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I'm mystified by it. I mean, I've tried it, and I'm still mystified. There's nothing objectionable in there, but at no point when I was eating it was I like, "Man the waffles really tie the fried chicken together." Or, "Wow, the one thing fried chicken was missing all these years was pancake syrup!"

I've started reading Farm Boy's posts in the Dude's voice, and it is hilarious.
 
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No more than an accusation of racism. But who's being serious here? You or me?

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Traitorfish making threads highly entertaining, as usual.
edit: And I see that eight people have opted for "Gamma positive" while only I have opted for "Gamma negative". WAKE UP PEOPLE YOU ARE LYING TO YOURSELVES.

edit2: Here's a thought, has anybody else noticed that these categories map pretty well onto social class? Alpha as bourgeois, Beta as commercial petty bourgeois, Gamma as professional petty bourgeois, Delta as proletariat and Omega as lumpenproletariat. And I don't think that's just an analogy, either, I think that may be what these categories are actually about. Whoever designed this list isn't just listing masculine archteypes, he's presenting a legitimising ideology for capitalism. Capitalist social hierarchies re-framed in the logic of the wolf pack, and thereby legitimised as natural and inevitable. Something to consider.

edit3: Further elaborations, probably more tenuous. Alpha positive as the productive bourgeois, masterful but conscientious. Alpha negative as finance bourgeoisie, regarded warily because their rapaciousness brings the whole system of masculinity/social class into question. Beta positive as the loyal petty bourgeois, the idealised "small business" who can aspire to bourgeois status. Beta negative as the disloyal petty bourgeois, downwardly mobile and prone to Poujadism. Gamma positive as the loyal intelligentsia, aloof from the day-to-day affairs of capitalism but both dependent on it and willing to sanction it philosophically. Gamma negative as the disloyal intelligentsia, Jacobin lawyers writing angry tracts from their garrets, contemptible but dangerous. (Note that while other strata are described with more disdain, none are described with more venom.) Delta positive as the loyal worker, lacking talent or intelligence but doing their best. Delta negative as the disloyal worker, a shirker, characterised by a Marxian refusal to acknowledge the natural right of his superiors to their superiority. Omega positive, the passive lumpenproletariat, the dregs of society but knowing their place. Omega negative, the criminal lumpenproletariat, marginal but disobedient, ignorant of the rightfulness of their lowly status and prone to disrupting the whole system through antisocial behaviour.

The genius of this is that by placing both destructive capital and dissenting subalterns into the same category of "negative", the logic achieves a sort of pseudo-progressivism, perhaps even pseudo-socialism, as the system (masculinity/capitalism) becomes your best defence against the system itself. Just as the fratbro, the emo and the Nazi-furry represent toxic masculinities, so Wall Street, Occupy Wall Street and somebody mugging you on Wall Street represent a sort of toxic capitalism, self-interest without respect for social structures. There is nothing outside of the system, outside of the social order preordained by God and/or Nature, there is only loyalty and disloyalty to that order. As the graphic works out as an appeal to a dignified, traditional masculinity, in which the possibility of achieving masculine virtue and the good nature of the virtuous binds event he lower categories of male to the system of masculinity, so it works out as an appeal to a corporatist capitalism, in which the possibility of social advancement by the meritorious and the beneficence of the bourgeoisie keep the subaltern classes invested. And perhaps most importantly, all this is presented as a function of individual character and individual effort, with appeals to circumstance to explain either one's own failure or another success specifically marked out as a character flaw, perhaps the greatest flaw of all. Criticism of the existing system is self-invalidating, because only losers and ingrates don't like the system.

It's possible that I'm over-thinking it. I'm certainly thinking about it more than whoever constructed the graphic. But I don't think I'm wrong.
 
For the record, that wasn't actually an anarchist flag, it was the flag of the Ukranian Insurgent Army, a far-right partisan group that operated during the Second World War. The guys flying it are probably from the Right Sector group, who use a variation as their own flag.
 
So Paradox used that flag for rebels, for like, all eternity while convincing us it's anarchists?
 
That is the 'Rebel Scum' flag, and they aren't anarchist (i suppose the army leader is their Arche). Ultimately they develop into their own nation or join some other country and have a new boot stamping on their face :)
 
This was the flag used by the Spanish anarchist syndicate CNT, founded 1910. It is thus a symbol of anarchism by association at least here. At first though, it was Heracles fighting the Nemean lion.
Spoiler :
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Spoiler flag blether :
So Paradox used that flag for rebels, for like, all eternity while convincing us it's anarchists?
It depends on context. In Ukraine, the flag connotes the UIA, in Nicuragua, the same flag is associated with the left-wing Sandinistas.

This was the flag used by the Spanish anarchist syndicate CNT, founded 1910. It is thus a symbol of anarchism by association at least here. At first though, it was Heracles fighting the Nemean lion.
Spoiler :
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Different flag. The one seen in Ukraine is bisected horizontally with black on the bottom, the CNT flag is bisected diagonally with black on top. (In fairness anarchists aren't terribly consistent about the colour placement, but as a general rule they'll bisect diagonally, with a red edge on the left and a black edge on the right.) It's a reasonable enough mistake to make, at any rate, because the UIA flag is kinda obscure, but I felt obliged to point out that the pictured chappies were fascists, not anarchists.
 
Yeah, I just went to the original thread and saw it. Never meant to say they are the same, though.
 
Well, TIL.... :D
 
It did that three posts ago. :)
 
It's not a serial thread. Can we now focus on quotes instead of discussion?
 
Why not a serial thread? Lock this one down and have Joan start a new one. In fact, Joan, why not just start the new one to force the issue?
 
Because if this is about memorable uotes indeed, they should not be discarded, nor taken lightly.
 
I must say I am with Takhisis here. It wouldn't make much sense to have a serial thread off a 'best quotes on CFC' thread.
 
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