Boycott Halal

It seems you are choosing to do business with a company that is choosing to do business in a country that has some fees. That is two levels of choice and your solution is to limit the liberty of a party in the chain of your own choosing.
 
Well, it would seem to be that he's boycotting rather than arguing for statutory change? Which is fine I would say. We'd be more than happy to ship and sell non-Halal beef from over here. We're even pretty darn good at it. Lots of choices on our marketplace?
 
Read what I found out about Kosher in Australia. The fee is yearly and it basically next to nothing in comparison to the fees charged for Halal food. Did you not read the MUI statement that the money raised from Halal has to go to paying for Islamic schools and mosques?
How dare Indonesian Muslims try to raise the standard of living for Muslim children and adults living in Australia. I'm sure the rabbis who charge fees for certifying food would never do anything so dastardly as donating part of the proceeds to their own synagogues or Jewish schools.

And, again, you quoted a price without any actual corroboration or information regarding what it was actually for.
 
Well, it would seem to be that he's boycotting rather than arguing for statutory change? Which is fine I would say. We'd be more than happy to ship and sell non-Halal beef from over here. We're even pretty darn good at it. Lots of choices on our marketplace?
I agree that a boycott is fine. Boycott away. I was responding more to the carpet of CH's posts (where he is using the force) than the drapes of his thread title.
 
Well, it would seem to be that he's boycotting rather than arguing for statutory change? Which is fine I would say.

It's more than fine, to my mind. It's completely okay to boycott a company whose practices you find unethical. In fact, I think it's okay to be loud regarding your objections. Not just okay, but even recommended.

And, honestly, if someone disagrees with the practices of a local company and their international dealings, it's quite okay to agitate for legislation forbidding that practice. I don't think that there's a problem with insisting that a company comply with our local ethical standards, especially if they want to do business in our countries. If their behaviour is obviously unethical, then we have an onus to fight that behaviour using our legal resources.
 
I suppose it is a lot more work to put a new spin on one's carpet. Though I have to admit I don't much understand the infatuation with hardwood flooring these days. So much maintenance and cleaning required. Gets junky with age. I mean, it's just totally not that much work to vacuum every now and then, is it?
 
The fact of the matter is who is Jesus. According to Islam he is a just a prophet. According to the Bible, he is God and our saviour.

Well, yes. Neither of us needs to tell the other that Christianity reveres Christ Jesus as the Son of God. The point is rather that all the Abrahamic faiths acknowledge and adore one supreme and infinite God (if I might quote a particular text), even if our specific intepretations of him vary wildly.
 
Well, yes. Neither of us needs to tell the other that Christianity reveres Christ Jesus as the Son of God. The point is rather that all the Abrahamic faiths acknowledge and adore one supreme and infinite God (if I might quote a particular text), even if our specific intepretations of him vary wildly.

It is not fair to brand all monotheistic religions as worshiping the same God merely because they've each invented the "one almight God" paradigm.
 
I don't believe that there are any monotheistic religions that don't involve the God of Abraham. Feel free to correct me.
 
I don't believe that there are any monotheistic religions that don't involve the God of Abraham. Feel free to correct me.

Zoroastrianism, Akenatism, Tengriism, I can continue on for a while. You can even include Hinduism if you believe multiple gods are simply expressions of the one god, as a lot of Hindus do.

Judaism, Christianity and Islam are however grouped together as Abrahamic religions.
 
I don't believe that there are any monotheistic religions that don't involve the God of Abraham. Feel free to correct me.

The point is rather that all the Abrahamic faiths acknowledge and adore one supreme and infinite God

Your phrasing implies that because the god that Abrahaic faiths worships is singular (i.e. monotheistic) and supreme and infinite, that they are worshiping the same god. I could find you other singular, supreme and infinite gods that you would have an easier time accepting as not the same as the Christian one or the Muslim one.

EDIT: Ninja'd above.
 
The Muslim god is as similar to the Jewish one as the Christian one is. They all have far more similarities than they do differences because they are all based on the same mythology.
 
It's more than fine, to my mind. It's completely okay to boycott a company whose practices you find unethical. In fact, I think it's okay to be loud regarding your objections. Not just okay, but even recommended.

And, honestly, if someone disagrees with the practices of a local company and their international dealings, it's quite okay to agitate for legislation forbidding that practice. I don't think that there's a problem with insisting that a company comply with our local ethical standards, especially if they want to do business in our countries. If their behaviour is obviously unethical, then we have an onus to fight that behaviour using our legal resources.

/thread

c_h has the right to vocally boycott a company because of what he perceives as unethical practices

Indonesia(ns) have the right to vocally agitate for the imposition of what they perceive as ethical standards for products entering into their country.

Slaughterhouses have the right to provide service for whomever's business they deem more valuable.
 
Just read the above p0st for the Muslim view.

This is what the Bible says.
Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Isaiah 9:6,7 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

Matthew 3:16,17 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

This doesn't really help me out. You seemed to be suggesting that the three religions couldn't possibly be worshipping the same God if they held inconsistent views on Her. If A thinks B has a son, but C thinks B doesn't have a son, that doesn't mean that A & C aren't both talking about B. It just means that at least one of them is wrong.
 
Yeah, as an atheist, I can think of them as obviously separate theoretical constructs with just a lot of overlap. Muslims give God features that Christians don't, and since both faith 'defines' their gods, that's just fine.

If I believed in either entity, then it would be simpler (and probably more correct) to say they both worship the same god, but that there're a series of mistakes being made in their conceptions. I mean, I love my aunt despite the fact that she had an affair. My uncle loves her, not knowing that she did. We both love the same person. But that requires her existence.
 
It just means that at least one of them is wrong.

Or, since you are talking about human understanding of God quite possibly both are wrong and both are right - but enough people have crawled too far up their own assess to care much about the peskier problems of theology.
 
Whilst I would understandably be somewhat disappointed if the true nature of the Divine is revealed to be different to what I was brought up to believe, I don't for one minute believe that the unfathomable extent of God is circumscribed purely by what I believe. To think so would be distinctly onanistic.

Zoroastrianism, Akenatism, Tengriism, I can continue on for a while. You can even include Hinduism if you believe multiple gods are simply expressions of the one god, as a lot of Hindus do.

Google returns your post as the sole example of "Akenatism". I was also under the impression that Zoroastrianism was actually dualistic, with a great struggle between Wisdom and Destruction. Tengriism certainly isn't monotheistic in the usual sense of the term.
 
Google returns your post as the sole example of "Akenatism". I was also under the impression that Zoroastrianism was actually dualistic, with a great struggle between Wisdom and Destruction. Tengriism certainly isn't monotheistic in the usual sense of the term.

With Akenatism I actually mean the religious beliefs of this fellow.

While it's true that Zoroastrianism is dualistic, this is not mutually exclusive to monotheism. Furthermore, what would you consider as not being montheistic "in the usual sense of the term"? Even Judaism wasn't properly monotheistic until the Ancient Hebrews were influenced by... Zoroastrians!
 
Back
Top Bottom