CBob03 Germans in Tu-tus

[CommandoBob]

Wow.

In just two turns the Ottomans and Sumerians are down to OCC, we get a MGL from a vigorous defense and we add nine or ten new cities.

 

[Elephantium]

Turn 2 IT:

x Mecca: Cavs
HFH: Settlers
x Bad-tibira: Workers
Civil disorder in x Erech I adjusted citizen assignments last turn
Ernst Richter: Cavs
Franz Ignaz von Beecke: Workers
JSBach: Cavs
Resistance in x Kutha ends.
Johann Schop: Cannons

Turn 3 (1080 AD):

Declare war on the Celts. Hengest and two Cavs race across the desert and destroy Deva after killing a spear and two Gallic Swords!
Two eCavs take out a Musket and a Pike, and Glanum is ours!
Lose two vCavs taking Rutupiae.
Take Glevum (in what used to be western Ottoman empire) from the Celts, no losses.
Take Lapardum (no losses).

It seems that Greece just entered the IA. They learned Medicine, so we can buy it anytime.

*** Keep an eye on Kurt Weill - they're close to cranky.

IT:

Lose two Cavs to Celt counterattacks - but a third slays his attacker
Helmut Lachenmann: Cav->Uni
Felix Draeseke: Rifle->Rifle
Gustav Mahler: Workers
Offenbach: Rifle->Market
Andreas Romberg: Cannon->Cannon

Turn 4 (1090 AD):

Kill a stray GS near x Glanum
Barbarossa kills 3 muskets and a cav to take Verulamium.
At Agedincum, lose one Cav, kill 2 muskets and 1 cav and the city is ours!
Lose another cav trying to pick off an archer, of all things
Dieterich Buxtehude founded near x Marad. Making Cannon.
One army puts paid to the Sumerians by capturing Apisala!
Another army captures Monguntiacum and ends the Celtic presence west of the coastal Gem mountains in what used to be their territory
MM to avoid wasted beakers. Sci to 50%.

IT:

Lose three Cavs and a stack of workers to Celts.
EEK! One of their GSs was in range of Susa! Somehow, I missed that, and it was undefended
Electricity->RP
Georg Hajdu: Settlers
Heinz Chur: Settlers
x Ankara: Cannon->Cannon
Johnannes Nucius: Cannon->Cannon
Akwesasne culture flips to us.
Indians start Newtons.

Turn 5 (1100 AD):

First things first, retake Susa. One cav does the trick.
J. H. Buttstett founded near x Bad-tibira. Making Cannon.

IT:

Lose a pair of Cavs to Celtic counterattacks.
Lose the Archer army and a Longbow as the Celts retake Lindum
Iroquois want MPP+RoP ... and for us to pay 1gpt for the privilege. No way.
Herbert Brun: Cav->Uni
x Kisurra: Worker->Cannon
Franz Ignaz von Beecke: Workers
Gustav Mahler: Workers
GFH: Cav->Rifle

Turn 6 (1110 AD):

We retake Lindum using the forces that attacked it last turn. I really should have defended that city better
We kill a few Celtic units using our Cav army and Hengest.
Hans von Bülow founded. Making Cannon.
Take Karabuk with a pair of Cavs, and the Ottomans are gone!
Upgrade a couple of Pikes to Rifles.

IT:

Lose an MDI to an enemy Cav
They lose a Cav trying to take Lindum
and another at Verulamium
HFH: Settler->Settler
Moritz Eggert: Cavs
Pachelbel: Rifles
x Zonguldak: Worker->Cannon
Civil disorder in Monguntiacum
Sethus Calvisius: Lib->Worker
Christian Cannabich: Lib->Worker
Inca start work on Smith's

Turn 7 (1120 AD):

Take Alesia with one of the armies.
Move workers. We're making good progress on the Ottoman Railroad (along the western seaboard up towards Istanbul).

IT:

Lose a Longbow to a stray GS
x Mecca: Cavs
Franz Ignaz von Beecke: Workers
Gustav Mahler: Workers
PDQ Bach: Cavs
x Kutallu: Worker->Cannon
J Krebs: Workers
x Kirklareli: Lib->Cannon
Carl Tieke: Courthouse->Lib

Turn 8 (1130 AD):

Lose a few Longbows in the battles for Burdigala and Nemausus, but we take both towns.
Nicolaus Bruhns founded. Making Cannon.

