SamSniped
DJ Goodboye
OOC: Jonathan Hayes? Huh. That's the name of the president in a book I am reading.
Capto Iugulum
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Quisani
Gaming Person
TO: Jacksonia
From: The Empire of Japan
Hail new sovereign state! In this time of change up in your lands, we wish to offer our goodwill and support to your nation during this time. At this time, we wish to offer the both of you lucrative trading deal. We await your word.
TO: THE WORLD
FROM: JAPAN
The Kingdom of Hawaii shall be under receive the status of Protectorate in the eyes of Japan and the Emperor. Any aggression toward this new nation will be regarded as aggression towards Japan. That is all.
TO: The Federal Government of the United States
FROM: Japan
We are sorry to hear about the death of President Miller and the vice president. However, it clear that you have lost the mandate to rule over your lands. We now reject any claims to territory your nation may have held in the Pacific and now assert our authority over them.
TO: Scottison
FROM: Japan
Your men in the past have show themselves to be irrationally aggressive towards the Japanese Department of Aisuyochi. Now you have formed amongst yourselves a republic of aggressors. Since the United States is no more, you have nothing to prevent us from striking at your attempts to threaten the Japanese Empire. We suggest that you brush up on Japanese or make passage to countries where you are not a threat.
TO: Florida
FROM: Japan
We acknowledge your sovereignty and shall respect it. We wish to offer you a economic agreement. What do you say?
From: The Empire of Japan
Hail new sovereign state! In this time of change up in your lands, we wish to offer our goodwill and support to your nation during this time. At this time, we wish to offer the both of you lucrative trading deal. We await your word.
TO: THE WORLD
FROM: JAPAN
The Kingdom of Hawaii shall be under receive the status of Protectorate in the eyes of Japan and the Emperor. Any aggression toward this new nation will be regarded as aggression towards Japan. That is all.
TO: The Federal Government of the United States
FROM: Japan
We are sorry to hear about the death of President Miller and the vice president. However, it clear that you have lost the mandate to rule over your lands. We now reject any claims to territory your nation may have held in the Pacific and now assert our authority over them.
TO: Scottison
FROM: Japan
Your men in the past have show themselves to be irrationally aggressive towards the Japanese Department of Aisuyochi. Now you have formed amongst yourselves a republic of aggressors. Since the United States is no more, you have nothing to prevent us from striking at your attempts to threaten the Japanese Empire. We suggest that you brush up on Japanese or make passage to countries where you are not a threat.
TO: Florida
FROM: Japan
We acknowledge your sovereignty and shall respect it. We wish to offer you a economic agreement. What do you say?
ChiefDesigner
Sunset Emperor
- Joined
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- Messages
- 761
What, to the American slave, was your 2nd of July? I answer: a day that revealed to him, more than all other days in the year, the gross injustice and cruelly to which he is the constant victim.
To him, your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty, an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your denunciations of tyrants a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation on the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than were the people of these United States.
Go where you may; search where you will; lay your facts by the side of the everyday practices of that dead nation, and you will say with me, that, for revolting barbarity, America hath reigned without rival.
Do not mourn the death of America, that hypocrite of nations. Seize from its withered hands that freedom which hath been denied to you. Build upon its foundations a city upon a hill and a light unto the nations, one which has as its aim that revolutionary ideal--that all men are created equal.
To him, your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty, an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your denunciations of tyrants a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation on the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than were the people of these United States.
Go where you may; search where you will; lay your facts by the side of the everyday practices of that dead nation, and you will say with me, that, for revolting barbarity, America hath reigned without rival.
Do not mourn the death of America, that hypocrite of nations. Seize from its withered hands that freedom which hath been denied to you. Build upon its foundations a city upon a hill and a light unto the nations, one which has as its aim that revolutionary ideal--that all men are created equal.
-The Works of Chairman Scipio, "Second of July"
Circuit
Writing Letters
To: Japan
From: Florida
We would greatly appreciate an economic agreement. We accept, and hope for future dealings with the benevolent Japanese Empire.
