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Capto Iugulum: 1920 - 1939

Discussion in 'Never Ending Stories' started by EQandcivfanatic, Oct 17, 2012.

  1. The Farow

    The Farow NESer

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    We are more than happy to restart terms with the United Kingdom on a friendly note. If you wish to move forward on opening economic ties we are more than willing to negotiate.

    OCC: Sorry, I must of missed your first post.
     
  2. talonschild

    talonschild Drive-By NESer

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    General Yehao laments that China does not trade with Brazil, for he finds the current embargo situation faintly amusing and would partake.
     
  3. Luckymoose

    Luckymoose The World is Mine

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    There is not a single combat personnel from Brazil taking part in any war in Africa. The only soldiers we had were in Angola, and have been withdrawn. You should get your facts straight. There has been no attacks on the Kongo or any other colonial power by our forces. However, the Russian Empire continues to support rebel movements in the British Empire, one of our longest friends in the world, without so much as batting an eyelash. Brazil finds the hypocrisy of the Russian government comical.

    Providing loans to governments we recognize is not an act of war, it is an act of friendship. We do not dictate to them how to spend their money, only that it be repaid as contracted. We fear not the wrath of puny Europeans. Munich supports an Ultranationalist government, but they do not recognize the nationalist cries of the African people? Russia wails like a babe at the Kongo's natural decline, pointing fingers everywhere but Haroldsholm, while simultaneously doing that exact thing in the British colonies.

    Brazil will never stand down from aiding those free peoples of Africa, no matter the consequences. The sun is setting on European Imperialism of this nature, only the efforts of Britain are commendable. So wage your economic war against us, it matters not. Brazil does not trade with Proletarists, and our relations with Germany and Italy have been sour for a decade, so your petty attempts at policing the world under your tyrannical boot will fail.

    Go back to your northern palaces and weep at your demise.
     
  4. qoou

    qoou Emperor

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    So what? Africa is an economic backwater. Hell, the current unrest in Africa might've actually positively impacted the global economy with all the economic investment that the warring parties have thrown at that undeveloped waste of land (and by "impacted," I mean the kind of impact a drop of water would have on the ocean).

    Brazil is the largest economy of the Western hemisphere, a major resource producer (providing the world with most of its rubber, for one), and possesses an industrial sector that is currently booming like no other. The countries that have so far decided to slit their own rubber veins are all heavily industrialized nations, many of them depending heavily on Brazilian products.

    Comparing the two situations is absurd.


    Other than that, all these actions you accuse Brazil of, they have publicly admitted themselves. If you feel so strongly about them, by all means, declare war on Brazil. Colombia would welcome the economic bubble that war tends to create, as well as all the commerce that post-war rebuilding relies on. Your current actions, apart from being absurdly suicidal, actively hurt Colombia's economy. How did you expect us to react, with a pat on the back?


    OOC: If we were to use completely IC language, I would be using Spanish right now. I'd rather not go learn a new language for the sake of a NES.
     
  5. Circuit

    Circuit Writing Letters

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    This feud between the Europeans and the South Americans disturbs us. We are especially concerned by the major disruptions to trade that are likewise going to take effect. Our economy will suffer should action not be taken. Our first action will be to mitigate some of the major trade disruptions with lowering the user fees of the Suez Canal. We may pursue further action as we see fit.

    We really dislike the feud between Europe and South America, and we will be hosting summits on how to restore goodwill between South American and Europe and the two major belligerents in this feud, Brazil and Germany, both of whom the United Kingdom would like to maintain good relations. Any academics and foreign policy experts are welcome to attend and even participate in our summits.
     