IT:

To be continued...

 

[CommandoBob]

Lose the Archer army and a Longbow as the Celts retake Lindum

Don't be too upset.

The Archer Army was Old Tech, but at least they died on their feet; they weren't disbanded to help make a building.

 

[Elephantium]

Here's the rest of my turnlog:

Turn 8 (1130 AD):

Lose a few Longbows in the battles for Burdigala and Nemausus, but we take both towns.
Nicolaus Bruhns founded. Making Cannon.

IT:

Aztecs want a map trade. No, thanks.
Celts want a peace treaty. They underestimate German ferocity.
Michael von Biel: Courthouse->Temple
Georg Hajdu: Settlers
x Erech: Worker->Cannon
Heinz Chur: Settlers
Albert Dietrich: Cavs

Turn 9 (1140 AD):

Battle for Gergovia:
3 cav armies kill 3 pikes and one LB, and the city is ours
Upgrade a couple more Pikes to Rifles as I shuffle defenders to and fro

IT:

Lose a Cav to a Celtic cav.
x Ur: Worker->Cannon
Eberlin: Uni->Settler
Helmut Lachenmann: Uni->Cav
Ernst Richter: Cavs
Ouch, x Burdigala culture-flipped. We had several units stationed there
JSBach: Cavs
Gustav Mahler: Workers
x Marad: Worker->Cannon
x Kutha: Worker->Cannon
Jacob Praetorius: Uni->Cav
Andreas Kunstein: Uni->Cav
Kurt Weill: Cannon->Temple
Quickmix: Cannon->Cannon
Russians start Smith's

Turn 10 (1150 AD):

Move attack stacks into position for the next player to take Tolosa and Richborough.
Divert a Cav from going to Richborough in order to retake x Burdigala. The city is ours again.
Gregor Aichinger founded near x Lindum. Making Cannon.
Bartholomäus Aich founded a little south of Lindum. Making Cannon.
We bombard the defenders at Lugdunum and attack with Cavs. We take the city with no losses!

Handoff notes:

The Celtic war is in good shape. We're poised to take two more cities next turn, and if we send armies without cannon support, we could probably make that three. I'll be surprised if the Celts last another 10 turns if the next player is as aggressive as I was. The only fly in the ointment is Curovernum and Segusio. They're on the other side of a bay, with Greek territory covering the land routes.

We could get around that in several ways:
a) Buy the Greeks into an alliance
b) Rush a couple of Galleons using the former Celtic cities and send a couple of armies to the holdouts.
c) Sign a RoP with Greece and use our workers to rail a path through their territory.

Speaking of Greece, they have a lot of cash. We should consider selling them Steam Power. We can also sell Steam Power to the Incans and Indians - better for us to get their gold than for the Greeks to get it
Finally, I'd like to start a war over on the eastern part of the continent. A dogpile vs. the Iroquois or the Japanese would reduce the number of civs in the game with little effort on our part, I think.

Edit: Lots of civs are working on Smith's, so I should note that RW will finish it in two turns.

Spoiler :

the save.

 

[CommandoBob]

Let's sign an ROP with Greece and make the last Sumerian cities into lighthouses of German culture.

Let's sell Steam Power while we can.

Dogpile in the East? Love it.

 

[CommandoBob]

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If I get done with my turns and we still have only three players I'll post in the SG thread. I want to give the others a chance to play first.

Once the Celts are history, the turns should play faster.

 

[Elephantium]

Unless we take on the Indians, which I'd like to do.

Ideally, I'd like to take all the land west of the "chokepoint" represented by Japan's core territory.

 

[TheOverseer714]

This is my official "got it" post, I may not begin play until tomorrow night, as I'm up in another SG. Any strategy suggestions and further plans on who to attack next would be appreciated. I will shoot for 10 turns, but I make no guarantees, as I'm kinda spread thin with 4 SG's going (Am I nuts?)

 

[Elephantium]

Nah, you're not nuts. I'm also in four SGs - plus the Demogame.

