Capto Iugulum

[Grandkhan]

Emperor Phillip X has no intention of resigning from the throne unless he is asked to by the victors of the potential 1919 elections.

The Emperor stepping down is not, and will not be, a condition of a peace.

Furthermore, with the close of the war, the Empire will need a new constitution. We propose that the victors of the 1919 elections go into with the Emperor and his Cabinet and the leadership of the Republic, to together come to an acceptable constitution that will be respected by all, including the powers, rights, and responsibilities of the Emperor.

We feel that this is an acceptable end to this war, which should never have escalated beyond Spain's borders in the first place.

If the Confederation and the Valencia government accepts such terms, then we shall enshrine this peace into treaty form and, if the Germans and Italians are willing, we will sign the treaty into law.

 

[J.K. Stockholme]

Occitania surprised as to the turn of events.

As previously stated, we support whatever decision the parliament of Spain makes, however, must state, in all frankness, that we do not consider Emperor Phillip X in good health to continue being monarch. We recommend he step down for his crown prince, with the parliament's approval.

It's slightly surprising that the emperor thinks he can negotiate himself back into power, especially after such disreputable statements which we should not forget:

"Furthermore, Spain welcomes the opportunity to massacre Brazilian soldiers on its home turf. Truly, it is a luxury to slaughter our inferiors without even having to leave home."

"We have slaughtered your men, and destroyed your feeble attempt at seizing Madrid. You will be annihilated. Let us end this war, and talk a resolution to your rebellion. We promise we won't execute all of you."

 

[DrSeward]

To: Peru
CC: Brazil, Japan, Argentina
From: Colombia

We are thankful and appreciate your ongoing cooperation in pacifying Ecuador, but we were aghast as we learned of your move leasing the Galapagos Islands to Japan. Your friendly attitude to our nation is known, but we are not sure about Japan's intentions at all. So our allies worry not without reason.

But, to make it clear, Colombia opposes any hostile actions in this matter and will not take part in them, unless Colombian sovereignity itself is in danger. Thusly we repeat our willingness to hold negotiations and ask any party not to react hastily, as a calm mind makes the best decisions.

 

[Nintz]

From: Republican Spain
To: Monarchist Spain, World
Subject: Civil War

There are numerous thing to consider when signing this peace. Obviously, the monarchists. We fight, we bicker, but at the end of the day we are still brothers. That is how it has always been, and will always be.

The Emperor himself is the first step. We will hold a trial on the Emperor Phillip to determine whether or not he is still fit to lead a nation, and when we do, we would like to invite representatives from ALL nations around the world to oversee and take part in the trial. We cannot do this ourselves. From our Confederate allies, to the Pope, to the Scandinavian Worker's Class, all the way to the Japanese Emperor even. It is our hope this by working together, we will come to a consensus. It is possible he may need to step down. Certain segments of our population are calling for his death, though we see that as extremist. Or he could be found innocent.

After the trial, regardless of the outcome, we will work with the Emperor (new or old) to forge a new Constitution. Though the exact details are still to be decided, we would be content with a similar proposal to that of the Holy See. If we were to elect a president, who would be an equal head of state along with the monarch, as well as a congress of representatives, we would allow the Emperor to maintain some degree of power even in our democratic society. The basic powers would include those of any executive branch of state, including foreign policy and legislative vetoing. The president and Emperor would need to be in agreement, with the congress acting as a tie-breaker between the two.

Another aspect to consider is who will comprise this nation. Our Valencia government was elected democratically, many of whom voted from within Monarchist Spain at the time. The Emperor's elections, while we appreciate the attempt, were highly flawed by his restriction of who could run. The fact that a low voter turnout existed does not help the legitimacy of that elected government, though we will welcome them into discussion along with the Emperor. That said, we have no intention to hold any sort of referendum before our new elections proper. This would be in 1922, and not before. In 1922, we shall hold elections among all and see who the people want at that time.

We believe this meets both the key demands of our own people, as well as the monarchy. If there are any who believe we have overlooked something, let us know.

Foreign terms to come after domestic ones.