MOST IMPORTANT FOR NEWCOMERS: Send in orders in order to actually gain control of your claimed nations. I cannot stress how important this is.
I will not be responding to diplomacy for any of the new American factions, with sole exception of Hawaii, until Saturday, due to the interest from other groups. This is in order to allow maximum freedom for any new players in determining their foreign and domestic policies. Similarly, if anyone tells you, "But EQ agreed to this for _____ American faction," they are filthy liar, and probably a criminal trying to steal your identity through your computer.
@erez87: The country in California is the state of Jacksonia.
@Mickzter97: Yes, the techs were shared with that country, though I wouldn't pretend to be so innocent, as it's quite obvious that you did it now.
@Azale, Matt0088, and ChiefDesigner: Welcome aboard.
To: Florida
From: Aztlan
We accept your proposal of peace and congratulate you for ousting the tyrants who oppressed all of us in their madness. Furthermore, we recognize your new government as legitimate and hope that you will extend us the same courtesy.
To: World
From: Occitania
We hereby sign the new agreement establishing friendship and alliance with the Franco-Burgundian Confederation, but we hope that they will answer the calls of their people regardless and hold a plebiscite for the fate of the Kingdom of Piedmont.
To: Japan
From: Hawaii
We accept the status as a protectorate of Japan and look forward to future amicable relations and trading rights.
Whelp, been playing Fallout: New Vegas a little bit and now I keep saying things like BIG MOUNTAIN and SCIENCE. For those of you who suffer from old world blues like myself, you'll understand. It seems fairly appropriate to reference that with this particular post which is to address some various concerns and questions, of a COMPLEX NATURE, which have been brought up about the technology tree. I'll do my best to answer the questions I've received and to put everyone on the same page regarding the future of technology in the NES and the role it plays. For those who don't care, you are excused from the rest of this post. The rest of you PREPARE for KNOWLEDGE.
First of all, let's cover what's happening now. As you may have noticed or participated in, there have been a number of collaborative efforts in researching and distributing technologies from the tree. Now, while I did expect this to a limited degree, I did not foresee how out of control it would spin. Originally, the purpose of 90% of the techs on the overall researchable was to act as fairly optional stuff for the wealthier powers. From this point, the larger powers would distribute the technologies in the form of updated designs and construction rights for various equipment. After all, you may notice that none of the designs actually require a tech to be built. They CAN and SHOULD be shared, or preferably sold, regardless of what techs the buyer has. Now, I realize where the desire for forming these collaborative attempts come from. It makes designs cheaper and after all, it's frightening to have a tech gap, thanks to the training we've received from civilization games. Right now, I am disabusing you of the notion that your nation will cease to exist if you don't have the latest tech.
Firstly, for most of you, you can't probably even afford the ships that would come out of getting any of the naval technologies, which should be obviously at a mere glance at the newest naval designs. REAL navies are for those with the cash to maintain and upgrade them, and not for every wannabe with a few islands to their name. Navies historically are a very expensive endeavor, far more than armies, otherwise everyone would have one. I hope that most of you will consider naval techs as fairly useless for you, unless you legitimately have an empire or island nation to protect. Otherwise, you can be relatively certain that there are far better things to spend your money on.
Secondly, having the coolest small arms or artillery will not win you a war. More important than how good your weapons are is how good your army is. Yes, the small arms techs give boost to doctrine, but they are not decisive. You can have the coolest gadgets in the world, but if you suck at using them, they don't really matter. Therefore, for those of you scared about being slaughtered by people with laser guns, stop worrying. For one, there is an approaching cap on how far any technology can go, and frankly, it's not decisive if someone else has it. You'll either be a competent commander or you won't, but the weapons you have won't decide the war you're fighting.
