
Joe Manchin
Max Baucus
GOP:
Rand Paul
Ben Carson
DNC:
Mark Pryor
Joe Manchin
Max Baucus
Because We Have a Problem: 2016 Forcasting List
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Given Rand Paul's recent attempts at outreach to minority voters, he's probably a likely candidate and will possibly be more successful than his father since he also has a bit of a Tea Party base as well.
Not to say those conversations weren't awkward as hell to watch, but you have to start somewhere, and he has time to improve his outreach efforts before 2016 rolls around.
Not to say those conversations weren't awkward as hell to watch, but you have to start somewhere, and he has time to improve his outreach efforts before 2016 rolls around.
That's the million-dollar question. If he did, he might be a legit contender. If he didn't, he's probably not going much further.
I don't know quite yet, but given how awkward the Latino outreach speech was, and how awkward this one was, there didn't seem to be a lot of improvement between the two. We'll know when he makes the next one.
I still do. Jindal is getting push back for advocating fundamentally conservative ideas...he wants to trim back state income and corporate taxes in favor of more sales taxes or equally regressive rates. In a state with as many poor people as Louisiana, that's a harder sell (while very conservative, the state still has a streak of blue-ish populism in it), but to a Republican primary audience, I don't see why that would eliminate him? Guys who weren't so popular with their geographic base run for president all the time...not just Mittens, but Santorum too. Heck, I'm not sure if Georgia would sent Newt back to congress if they could.
Jindal still has strong credentials for a conservative policy reformer, especially on education (where there is mostly an agreement between conservative and liberal elites). He's one of the very few Republicans who can credibly talk about health care. He's very much not an idiot, and he's not white. He's boring, but there are still a lot of stronger fundamentals there.
I think it's probably more likely he ends up as the next Sec of Education or something in a GOP Presidency, but if he runs, I think he'd do fairly well.
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Zulu Conqueror
I was expecting people to crucify me on my DNC choices (only one actually has a chance, unfortunately).
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Jewel Runner
I'm a bit confused why people want Ben Carson to run for president. What has he done to suggest interest or capability in the office?
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Zulu Conqueror
I'd prefer him as a Vice President, but he seems to have the right views and would be a popular candidate. I needed someone other than Rand.
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Jewel Runner
Yeah, but why him? I find Dennis Kucinich agreeable enough, but I wouldn't vote for him, and he's actually held political office.
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Zulu Conqueror
IIRC Carson was against the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, and I'm not sure I can say that about the other GOP hopefuls.
If the Democrats nominate someone like Baucus then I would consider voting for them.
GhostWriter16
Deity
Was Ben Carson really against BOTH of them? I've never heard of this guy. If he really is, I'm on his bandwagon NOW!
Rand Paul screwed up on Afghanistan, although in fairness, so did his dad...
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Zulu Conqueror
I think he is, I can't remember where I read it, and I don't know the rest of his positions besides that he is fiscally conservative and against SSM.
On the topic of the GOP learning things, I suspect they're incorrigible:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/11/paycheck-fairness-act_n_3063804.html
Okay, I will. Pryor has been a Senator of little renown and is almost certainly going to lose his seat this year. Manchin is barely a Democrat who might not have even voted for Obama last election, and Baucus has been one of the Senate's biggest supporters of Big Banks, and was full of conflict of interests in dealing with health care reform. He's a western version of Senator Dodd, hardly something to be excited about.
The "conservative" Dems in this election will probably be Cuomo and gov Brian schweitzer
GhostWriter16
Deity
Why, of all positions that whoever this guy is holds, did you rememeber THAT ONE?
Foreign policy is infinitely more important. I need to know that for sure before I support him.
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Jewel Runner
You're missing my point though: Somebody being well-known and agreeing with you doesn't actually mean they'd be good at being president. I mean, I agree with Ben Carson that people should be healthy, but I'm not gunning for his job. So what has he done indicating he has the skills needed for any political office?
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