 

[Quisani]

TO: Peru
FROM: Japan

We have entertained Peru's friendship for several years now, as well as that of other nations along the Western coast of America. And that economic and defensive agreements bring such worry and anxiety to the nations of Argentina and Brazil that they feel they must attack and irrationally lash at Japan. You have requested to terminate the lease you entreated us to enter into but the year prior. As a sign of friendship and cooperation, we agreed to such a proposition. Now, under the liberal pressure of Argentinian and Brazillian nationalism, you have asked us to leave before the site had even finished construction. We again will entertain your request because of the friendship you have attempted to develop between nations, not because Emperor Joao and his mob demands it. We will accept your ships as sufficient payment for terminating the contract. You can tell the tyrants of Rio de Janeiro that we will unfortunately be unable to give the blood sacrifice that their culture delights in.

 

[Luckymoose]

You can tell the tyrants of Rio de Janeiro that we will unfortunately be unable to give the blood sacrifice that their culture delights in.

Brazil wins again.

 

[Brougal]

I'd wish to join as Nicaragua

 

[Grandkhan]

From: Republican Spain
To: Monarchist Spain, World
Subject: Civil War

There are numerous thing to consider when signing this peace. Obviously, the monarchists. We fight, we bicker, but at the end of the day we are still brothers. That is how it has always been, and will always be.

The Emperor himself is the first step. We will hold a trial on the Emperor Phillip to determine whether or not he is still fit to lead a nation, and when we do, we would like to invite representatives from ALL nations around the world to oversee and take part in the trial. We cannot do this ourselves. From our Confederate allies, to the Pope, to the Scandinavian Worker's Class, all the way to the Japanese Emperor even. It is our hope this by working together, we will come to a consensus. It is possible he may need to step down. Certain segments of our population are calling for his death, though we see that as extremist. Or he could be found innocent.

After the trial, regardless of the outcome, we will work with the Emperor (new or old) to forge a new Constitution. Though the exact details are still to be decided, we would be content with a similar proposal to that of the Holy See. If we were to elect a president, who would be an equal head of state along with the monarch, as well as a congress of representatives, we would allow the Emperor to maintain some degree of power even in our democratic society. The basic powers would include those of any executive branch of state, including foreign policy and legislative vetoing. The president and Emperor would need to be in agreement, with the congress acting as a tie-breaker between the two.

Another aspect to consider is who will comprise this nation. Our Valencia government was elected democratically, many of whom voted from within Monarchist Spain at the time. The Emperor's elections, while we appreciate the attempt, were highly flawed by his restriction of who could run. The fact that a low voter turnout existed does not help the legitimacy of that elected government, though we will welcome them into discussion along with the Emperor. That said, we have no intention to hold any sort of referendum before our new elections proper. This would be in 1922, and not before. In 1922, we shall hold elections among all and see who the people want at that time.

We believe this meets both the key demands of our own people, as well as the monarchy. If there are any who believe we have overlooked something, let us know.

Foreign terms to come after domestic ones.

Your suggestion does not meet the key demands of the monarchy.

What the Republicans are suggesting is that the Imperial government completely steps down in their favour.

This is not in the spirit of conciliation and negotiation. Either you are attempting to continue the war or want Spain to continue in a two government state of limbo for four years.

We highly doubt that your elections were any more democratic than ours. Were the Falange Española or the Phoenixes permitted to run in your elections? We doubt it, considering the entirety of their leadership sided with the Empire. Similarly, you were not particularly capable of having the entirety of Spain participate in your elections, considering half the country was under our control at the time. Your attempts to hold elections in our territory ultimately failed - we put a stop to them.

Secondly, you are attempting to submit the Emperor to a trial. A trial by who? The Valencia government? Such a trial would hardly be considered fair. Such a trial would be similar to placing the Valencia government's leaders to a trail by a jury comprised entirely of the Falange - a guilty verdict would be immediate, but hardly justified or even fair.

The Emperor is willing to go before a trial to determine his fitness to lead, but this trial must be comprised of an elected unified government of Spain which will take control of the nation and its empire, elected in 1919.

This is our offer. The Republicans can take it and bring peace, or they may bleed to death on the fields of Castile.