  6. bestshot9

    bestshot9 Monkey Sharpshooter

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    If Brazil was not so adamant about interfering with affairs with nations it has no reason to interfere with we would not have this problem right now. As it stands, the majority of European nations are content to let the Americas deal with their own problems, whereas the Brazilians feel the urge to stick their noses into strictly European affairs that do not require nor want Brazil to mingle in. If you can convince Brazil, which claims to be a long time ally of your nation, to promise to not interfere in doings of the Eastern Hemisphere, certainly the majority of European nations would agree to withdraw their embargoes, however seeing as this is impossible, it seems this series of summits are doomed to failure.
     
  7. Luckymoose

    Luckymoose The World is Mine

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    It is entirely Germany that is pushing this economic catastrophe on the world. Since Britain chose Germany over Brazil, it is time for Britain to rein Germany in. Brazil is content to watch the European economy collapse in on itself in the meantime.

    More importantly, the Russian attempts to destabilize your colonial holdings is worrying. We offer the services of our Federal Intelligence Agency in assisting your agencies in finding out these Russia spies.

    TO: Rome
    FROM: Brazil


    Says the alliance system that is actively attempting to break up other colonial empires and invade African governments. Africans wanted our aid in forming new governments, we gave it. They are not to be kicked around by your nations any longer. Absolutism is the foulest form of government known to man.
     
  8. TheLizardKing

    TheLizardKing Let's talk Michelle.

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    And Brazil needs to say sorry.
     
  9. Jehoshua

    Jehoshua Catholic

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    DECRETUM HEIROSOLYMITANUM

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    Article I: The Holy See decrees that immigration by christians from Europe, Egypt and the Middle East to the Holy Land, favouring Eastern and Latin Catholics but applying also to Oriental Schismatics, shall be permitted, and that the state shall facilitate such immigration.

    Article II: The Holy See decrees that Jewish immigration to the Holy Land shall be permitted under appropriate monitoring.

    Article III: A portion of the Morroccan Quarter of Jerusalem shall be demolished to establish a square upon the Western Wall to facilitate Jewish pilgrims to the Holy City and end the public hazard presented by current circumstances, residents shall have the choice to return to the Spanish Maghreb or to accept resettlment elsewhere in Jerusalem. Upon rabbinical advice, the temple mount shall remain off limits to jews to avoid jews unintentionally breaking their own law.

    Article IV: The Shrine at the Cave of the Patriarchs, second holiest site in the jewish religion henceforth shall be open to Jews in addition to muslims, ending the ancient prohibition that jews can only approach up to the seventh step up to the shrine.

    Article V: The Holy See permits the Samaritan community the use of Mount Gerizim, and the property rights to the sight of their ancient temple, along with the permission to rebuild it when they so deem it appropriate to do so.

    Article VI: In consideration of the public rejection of the Papal States sovereignty over the Holy Land by the Arab Brotherhood, the Holy See decrees that membership of this organisation is forbidden, and that suitable punishments shall apply to those who engage in acts of violence.

    Article VII: To assist in the maintanence of order against arab nationalists, the Holy See shall establish a policing force open to Jews and Christians to assist in the maintanence of the law, and the protection of civilian communities from any attempts to initiate violence. Jewish and non-catholic members of this supplementary policing force shall be exempt from the poll tax. (muslims excluded for now in consideration of a great number of members of that groups rejection of the Holy Sees legitimate administrative authority over the Holy Land.)

    Article VIII: The Holy See shall support through financial grants and facilitate the migration of arab muslims to Hedjaz, and to the holy muslim sites in that nation for those who freely choose to move to that nation.

    Article IX: All previous decrees regarding law in the Holy Land are reaffirmed and remain in force.
     
  10. Lord_Iggy

    Lord_Iggy Tsesk'ihe

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    Portugal started by invading Jamaica and overthrowing its democratic government.
     
  11. Lord of Elves

    Lord of Elves Suede-Denim Secret Police

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    The Lusitanian tyrant has always been an enemy of progress and civilization. Brazil's rank and shameful record of warmongering and aggression extends back a century, encompassing many convulsions of aggression and ill intent towards the Scandinavian state over the matter of Scandinavian Guyana, wars against the United States and Spain, as well as many heinous coups against elected governments in South America orchestrated by the Brazilian government in order ensure the accumulation of wealth by Brazilian business.

