Because We Have a Problem: 2016 Forcasting List

The more I think about it, the stronger chance I think O'Malley has. His speaking skills are good enough, he has executive experience, excellent fundraising and campaigning skills, no cluster-effs like in New York (where Clinton, Cuomo, and others would all draw from the same local sources), he doesn't have a potentially controversial voting record in the Senate (which, with the Senate's low approval ratings and stuff like the sequester, healthcare, unpopular deficit reduction measures, etc., is a huge boost), he hasn't done anything outrageously bad as Mayor or as Governor, and he successfully held his seat in the 2010 Republican wave (I'm always skeptical of one-termers--that could be luck, whereas winning multiple statewide elections means you have skill).

If not Biden or Clinton, I think O'Malley is a really strong bet.

He's photogenic too:

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He looks like Littlefinger in that photo.
 
Clearly no fans of The Wire here. Son I am disappoint.

Haha, you got me. I knew it was too good to be true :p

Also shows I didn't even remember what Martin O'Malley looked like from the DNC...
 
Also shows I didn't even remember what Martin O'Malley looked like from the DNC...
He has less hair.

On his head, anyway.
 
Whoa, if I live in Tennessee, I won't be considered a prime demographic for political ads. What's that like?

Its awful, trust me. Literally every ad between TV shows will be a political one, especially on a news network.

CNN had so many clean coal ads it wasn't even funny.
 
Yeah, that's what it's like in Ohio (although I don't watch cable news, but I can assume that's the case). But Tennessee always goes Republican in national elections and Memphis always goes Democratic in local ones, so I'm not gonna be terribly valuable as a potential voter.
 
Yeah, that's what it's like in Ohio (although I don't watch cable news, but I can assume that's the case). But Tennessee always goes Republican in national elections and Memphis always goes Democratic in local ones, so I'm not gonna be terribly valuable as a potential voter.

Oh derp, just realized I misread your post.

I've been having just the most off day today, blech.
 
Its awful, trust me. Literally every ad between TV shows will be a political one, especially on a news network.

CNN had so many clean coal ads it wasn't even funny.

That's national--the "clean" coal industry has been really pushing their public relations front, especially trying to sway low-information environmentalist-type voters.

In the long run though, if I were a Democratic strategist I wouldn't sweat it, California was worth West Virginia and Kentucky.
 
Honestly, I would be happy with anyone but Cuomo.

What's your beef with him?

What's your problem with Josef Stalin?:p

Just kidding, but seriously, Cuomo being the Democrat would actually tempt me to vote GOP for President... Which I really, really do not want to do unless Rand Paul is the candidate, in which case I'd vote GOP anyway...

The NY "SAFE" Act by itself is enough to prove that Cuomo is both a clueless baffoon and an insane authoritarian. Cuomo and Bloomberg should seriously get their own private island somewhere and just stop bothering anyone decent...
 
It's pretty damning for the Republicans that even after the OP was made in 2012, we're still looking at the same list of front-runners.
 
I think Kelly Ayotte has been increasing the number of her TV appearances as well as giving a decently well-received speech at CPAC; I'd put a little more stock in her than I would have last year. She has foreign policy credentials (when I hear her speak, you can tell John McCain was her mentor), and if you expect the economy to be better in 2016 that would take steam out of some of other candidates. Plus, she's from a swing state.

Problem is, she's in Congress (read: has a voting record), and the public might still be skeptical of a hawkish presidential candidate.

So that's at least one that's a little different.
 
Problem is, she's in Congress (read: has a voting record), and the public might still be skeptical of a hawkish presidential candidate

Yeah, because voters have voted for so many doves in the in the past seventy years...

I can think of MAYBE one...
 
Yeah, because voters have voted for so many doves in the in the past seventy years...

I can think of MAYBE one...

What they do in office is sometimes and even often quite different than what happens on the campaign trail, granted, but consider how the Democratic party was captured by the antiwar movement following the debacle in Vietnam. Consider that the preeminent Democratic front-runner in the 2008 was Hillary Clinton, and she was unseated by a nobody first-termer who vigorously attacked her in the primary debates for voting for the Iraq War.

Consider also the growing libertarian and budget-conscious Tea Party elements in the Republican party, who object to foreign aid on philosophical grounds that we should not be sending our tax dollars to foreign countries and object to foreign wars on similar grounds.
 
I actually kinda like Andrew Cuomo, but I don't think I'm as far left as many of our other US Dem posters. I thought his leadership on bringing gay marriage to NY was quite admirable.
 
I actually kinda like Andrew Cuomo, but I don't think I'm as far left as many of our other US Dem posters. I thought his leadership on bringing gay marriage to NY was quite admirable.

If you want a "moderate" Dem, you can find better men and women than Cuomo. My dislike for the man doesn't really stem from policy disagreements, though I don't think getting tough with the unions is much of an accomplishment.

I think Elizabeth Warren might be the most radical of all the mentioned semi-realistic candidates. There is no one here for the regular left much less the far left. AFAIK they're all to the right of Obama, which doesn't necessarily mean they would be worse Presidents.
 
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