Thirdly, and most importantly: NONE of the techs are decisive. You will NOT die based on the merits of where you are on the tech tree alone. Admittedly, some technologies are more important than others, but the truly important ones such as Militarization of Aircraft have the tendency to disseminate regardless. Even the unimportant ones, when enough of the world has acquired it, will be spread out among the masses. Focus on the techs which will actually benefit you, and if you're a wealthy bastard, maybe you can go for those luxury techs, to give you a little extra edge. Regardless though, a competent commander can always defeat an incompetent commander, and frankly, with the setup, there's no risk (at the moment) that your army will be destroyed by British or Russian soldiers powered up like Iron Man. Oh, and a number of techs have actually been devised as traps to make people waste their resources out of my own curious and bastardly nature, while still being quasi-valid. Naturally, I won't be telling you which is a trap, and which isn't, just be glad that you have the knowledge that some techs don't lead to awesome weapons of awesomeness, a luxury historical regimes never had.
The technology tree is only here as the beginning steps towards the fancy ideas and research that governments truly began to undertake in the early twentieth century. Numerous governments before, during , and after the Second World War had a variety of secret programs and endeavors, some of which were dead ends, and others which led to a massive technological advantage. Remember that bit where I said none of the techs on the tree will be decisive? None of that applies for the special research projects. Special Research Projects will be a special kind of tech, which will be made available through a Private Message sent from me to you. The SRP will be outlined to what it could accomplish in the format of a letter from a noted intellectual. From there, they will ask for money which must be dedicated each year, until they complete the project. There is no assurance that this money will actually lead to a completed project, as some ideas may be flawed, despite their logical presentation. If you're patient and lucky enough for the SRP to bear fruit, you will receive things like new units, and weapons which could very well alter the course of any war. Of course you could also create a catastrophe that destroys the very fabric of the universe. That would be fun.
Now, without spoiling what they actually are, there are over fifty Special Research Projects which can emerge for various nations between now and 2100 AD. Some are sleek and sexy, while some may seem mundane to the 21st century world. Now, for the purposes of this post, I'll use the atomic bomb project as an example. Now, the qualifications I mention may or may not be the actual ones that apply (HINT: They're not). Regardless, I now hope to use the atom bomb as an example of how the SRP works and how it is opened up to the average player. All SRPs have a certain set of conditions, which must be met in order to result in the sending of the opening letter to a particular player. Let's say that for example, the atomic bomb would ONLY be provided to a player that has paid over 100% of the recommended Education spending for at least consecutive ten years. When this condition has been met by a player, there may be an event in the update hinting at this accomplishment, while the player himself will receive the PM stated the costs required for an atomic program. Fast forward a couple of years, and other players with less (but still substantial) educational investment would begin receiving letters, or perhaps those with an effective spy service in the initial nation. Ultimately, after several years of spending into the SRP in the player's orders, the project bears fruit, and the player can begin building a nuclear arsenal.
I hope that has clarified the basics of how the more advanced technologies will work in upcoming years. There will still be techs on the tech tree, but I warn you, at the current rate of player collaboration, that will soon run out. New techs will be added to the tree when they become viable from civilian or SRP advancements. The space race will also have its own mechanics, but will cross those streams when we get to it.
I will not be responding to diplomacy for any of the new American factions, with sole exception of Hawaii, until Saturday, due to the interest from other groups. This is in order to allow maximum freedom for any new players in determining their foreign and domestic policies. Similarly, if anyone tells you, "But EQ agreed to this for _____ American faction," they are filthy liar, and probably a criminal trying to steal your identity through your computer.
@erez87: The country in California is the state of Jacksonia.
@Mickzter97: Yes, the techs were shared with that country, though I wouldn't pretend to be so innocent, as it's quite obvious that you did it now.
@Azale, Matt0088, and ChiefDesigner: Welcome aboard.
To: Florida
From: Aztlan
We accept your proposal of peace and congratulate you for ousting the tyrants who oppressed all of us in their madness. Furthermore, we recognize your new government as legitimate and hope that you will extend us the same courtesy.