 

[m.t.cicero]

To: General Wei Jiang
From: King John

It is my belief that as our two states contain the entirety of the free Chinese population, it is wrong for our two countries to continue to maintain a hostile relationship. I propose that, in the interest of friendship and Chinese brotherhood, out two nations agree to a lowering of tariffs for our mutual benefit.

 

[Nintz]

Your suggestion does not meet the key demands of the monarchy.

What the Republicans are suggesting is that the Imperial government completely steps down in their favour.

This is not in the spirit of conciliation and negotiation. Either you are attempting to continue the war or want Spain to continue in a two government state of limbo for four years.

We highly doubt that your elections were any more democratic than ours. Were the Falange Española or the Phoenixes permitted to run in your elections? We doubt it, considering the entirety of their leadership sided with the Empire. Similarly, you were not particularly capable of having the entirety of Spain participate in your elections, considering half the country was under our control at the time. Your attempts to hold elections in our territory ultimately failed - we put a stop to them.

Secondly, you are attempting to submit the Emperor to a trial. A trial by who? The Valencia government? Such a trial would hardly be considered fair. Such a trial would be similar to placing the Valencia government's leaders to a trail by a jury comprised entirely of the Falange - a guilty verdict would be immediate, but hardly justified or even fair.

The Emperor is willing to go before a trial to determine his fitness to lead, but this trial must be comprised of an elected unified government of Spain which will take control of the nation and its empire, elected in 1919.

This is our offer. The Republicans can take it and bring peace, or they may bleed to death on the fields of Castile.

We are greatly perturbed by this response. We felt that we gave in the the primary concern the monarchists had, that of the Emperor being reduced to a figurehead. We ensured that would not happen.

As for our elections being more democratic, we would have allowed your followers to run. They simply didn't. There were not enough of your supporters to constitute a major political party that could threaten the other established parties.

The trial would be conducted by Spain, but overseen and influenced by all. We are well aware that any other situation would be unfair. As you may have noticed, we specifically invited all nations, with a varied list included in that proclamation.

All that said, we are willing to hold elections in 1919 under a new constitution. If you can accept our previously outlined points philosophically, we will adhere to our ideals and hold new elections. If you refuse to create a new government, there would not be a cause for a new election.

 

[ChiefDesigner]

Vinland wishes to note publically that it guarantees the Independence of the Second Union, Jacksonia and Florida, and will defend each of these nations from those who would intend to bring force of arms against them.

TO: Vinland
CC: USA

The Tennessee Proletarist Republic speaks for its brothers when it says that it is, as always, willing to submit to mediation to peacefully resolve this dispute.

However, we have been negotiating with the Second Union for the last three years; and every year, the federal government has backed out of a deal at the last minute.

If the Republics were less charitable, we would have started to think that the Second Union's negotiators were not attending talks in good faith. A more cynical negotiator would believe that the Second Union was simply stalling for time, while attempting to find a military solution to its problems.

Surely, the Second Union has no problems treating blacks as equals at the conference table, yes?

 

[J.K. Stockholme]

Your suggestion does not meet the key demands of the monarchy.

What the Republicans are suggesting is that the Imperial government completely steps down in their favour.

This is not in the spirit of conciliation and negotiation. Either you are attempting to continue the war or want Spain to continue in a two government state of limbo for four years.

We highly doubt that your elections were any more democratic than ours. Were the Falange Española or the Phoenixes permitted to run in your elections? We doubt it, considering the entirety of their leadership sided with the Empire. Similarly, you were not particularly capable of having the entirety of Spain participate in your elections, considering half the country was under our control at the time. Your attempts to hold elections in our territory ultimately failed - we put a stop to them.

Secondly, you are attempting to submit the Emperor to a trial. A trial by who? The Valencia government? Such a trial would hardly be considered fair. Such a trial would be similar to placing the Valencia government's leaders to a trail by a jury comprised entirely of the Falange - a guilty verdict would be immediate, but hardly justified or even fair.

The Emperor is willing to go before a trial to determine his fitness to lead, but this trial must be comprised of an elected unified government of Spain which will take control of the nation and its empire, elected in 1919.