My suggestions are as follows:

* Take the rest of the Celtic towns that are within easy reach.
* Sign a ROP with Greece and run 3-4 armies up to the last two Celtic towns to take them.
* Sell Steam Power to Greece, Inca, and India, picking up Medicine and tons of gold in the process.
* Declare war on America. Sign the Dutch, Mongols, Japanese, Iroquois, and Aztecs. I'm not sure about the Iro or the Aztecs, but last time I looked, the Dutch and Mongols lack Iron, and the Japanese lack Salt. That should make the alliances cheap.
* Start building Settlers in more middle-grade cities - we have a lotmore land to fill!

 

[CommandoBob]

On Turn 7 or 8 (1220 or 1230 AD) our deal with Russia for Furs will expire. Let it.

On the following turn, declare war on Russia and capture their Furs, which are between Johannes Brahms and Christian Cannabich. They are just inside the Russian border. Capturing Bryansk will do the trick.

This will then give us 7 of 8 luxuries. We'll still need Ivory to have all eight.

Before you sell Steam Power to Greece, offer Gems for Ivory. We may have to pay some gpt for the Ivory, but that's okay. We'll get it back when we sell them Steam Power.

 

[CommandoBob]

Unless we take on the Indians, which I'd like to do.

Ideally, I'd like to take all the land west of the "chokepoint" represented by Japan's core territory.

India is doing very well in this game. They have 33 cities and have been somewhat aggressive.

But after we take out the Celts, I think the only other reason for war will be to get all 8 luxuries. Which means fighting either Greece or America to get a source of Ivory.

Once the Celts are gone we will control about a third of the map. I think we'll have space for all 200 cities in this area. It will be crowded, but I think we can do.

We'll still need a large army. We may even want to blockade our borders to keep the AI out. And at this point I was thinking that Germany could relax and focus on building culture.

But I'm open to other ideas.

 

[Elephantium]

Eh, I'd say we need more of a moderate army once we stop expanding - enough to stop any AI incursions. With our rail network, we needn't fear invasion.

To get Ivory, I'd favor attacking Greece; it's more easily defended in case India gets any big ideas when we're halfway to our culture victory.

 

[TheOverseer714]

I have just finished turn 5, and I like going after Greece right after our deals with them expire. We could do the next best thing to RoP rape by building a railnet in Greece during the RoP, then clear out and attack them when it's not a rape, just honorable preparation. I'd also like to sign an RoP with the Inca to allow as fast a takedown as possible, their territory has a long border with Greece and access to a Greek cultural island on the far side of Incan territory. Sound like a plan? After all, America's Ivory is very far away.

 

[TheOverseer714]

Here is my through turn 5 turn-log and the save, I will resume tomorrow night if you guys can wait me out, I'm finding the turns more like 2 hours apiece, so it's slow going, I might finish 10 by Friday night.

Spoiler :

Pre-flight:
Get Word and CivAssist 2 up and running. Look over the state of the empire. Each turn looks like it will take an hour or more due to the massive map. I’ve become spoiled by playing normal maps.
Non-Military:
Workers 119
Slaves 67
Military:
Warriors 1
Archers 1
Spearmen 2
Pikemen 11
Longbows 15
Riflemen 10
Knights 10
Cavalry 35
Cannons 43
Galleys 1
Caravels 1
Armies 7, 3 Knights, 4 Cavalry
Medieval Infantry 7
Trebuchets 1
Curraghs 1

Pre-turn: Re-name Apisala, Gergovia, Lugdunum by adding x. Grab 3 exposed Celtic workers. Change builds in captured cities to workers (why not get some slaves?)

Press enter>

IBT: Celt Longbow kills exposed MDI,
India wants a MPP and ROP for 15gpt, I politely decline, but sell them our world map for theirs plus 40g and 2gpt.
X Konya worker=>worker.
Felix Draesake rifleman=>cavalry.
#Von Beecke worker=>worker.
X Salonika worker=>worker.
X Iskenderum worker=>Library.
Karl Marx cannon=>settler.