To: World
From: Occitania
We hereby sign the new agreement establishing friendship and alliance with the Franco-Burgundian Confederation, but we hope that they will answer the calls of their people regardless and hold a plebiscite for the fate of the Kingdom of Piedmont.
To: Japan
From: Hawaii
We accept the status as a protectorate of Japan and look forward to future amicable relations and trading rights.
The Important Bit: TECHNOLOGY and YOU!
Whelp, been playing Fallout: New Vegas a little bit and now I keep saying things like BIG MOUNTAIN and SCIENCE. For those of you who suffer from old world blues like myself, you'll understand. It seems fairly appropriate to reference that with this particular post which is to address some various concerns and questions, of a COMPLEX NATURE, which have been brought up about the technology tree. I'll do my best to answer the questions I've received and to put everyone on the same page regarding the future of technology in the NES and the role it plays. For those who don't care, you are excused from the rest of this post. The rest of you PREPARE for KNOWLEDGE.
The Technology Tree
First of all, let's cover what's happening now. As you may have noticed or participated in, there have been a number of collaborative efforts in researching and distributing technologies from the tree. Now, while I did expect this to a limited degree, I did not foresee how out of control it would spin. Originally, the purpose of 90% of the techs on the overall researchable was to act as fairly optional stuff for the wealthier powers. From this point, the larger powers would distribute the technologies in the form of updated designs and construction rights for various equipment. After all, you may notice that none of the designs actually require a tech to be built. They CAN and SHOULD be shared, or preferably sold, regardless of what techs the buyer has. Now, I realize where the desire for forming these collaborative attempts come from. It makes designs cheaper and after all, it's frightening to have a tech gap, thanks to the training we've received from civilization games. Right now, I am disabusing you of the notion that your nation will cease to exist if you don't have the latest tech.
Firstly, for most of you, you can't probably even afford the ships that would come out of getting any of the naval technologies, which should be obviously at a mere glance at the newest naval designs. REAL navies are for those with the cash to maintain and upgrade them, and not for every wannabe with a few islands to their name. Navies historically are a very expensive endeavor, far more than armies, otherwise everyone would have one. I hope that most of you will consider naval techs as fairly useless for you, unless you legitimately have an empire or island nation to protect. Otherwise, you can be relatively certain that there are far better things to spend your money on.
Secondly, having the coolest small arms or artillery will not win you a war. More important than how good your weapons are is how good your army is. Yes, the small arms techs give boost to doctrine, but they are not decisive. You can have the coolest gadgets in the world, but if you suck at using them, they don't really matter. Therefore, for those of you scared about being slaughtered by people with laser guns, stop worrying. For one, there is an approaching cap on how far any technology can go, and frankly, it's not decisive if someone else has it. You'll either be a competent commander or you won't, but the weapons you have won't decide the war you're fighting.
Thirdly, and most importantly: NONE of the techs are decisive. You will NOT die based on the merits of where you are on the tech tree alone. Admittedly, some technologies are more important than others, but the truly important ones such as Militarization of Aircraft have the tendency to disseminate regardless. Even the unimportant ones, when enough of the world has acquired it, will be spread out among the masses. Focus on the techs which will actually benefit you, and if you're a wealthy bastard, maybe you can go for those luxury techs, to give you a little extra edge. Regardless though, a competent commander can always defeat an incompetent commander, and frankly, with the setup, there's no risk (at the moment) that your army will be destroyed by British or Russian soldiers powered up like Iron Man. Oh, and a number of techs have actually been devised as traps to make people waste their resources out of my own curious and bastardly nature, while still being quasi-valid. Naturally, I won't be telling you which is a trap, and which isn't, just be glad that you have the knowledge that some techs don't lead to awesome weapons of awesomeness, a luxury historical regimes never had.