    These incidents are only within the past century; in more recent times, Brazil extorted Scandinavia and the Netherlands of their South American colonies, sunk as an act of spite a Dutch civilian ship, forced itself upon multiple European states inside and outside of the Great War and now has sought to destabilize the African continent.

    There is nothing that reminds a citizen of the Fatherland so much of his own excrement as the Emperor of Brazil.
     
  12. Luckymoose

    Luckymoose The World is Mine

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    Brazil will be releasing some records we have about this. ;)
     
  13. Crezth

    Crezth 話說天下大勢分久必合合久必分

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    lurker's comment: As long as you're comfortable doing away with the phrases left-wing, right-wing, and liberalism, amidst a host of other such things, sure thing. But I think the inhabitants of this world are creative enough to ascribe the word "terrorist" to people who use terror for political aims.
     
  14. Jehoshua

    Jehoshua Catholic

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    To: The People and Government of Occitania
    CC: The Frankish States of Poitou, Dauphine, Franco-Burgundy, Normandy and Orleans
    From: The Holy See


    The Holy See has noticed Occitania's government has promoted a French identity for the nation, with many people being opposed in favour of an occitanian identity. We would note however that such identities are not at all opposed to each other. An ideal towards united Frankish solidarity and unity fundamentally would be co-substantive with Occitan identity, with the Occitan nation being an essential (and indeed defining) part of any united French identity along with all its customs and traditions. Ergo Occitanians should consider "Frenchness" not to be opposed to Occitanian culture, but rather as an opportunity to deepen its own influence and culture through an inter-relationship with the cultures of the northern frankish states, with both influences effecting eachother in establishing a truly french identity where all parts are distinct, yet united together.

    However this, the Holy See adds, would be quite impossible if an ontological criterion is not established in common amongst the various frankish states. Any culture, in order to prosper, has rested upon common assumptions and objective ideals which inform that cultures development and socio-political life. As it stands Occitania and the frankish states at large are like leaves in a stream, floating about every which way without any objective grounding. This is clear by the very attempt to find an identity in your own nation, something that shows precisely that Occitania is not certain of itself and is not rooted to a common ideal. It is also clear in the troubles caused by anarchists in Poitou, who being divorced conceptually from an ideal of the common good turn to destructive individualism. Ergo as these situations amongst others show, unity amongst the french states is impossible at present, precisely because there is no common ontological understanding amongst the political class or in society at large that rests on anything objective. Without a common concord, your society cannot hope to secure itself in stability, or see its political life proceed serenely and with any constancy. This of course brings us to the crucial role of the Church in forming the foundations and guarantees of culture and in providing precisely the ontological and ideational foundation of which we speak.

    Catholicism, both in terms of the historical context of the region and in terms of its conceptual framework is the only sure ground for unity amongst the french states. This is so because it alone (as compared to all the novel modern ideologies that have sought to replace christianity in the way people live) provides an objective unifying truth, that orients mind and will towards constructive ends and subsists primarily in a framework that sees society as a collective and holistic totality who's members must work together towards the idea of the common good based on the virtues of charity and humility. This is quite distinct from the idea of society as a collection of competing classes, as proposed by the proletarists, or as an atomistic collection of individuals who exist without reference to the common society as liberalism does.

    As such, should the Occitanian government seek to genuinely promote unity amongst the frankish states, the Holy See, in this letter and as the guardian of the Catholic faith directs you towards the need for principled unity founded on a sure foundatino that in and of itself is confident of what it is! In the absence of a sure conception, division is the only outcome, and as is self evident that which begins in division never ends well, and indeed is likely to end in ruin. Furthermore history (and the present) makes clear the problems for any society which is turned in on itself as a "closed circle", by which we mean it is self-referential, and pitted against itself through ideological conflicts and seeing everything as conflicting, rather than as being parts of a greater whole. Something the government (and for that matter workers and all civilians of any state) should consider with regards to other policy as well.