1160 AD: Battle for Richborough, cannons go 4-10 exposing rPike.
vCav wins vs rPike, -2hp.
vCav wins vs 2hpMusket, -2hp.
vCav wins vs 2hpMusket, -2hp, and Richborough is ours! Capture 2 slaves and 1 trebuchet. =>worker
Battle for Tolosa, cannons go 4-6.
eCav wins vs redlined rMusket clean.
eCav wins vs redlined rPike clean, and Tolosa is ours! Capture 1 slave. =>worker

IBT: Smith’s finishes in Richard Wagner and we begin our Golden Age. I don’t quite get the why, seeing that we aren’t commercial. =>Military Academy.
*HFH builds cannon?=>settler.
*Georg Hadju settler=>settler.
xZabalam worker=>worker.
xBurdigala deposes.
#Gustav Mahler worker=>worker.
George Handel rifleman=>cavalry.
#JKrebs worker=>worker.
xRutupiae worker=>worker.
Hildegarde of Bingen University=>Bank.
Max Reger University=>Marketplace.
Joseph Haydn Library=>Temple.
Eckard Unruh cannon=>cannon.

1170 AD: Celtic Caravel kills Curragh, bye bye lil’ boat.
Despite the GA, we’re getting some WW, CA2 gives a laundry list of cities ready to riot, make that my first priority.
VCav kills rSpear and retakes xBurdigala.
Battle for Augustodorum.
1st Teutonic kills vMusket -1hp.
1st Teutonic kills vPike -4hp.
1st Teutonic kills rMusket -4hp, and Augustodurum is ours! =>worker
Battle for Cataractorium.
3rd Teutonic kills rPike -2hp.
eCav kills kills rPike -3hp, and Cataractonium is ours! 3 slaves captured. =>worker
I trade Steam and an ROP to Greece for Medicine, Democracy, World Map, 63 gpt and 180 gold.
Trade Steam to India for 36 gpt and 20 gold.
Trade Steam to the Inca for World Map, 59 gpt, and 120 gold.

IBT: Replaceable Parts arrives, next is Scientific Method.
xMecca cavalry=>cavalry.
xBad-tibira worker=>worker.
Eberlin settler=>Bank.
*Heinz Chur settler=>settler.
#Franz von Beeke worker=>worker.
xLapurdum artillery=>artillery.
Pachelbel rifleman=>infantry.
xGlanum worker=>worker.
GP Teleman Aqueduct=>Bank.

1180 AD: Founded Maria (Theresa) von Paradis near xIskendurum.
Founded Berthold Goldschmidt near xKutha.
Founded Carl Orff near xBursa.
Battle of Camulodunum, Cannons go 3-17.
3rd Teutonic kills 3 hp vMusket -5hp.
3rd Teutonic kills rPike -2hp.
3rd Teutonic kills 3 hp vPike -3hp.
eCav kills rLB -1hp, and Camulodunum is ours! =>worker
Upgrade 9 Cannons for 1080 gold. Will hold on more upgrades for a few turns.

IBT: xAlesia worker=>worker.
*HFH settler=>settler.
xErech worker=>worker.
xAgedincum worker=>worker.
Helmut Lachenmann cavalry=>cavalry.
Ernst Richter cavalry=>cavalry.
Herbert Bruhn University=>Bank.
#Gustav Mahler worker=>worker.
xDenizili University=>Aqueduct.
Ludwig von Beethoven Marketplace=>settler.
Carl Tieke Library=>Aqueduct.
Christian Cannabich worker=>worker.

1190 AD: Battle of Eboracum, Cannons go 4-9.
eCav loses to rSpear.
2nd Knights kills 2hp vPike clean.
2nd Knights kills 2hp rSpear -3hp.
eCav kills red-lined rPike clean, and Eboracum is ours!=>worker
Battle of Entremont, Cannons go 8-12.
vCav kills red-lined rMusket -1hp, promotes.
eCav kills red-lined rMusket -4hp.
eCav kills red-lined rMusket -2hp.
and Entremon is ours!=>worker

IBT: Celts retake a town I thought was safe(Tolosa), but I will get it back next turn. Stupid mistake will cost more WW, but hopefully we are close to winning this war.
xGergovia worker=>worker.
Moritz Eggert cavalry=>cavalry.
xKufah Courthouse=>settler.
Felix Draesake cavalry=>University.
#Franz von Beeke worker=>worker.
JSBach cavalry=>cavalry.
#Gustav Mahler worker=>worker.
Albert Dietrich cavalry=>cavalry.
xNemausus worker=>worker.
PDQ Bach cavalry=>Marketplace.
Heinz Zimmerman Cathedral=>Bank.
Leopold Hoffman Library=>Temple.
Jacob Praetorious cavalry=>cavalry.
#JKrebs worker=>worker
Wolfgang Rihm cavalry=>cavalry.
xCankiri Library=>Temple.
Walter Kollo University=>Marketplace.