The WORLD of TOMORROW
The technology tree is only here as the beginning steps towards the fancy ideas and research that governments truly began to undertake in the early twentieth century. Numerous governments before, during , and after the Second World War had a variety of secret programs and endeavors, some of which were dead ends, and others which led to a massive technological advantage. Remember that bit where I said none of the techs on the tree will be decisive? None of that applies for the special research projects. Special Research Projects will be a special kind of tech, which will be made available through a Private Message sent from me to you. The SRP will be outlined to what it could accomplish in the format of a letter from a noted intellectual. From there, they will ask for money which must be dedicated each year, until they complete the project. There is no assurance that this money will actually lead to a completed project, as some ideas may be flawed, despite their logical presentation. If you're patient and lucky enough for the SRP to bear fruit, you will receive things like new units, and weapons which could very well alter the course of any war. Of course you could also create a catastrophe that destroys the very fabric of the universe. That would be fun.
Now, without spoiling what they actually are, there are over fifty Special Research Projects which can emerge for various nations between now and 2100 AD. Some are sleek and sexy, while some may seem mundane to the 21st century world. Now, for the purposes of this post, I'll use the atomic bomb project as an example. Now, the qualifications I mention may or may not be the actual ones that apply (HINT: They're not). Regardless, I now hope to use the atom bomb as an example of how the SRP works and how it is opened up to the average player. All SRPs have a certain set of conditions, which must be met in order to result in the sending of the opening letter to a particular player. Let's say that for example, the atomic bomb would ONLY be provided to a player that has paid over 100% of the recommended Education spending for at least consecutive ten years. When this condition has been met by a player, there may be an event in the update hinting at this accomplishment, while the player himself will receive the PM stated the costs required for an atomic program. Fast forward a couple of years, and other players with less (but still substantial) educational investment would begin receiving letters, or perhaps those with an effective spy service in the initial nation. Ultimately, after several years of spending into the SRP in the player's orders, the project bears fruit, and the player can begin building a nuclear arsenal.
I hope that has clarified the basics of how the more advanced technologies will work in upcoming years. There will still be techs on the tech tree, but I warn you, at the current rate of player collaboration, that will soon run out. New techs will be added to the tree when they become viable from civilian or SRP advancements. The space race will also have its own mechanics, but will cross those streams when we get to it.
The German Federation is hereby pleased to announce the Munich-Kyoto-Madrid Phalanx between the German Federation and the Empire of Japan, with invitations extended to the Arabian Empire, the Kingdom of Italy, The Republic of Hawaii, and Cechy-Moravia.
The Phalanx Powers hereby agree to the following
1. A Pact of Alliance to help further the political aims of the Phalanx Powers
2. Technological sharing between the Phalanx Powers
3. An Economic agreement will be established to facilate trade between the Phalanx Powers
Signed,
Chancellor Ludwig Fechner of the German Federation
The Phalanx Powers hereby agree to the following
1. A Pact of Alliance to help further the political aims of the Phalanx Powers
2. Technological sharing between the Phalanx Powers
3. An Economic agreement will be established to facilate trade between the Phalanx Powers
Signed,
Chancellor Ludwig Fechner of the German Federation
Quisani
Gaming Person
Signed Takeda Nariaki, Secretary of The Imperial Department of Diplomatic Affairs and Representative of Emperor Meiji
A General Notice to Interested Parties in North America
The Vinlandic government will provide no materiel support for any of the factions currently claiming legitimacy over the territory previously controlled by the United States of America.
The Vinlandic government will provide no materiel support for any of the factions currently claiming legitimacy over the territory previously controlled by the United States of America.
Jehoshua
Catholic
- Joined
- Sep 25, 2009
- Messages
- 7,284
To: Great Britain
From: The Holy See
The Holy See expresses its concerns regarding the sectarian hostilities against the Catholic population in Ireland and elsewhere, and expresses its wish that the government does all that is legitimately possible to restore the peace to Ireland, and ensure the liberties of its Catholic citizens.
From: The Holy See
The Holy See expresses its concerns regarding the sectarian hostilities against the Catholic population in Ireland and elsewhere, and expresses its wish that the government does all that is legitimately possible to restore the peace to Ireland, and ensure the liberties of its Catholic citizens.