This is our offer. The Republicans can take it and bring peace, or they may bleed to death on the fields of Castile.

The Republicans run Spain, Your Majesty, the colonies and the mainland. You hardly have room to breath, let alone negotiate.

They have put forward an extremely generous offer, which you have carelessly misinterpreted.

1. A fair and just trial, which invites the great powers of both sides of the conflict (and those neutral to it) to observe, with the current parliament's oversight. The conclusion for said trial being only the declaring of who will be emperor, the current monarch or his crown prince.
2. An open election to all the people of Spain set for the near future.
3. The management of the empire by the Provisional Government of Republican Spain in the meantime.

They are a legitimate government, which was elected, as best as possible, by the entirety of the Spanish population. As a matter of fact, the Republican election was dramatically more democratic than your attempt at one. The Republicans banned no parties, and tried to get votes from even your territories (which you seem to have had no moral qualm in disturbing). You banned parties, and failed to even retrieve a sizable number of voters.

The Republican Government is as legitimate as any other elected body of the people, and Occitania supports them in their request to maintain the empire while a trial commences, a new constitution is created, and the elections for 1922 are prepared.

 

[spryllino]

The Confederation thinks that the Republican proposal to hold elections in 1919 under a new constitution is most commendable.

 

[Luckymoose]

TO: Republican Spain
FROM: Brazil

We'd like confirmation that the remaining 500 EP of reparations will be paid to Britain, so they may be spread to the allies.

 

[Nintz]

OOC: At 100 EP per year, correct?

From: Republican Spain
To: Brazil

With the hasty conclusion in war, we will begin to finish the reparations this year.

 

[Luckymoose]

OOC: At 100 EP per year, correct?

Yes, send it to Britain and they will send it to those who require payments.

 

[TerrisH]

TO those Involved in the Spanish Civil war
From the Swiss:
As a Neutral nation dedicated to peace, siding with nether the republic nor the monarchist, And as an elected government ourselves, The Swiss Offer their services toward ending this war, as impartial and unbiased observers for the elections.

 

[Nintz]

From: Republican Spain
To: Switzerland

We for one would welcome your observers into our nation. On this note, we also extend an offer to all nations to send representatives to observe the 1919 elections provided that the Monarchists accept our proposal.

 

[ZeletDude]

We agree with the proposal for peace put forth by the Spanish Republicans. The Netherlands does not feel that a man who has time and time again acted out against Liberty and Republicanism, and the man who indeed started this rebellion by stripping individual liberties should be allowed to lead a nation built on Democracy and Liberty. Although we do not have a Monarch our self we know how having one is a cultural identity, so we propose as others have, that the Philipp abdicates in favor of the Crown Prince.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

TO: Vinland
CC: USA

The Tennessee Proletarist Republic speaks for its brothers when it says that it is, as always, willing to submit to mediation to peacefully resolve this dispute.

However, we have been negotiating with the Second Union for the last three years; and every year, the federal government has backed out of a deal at the last minute.

If the Republics were less charitable, we would have started to think that the Second Union's negotiators were not attending talks in good faith. A more cynical negotiator would believe that the Second Union was simply stalling for time, while attempting to find a military solution to its problems.

Surely, the Second Union has no problems treating blacks as equals at the conference table, yes?

To: Negro Proletarist Republics
From: Vinland

As always, we sympathize with the abuses suffered by your populations at the hands of the Scottist government, and all other American governments which preceded. However, if we are to formally recognize you, we would only do so alongside the Second Union. As we did with the Allied Territories, Vinland would be willing to oversee talks between your governments.

Regarding Spain

Vinland believes that the proposals put forth by the Confederation and Republican Spanish are both very reasonable resolutions to the current civil war. Presently, Vinland holds the belief that allowing the current Emperor remaining in his position as Head of State without any sort of review or trial would be unacceptable to much of the Spanish population, given the sentiments that he has expressed throughout this war. To ensure the stability of post-war Spain, there must be some form of review, or alternatively, the Emperor's abdication on behalf of his son, the Crown Prince.

The Konungariket Vinland is willing to provide observers to this trial, should its presence be desired.