1200 AD: Founded August (Friedrich) Martin Klughardt near xUskudar=>artillery
Tolosa taken back by eCav vs 3hp vCav.
Battle for Ratae Coratanorum, artillery goes 3-3 to redline both defenders.
eCav kills red-lined rPike clean.
eCav kills rLB clean.
eCav kills red-lined rSpear -2hp, and Ratae Coratanorum is ours! =>worker

The Save: http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/110452/CBob03_Overseer__1200_AD.SAV

 

[Elephantium]

Well, I'm opposed to RoP-rape.

Building a railnet that we use once the RoP expires is no problem though

 

[CommandoBob]

Greek War
I've downloaded the save and looked at it through MapStat and CivAssist II. I've not opened the game.

We still have a 17 turn deal with the Greeks. An ROP would 3 more turns to that.

Ollantaytambo, the Greek city with the Ivory, is not near our border. In fact, it is on the other side of a mountain range. Lots of Worker Turns. We would need to capture two other cities on the way to the Ivory also, to protect the trade route.

Another option, which I see now when I reread Overseer's notes, would be to ROP with Inca and build up their railnet to Ollantaytambo, which is only one tile from the Incan border. Capture Ollantaytambo, load it up with forces to prevent a flip or else just raze it and rebuild. And we have Ivory.

(When I first read Overseer's plan I thought he wanted to attack Inca. I don't know how I read that into what he wrote. )

The Greek cities of Herakleia and Ica are also one tile away from the Incan border. We would need to capture these towns also to preserve our trade route. Attacking via Inca lands will be much easier than bulldozing through Greece.

So...
I'm in favor of an ROP with Inca to help our attack on Greece. We'll just need to get our units into place a few turns before our trade deal with Greece expires. If we wait until the turn before I'm afraid some Incan worker would wind up blocking our path.

Turns
Take as long as you need, Overseer. One of the reasons for a Huge map was to give everyone some time as a Pointy Stick Commander. Once our borders are set, the turns should move much faster. No warfare, less unit movements, maybe some MM and rushing.

 

[TheOverseer714]

I am done with all 10 turns, it was a marathon with a fine reward at the end, which you'll see in the turn-log and screenshots. Here is the entire turn-log:

Spoiler :

Pre-flight:
Get Word and CivAssist 2 up and running. Look over the state of the empire. Each turn looks like it will take an hour or more due to the massive map. I’ve become spoiled by playing normal maps.
Non-Military:
Workers 119
Slaves 67
Military:
Warriors 1
Archers 1
Spearmen 2
Pikemen 11
Longbows 15
Riflemen 10
Knights 10
Cavalry 35
Cannons 43
Galleys 1
Caravels 1
Armies 7, 3 Knights, 4 Cavalry
Medieval Infantry 7
Trebuchets 1
Curraghs 1

Pre-turn: Re-name Apisala, Gergovia, Lugdunum by adding x. Grab 3 exposed Celtic workers. Change builds in captured cities to workers (why not get some slaves?)

Press enter>

IBT: Celt Longbow kills exposed MDI,
India wants a MPP and ROP for 15gpt, I politely decline, but sell them our world map for theirs plus 40g and 2gpt.
X Konya worker=>worker.
Felix Draesake rifleman=>cavalry.
#Von Beecke worker=>worker.
X Salonika worker=>worker.
X Iskenderum worker=>Library.
Karl Marx cannon=>settler.