The Confederation votes for Munich for the Olympics, and eagerly looks forward to thoroughly thrashing the Germans in all events on their own soil.
From the Confederation
To the Mayan Republic
We accept your offer of a trade agreement as you offered it. May we consider this a sealed deal?
From the Confederation
To all American factions
We would like to declare that we have no intention of military intervention in any part of the Americas this year.
OOC: nuke: The Munich-Kyoto-Madrid Phalanx to which Spain has not been invited?
From the Confederation
To the Mayan Republic
We accept your offer of a trade agreement as you offered it. May we consider this a sealed deal?
From the Confederation
To all American factions
We would like to declare that we have no intention of military intervention in any part of the Americas this year.
OOC: nuke: The Munich-Kyoto-Madrid Phalanx to which Spain has not been invited?
JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
Venezuela votes for Buenos Aires.
Grandkhan
Telvanni Master Wizard
Spain announces its ratification of the Munich-Kyoto-Madrid Phalanx.
Signed, Phillip X, Emperor of Spain, and Prime Minister of Spain José Canalejas y Méndez
Signed, Phillip X, Emperor of Spain, and Prime Minister of Spain José Canalejas y Méndez
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
To: The Holy See
From: The United Kingdom
Catholics have full rights within the British Empire, and nowhere is this more true than Ireland. In keeping with the Irish Accords, we will be suppressing the malcontented rabble that have been causing this violence. They are a terrorist group: no more, no less.
From: The United Kingdom
Catholics have full rights within the British Empire, and nowhere is this more true than Ireland. In keeping with the Irish Accords, we will be suppressing the malcontented rabble that have been causing this violence. They are a terrorist group: no more, no less.
SamSniped
DJ Goodboye
Kurdistan votes for Buenos Aires
SouthernKing
crickety cricket
To: Japan
From: Jacksonia
Of course, we gladly accept. We look forward with friendly relations with you in the future.
Jacksonia votes Buenos Aires
From: Jacksonia
Of course, we gladly accept. We look forward with friendly relations with you in the future.
Jacksonia votes Buenos Aires
theDright
King
- Joined
- Dec 10, 2011
- Messages
- 605
To: World
From: Argentina
Buenos Aires would be the premier location for the 1916 Olympics. Ample space, wonderful food, and temperate weather can all be found in this Argentine capital. Let the 'good airs' of our city cleanse and invigorate both spectator and athlete alike. Argentina votes for Buenos Aires, you should too!
From: Argentina
Buenos Aires would be the premier location for the 1916 Olympics. Ample space, wonderful food, and temperate weather can all be found in this Argentine capital. Let the 'good airs' of our city cleanse and invigorate both spectator and athlete alike. Argentina votes for Buenos Aires, you should too!
Circuit
Writing Letters
To: Aztlan
From: Florida
We will recognize Aztlan's government as legitimate. Perhaps we should even boot our relations off with an economic agreement to liberalize trade?
To: The Phalanx
From: Florida
We request admittance into the Phalanx.
From: Florida
We will recognize Aztlan's government as legitimate. Perhaps we should even boot our relations off with an economic agreement to liberalize trade?
To: The Phalanx
From: Florida
We request admittance into the Phalanx.
Italy votes for Palermo, Italy.
To: Germany
From: Italy
We would like to congratulate you on your unification this year. We hope our two nations can continue to thrive together and keep peace around us in Europe, and the world.
To: The FBC
From: Italy
We would like to have talks with your nation about finding a way to sort out the events going on in Piedmont. Possibly we could have a vote for those living there to determine what should happen with it?
To: Germany
From: Italy
We would like to congratulate you on your unification this year. We hope our two nations can continue to thrive together and keep peace around us in Europe, and the world.
To: The FBC
From: Italy
We would like to have talks with your nation about finding a way to sort out the events going on in Piedmont. Possibly we could have a vote for those living there to determine what should happen with it?