    Therefore the Holy See, urges Occitania to, if it desires unity not only with regards to the Frankish states but also with regards to itself, to jettison firstly its egregious and immoral prohibition on political activity formed upon religious values, which has only led to a reductionistic mode taking hold in your nations politics. Secondly it should move to take steps towards establishing an ideational consensus within itself and amongst certain french states amenable to the unity of which we speak based upon the mutually consitutive cultures of the various frankish states, occitania included (we again note the division between french and occitan is a false dichotomy) based upon the only order upon which the unity you seek can be truly built, the Divine and Catholic faith.

    ~ Sec. For Relations with States.
     
  15. qoou

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    That's all very nice. Now, tell me again then, why are you trying to cause a global economic reversal? If you hate Brazil so much, declare war on them already. At least the war bubble will keep the economic wheels greased for a little while, giving the onlookers enough time to walk away from your little fight so our boots don't get stained by your blood. But if you instead decide to pull out the rug from under the entire planet's feet, and send us all into poverty via your stupidity, then you ought to expect a little backlash.


    While on the topic, Columbia supports the United Kingdom's offer to host goodwill summits. We fear that they might not be able to achieve very much at this point, but at least they'll help us identify which of the world's governments remain sane.
     
  16. Immaculate

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    You must be an academic. No one else writes like that.
     
  17. talonschild

    talonschild Drive-By NESer

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    China asks:

    What, precisely, are the European powers doing that constitutes "[pulling] out the rug from under the entire planet's feet" in Colombia's eyes? Surely not just the embargo on Brazil - Brazil is not that important; no one is. But, at a glance, I see nothing else.
     
  18. Jehoshua

    Jehoshua Catholic

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    To the Government of Italy
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    The Holy See informs the Government of Italy that the Holy Father shall be engaging in a pastoral visit (not a state visit to Italy) to the Romagna, to Florence and to Savoy Piedmont in order to strengthen the faithful, proclaim Catholic teaching pertinent to Italy's circumstance, and support and console the people who still suffer due to the aftermath of the war with the Confederation.

    A visit to Taranto was desired by the Holy See, but in consideration of recent instability in that area, the Curia has concluded that such a visit would best be delayed to another time, perhaps pending a state visit to the government in Naples.

    ~ Sec. Relations with States.
     
  19. Nailix

    Nailix Damn!

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    @EQ How come the Papal States don't have the Aichi Ki-8 fighter? I shared it with them.

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    We would greatly accept a papal visit during these dark times for our nation.
     
  20. J.K. Stockholme

    J.K. Stockholme Right Opposition

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    OOC: yay the pope noticed me. btw, Jehoshua, I recall Normandy is protestant, so it might not be well received there.

    From the Kingdom of Occitania
    To the Holy See


    Your examination of the false dichotomy of Occitanian and French culture could not be more accurate. Our government is in strong agreement that there is greater richness in Occitanian culture as integral to French culture. Also, your holiness must understand there are great transitions happening, and turbulence in the politics of the French states is to be expected; to this, we concur the course of action is to collaborate to strengthen the ties between the French populaces, so we have a determined direction for growth into the future.

    Regarding the constitution on religious parties and the two houses, we should explain the rules of the constitution require our upper chamber have a number of designated positions for prelates, available exclusively to major religious leaders in Occitania. The Party of Order has no intention of undertaking the potentially destabilizing reform changes necessary to our constitution to bring religious parties in to existence when all members of parliament are free to debate their opinions with devout reasoning or inspiration, and several seats are designated for strictly religious analysis as well. Nonetheless, we do kindly receive your recommendations on our predominantly Catholic country.

    ~ the office of Crispin Vidal
     

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