1160 AD: Battle for Richborough, cannons go 4-10 exposing rPike.
vCav wins vs rPike, -2hp.
vCav wins vs 2hpMusket, -2hp.
vCav wins vs 2hpMusket, -2hp, and Richborough is ours! Capture 2 slaves and 1 trebuchet. =>worker
Battle for Tolosa, cannons go 4-6.
eCav wins vs redlined rMusket clean.
eCav wins vs redlined rPike clean, and Tolosa is ours! Capture 1 slave. =>worker

IBT: Smith’s finishes in Richard Wagner and we begin our Golden Age. I don’t quite get the why, seeing that we aren’t commercial. =>Military Academy.
*HFH builds cannon?=>settler.
*Georg Hadju settler=>settler.
xZabalam worker=>worker.
xBurdigala deposes.
#Gustav Mahler worker=>worker.
George Handel rifleman=>cavalry.
#JKrebs worker=>worker.
xRutupiae worker=>worker.
Hildegarde of Bingen University=>Bank.
Max Reger University=>Marketplace.
Joseph Haydn Library=>Temple.
Eckard Unruh cannon=>cannon.

1170 AD: Celtic Caravel kills Curragh, bye bye lil’ boat.
Despite the GA, we’re getting some WW, CA2 gives a laundry list of cities ready to riot, make that my first priority.
VCav kills rSpear and retakes xBurdigala.
Battle for Augustodorum.
1st Teutonic kills vMusket -1hp.
1st Teutonic kills vPike -4hp.
1st Teutonic kills rMusket -4hp, and Augustodurum is ours! =>worker
Battle for Cataractorium.
3rd Teutonic kills rPike -2hp.
eCav kills kills rPike -3hp, and Cataractonium is ours! 3 slaves captured. =>worker
I trade Steam and an ROP to Greece for Medicine, Democracy, World Map, 63 gpt and 180 gold.
Trade Steam to India for 36 gpt and 20 gold.
Trade Steam to the Inca for World Map, 59 gpt, and 120 gold.

IBT: Replaceable Parts arrives, next is Scientific Method.
xMecca cavalry=>cavalry.
xBad-tibira worker=>worker.
Eberlin settler=>Bank.
*Heinz Chur settler=>settler.
#Franz von Beeke worker=>worker.
xLapurdum artillery=>artillery.
Pachelbel rifleman=>infantry.
xGlanum worker=>worker.
GP Teleman Aqueduct=>Bank.

1180 AD: Founded Maria (Theresa) von Paradis near xIskendurum.
Founded Berthold Goldschmidt near xKutha.
Founded Carl Orff near xBursa.
Battle of Camulodunum, Cannons go 3-17.
3rd Teutonic kills 3 hp vMusket -5hp.
3rd Teutonic kills rPike -2hp.
3rd Teutonic kills 3 hp vPike -3hp.
eCav kills rLB -1hp, and Camulodunum is ours! =>worker
Upgrade 9 Cannons for 1080 gold. Will hold on more upgrades for a few turns.

IBT: xAlesia worker=>worker.
*HFH settler=>settler.
xErech worker=>worker.
xAgedincum worker=>worker.
Helmut Lachenmann cavalry=>cavalry.
Ernst Richter cavalry=>cavalry.
Herbert Bruhn University=>Bank.
#Gustav Mahler worker=>worker.
xDenizili University=>Aqueduct.
Ludwig von Beethoven Marketplace=>settler.
Carl Tieke Library=>Aqueduct.
Christian Cannabich worker=>worker.

1190 AD: Battle of Eboracum, Cannons go 4-9.
eCav loses to rSpear.
2nd Knights kills 2hp vPike clean.
2nd Knights kills 2hp rSpear -3hp.
eCav kills red-lined rPike clean, and Eboracum is ours!=>worker
Battle of Entremont, Cannons go 8-12.
vCav kills red-lined rMusket -1hp, promotes.
eCav kills red-lined rMusket -4hp.
eCav kills red-lined rMusket -2hp. and Entremont is ours!=>worker.

IBT: Celts retake a town I thought was safe(Tolosa), but I will get it back next turn. Stupid mistake will cost more WW, but hopefully we are close to winning this war.
xGergovia worker=>worker.
Moritz Eggert cavalry=>cavalry.
xKufah Courthouse=>settler.
Felix Draesake cavalry=>University.
#Franz von Beeke worker=>worker.
JSBach cavalry=>cavalry.
#Gustav Mahler worker=>worker.
Albert Dietrich cavalry=>cavalry.
xNemausus worker=>worker.
PDQ Bach cavalry=>Marketplace.
Heinz Zimmerman Cathedral=>Bank.
Leopold Hoffman Library=>Temple.
Jacob Praetorious cavalry=>cavalry.
#JKrebs worker=>worker
Wolfgang Rihm cavalry=>cavalry.
xCankiri Library=>Temple.
Walter Kollo University=>Marketplace.

1200 AD: Founded August (Friedrich) Martin Klughardt near xUskudar=>artillery
Tolosa taken back by eCav vs 3hp vCav.
Battle for Ratae Coratanorum, artillery goes 3-3 to redline both defenders.
eCav kills red-lined rPike clean.
eCav kills rLB clean.
eCav kills red-lined rSpear -2hp, and Ratae Coratanorum is ours! =>worker

IBT: *Georg Hadju settler=>settler.
*Heinz Chur settler=>settler.
George Handel cavalry=>cavalry.
Christoph Gluck Marketplace=>University.
Johann Thiel cavalry=>Courthouse.

1210 AD: Battle of Isca, Cannons go 4-6.
eCav kills red-lined rMusket -1hp
vCav kills red-lined rPike -1hp and promotes, and Isca is ours!=>artillery
Battle of Axima, Artillery goes 3-4.
eCav kills red-lined rMusket clean.
eCav kills red-lined rPike -1hp.and Axima is ours!=>worker

IBT: A couple of Celtic Cavs show up to kill 2 exposed vCavs of ours.
Japan signs MPP with Greece.
Scientific Method arrives, next is Industrialization.
*HFH settler=>settler.
xRichborough worker=>worker.
xVerulamium worker=>worker.
xAugustodorum worker=>worker.
Helmut Lachenmann cavalry=>infantry.
Ernst Richter cavalry=>cavalry.
xZabalam worker=>worker.
xBurdigala deposes.
#Franz von Beeke worker=>worker.
#Gustav Mahler worker=>worker.
Pachelbel infantry=>infantry.
Offenbach cavalry=>settler.
Max Reger settler=>Courthouse.
Sethus Calvisius worker=>artillery.

1220 AD: xBurdigala retaken=>worker.
DoW on Russia after seeing what they wanted for furs.
Battle of Bryansk, Artillery goes 5-5.
eCav kills red-lined rMusket clean.
eCav kills red-lined rSpear clean.
eCav kills red-lined rSpear -2hp.
eCav kills red-lined rSpear -1hp and Bryansk is ours!=>worker
Max Bruch founded near xLapurdum.
Battle of Tver’, Artillery goes 3-3.
vCav kills red-lined rSpear clean.
vCav kills red-lined rSpear clean.and Tver’ is ours!=>worker
Fritz Seitz founded near xLindum.

IBT: xMecca cavalry=>settler.
Michael von Biel Temple=>cavalry.
xRutupiae worker=>worker.
Andreas Kunstein cavalry=>cavalry.

1230 AD: Paul Hindemith founded near xGergovia.
Georg (Christoph) Wagenseil founded near xApisala.
Sign RoP with Inca straight-up.

IBT: xAlesia worker=>worker.
*George Hadju settler=>settler.
xErech worker=>worker.
*Heinz Chur settler=>settler.
xKufah settler=Marketplace
JS Bach cavalry=>Bank.
#Gustav Mahler worker=>worker.
Ludwig von Beethoven settler=>University.
Wilhelm Rust Library=>Temple.
Gottfried Scheidt Courthouse=>Marketplace.
Christian Cannabich worker=>worker.

1240 AD: Battle of Yakutsk, Artillery goes 5-6.
vCav kills red-lined rMusket -2hp.
vCav kills red-lined vMusket clean.
vCav kills 2hp vLB clean and Yakutsk is ours! 3 Slaves taken.=>worker.
Battle of Segusio, Artillery goes 6-7.
eCav kills red-lined rMusket -2hp.
eCav kills red-lined rSpear -1hp, and we get an MGL! Horsa used to make army.
eCav kills red-lined rSpear -1hp, and we get an MGL! Rommel rushes Pentagon.
eCav kills red-lined rSpear clean, and Segusio is ours!
Battle of Curovernum, no bombardment.
eCav kills healthy rSpear -3hp.
eCav kills healthy rSpear -2hp, and we get another MGL! Barbarossa used to make army.
eCav kills healthy rSpear -1hp, Curovernum is ours, and the Celts are no more!=>worker.

IBT: WLTKD breaks out all over due to no more WW.
xMecca settler=>University.
*HFH settler=>settler.
xGergovia worker=>worker.
*Heinz Chur the Pentagon=>settler.
Moritz Eggert cavalry=>Bank.
Helmut Lachenmann infantry=>infantry.
Ernst Richter cavalry=>University.
Herbert Brun Bank=>cavalry.
Felix Draesake University=>Bank.
#Franz von Beeke worker=>worker.
xSalonika worker=>artillery.
Albert Dietrich cavalry=>University.
Offenbach settler=>University.
xNemausus worker=>worker.
George Handel cavalry=>Bank.
Johann Schop artillery=>artillery.
#JKrebs worker=>worker.
Robert Schumann University=>Courthouse.

1250 AD: Johann (Georg) Albrechtsberger founded near xLugdunum=>artillery.
Leopold Mozart founded near xGergovia=>artillery.
Anton Webern founded near xTolosa=>artillery.
Fritz Kreisler founded near xAydin=>artillery.


Non-Military:
Settlers 3
Workers 139
Slaves 102
Military:
Warriors 1
Archers 1
Spearmen 1
Pikemen 11
Longbows 14
Riflemen 13
Knights 10
Cavalry 49
Infantry 2
Cannons 35
Artillery 14, 4 captured/upgraded.
Galleys 1
Caravels 1
Armies 9, 3 Knights, 6 Cavalry
Medieval Infantry 6

Some screenshots:

The save: http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/110452/CBob03_Overseer__1250_AD.SAV

 

[CommandoBob]

Looks good. Celts are gone; we have our own Furs and are working on getting our own Ivory to complete the Luxury Collection,; and people our paying us for our smarts.



I'll focus on railing to the Ivory in GreeceLand and beat up on Russia a little bit.

I'll check each turn for pop rushing opportunities (CAII doesn't really like my PC, so I'll check the hard way).


Government Change
We still plan to change governments a 2nd time, correct? Going to Republic from Feudalism. But this would be after we get a lot of culture buildings built. Right now we are gathering +372 cpt; I think we should be looking to change once we get over +500 cpt. At least +500 cpt; perhaps it should be higher; around +700 or so.

Or maybe 200 cities is an easier target to use.

 

[CommandoBob]

Feudalism 0.9.1
4150 gold, 210 gpt
Industrialization 1 turns
Golden Age, 11 more turns.

Per Civ Assist II, at our current pace, we will have a Cultural Victory in 2076 AD.
We plan on something a bit sooner.

City Builds

• Militray Academy [1]
• Settler [6]
• Infantry [2]
• University [9]
• Bank [8]
• Worker [30]
• Courthouse [3]
• Cavalry[6]
• Market [4]
• Aqueduct[]
• Artillery [54]
• Temple [5]
• Library [26]
• Harbor [4]

Military

• 12 Settler
• 139 Workers
• 102 Slaves (no upkee)
• 01 Warriors
• 01 Archers
• 01 Spear
• 02 Horseman
• 10 Pikes
• 14 Longbow
• 10 Knight
• 13 Rifelman
• 49 Cavalry
• 02 Infantry
• 35 Cannon
• 10 Artillery
• 01 Galley
• 01 Caravel
• 09 Army
• 06 Maces
• Support Costs
  • 305 Total Units
  • 728 Allowed Units
  • 0 gpt Unit Support

Wonder Races

• Shakespeare's Theater
  • Athens (Greece)
  • Cuzco (Incaa)
  • Novgorod (Russia)
  • Delhi (India)

Yawn.


International Relations

• Russia - war
• Everyone else - peace

We seem to have the only war on the planet.

Resources

• Luxuries
  • 04 Wines
  • 02 Furs
  • 03 Dyes
  • 02 Incense
  • 02 Spice
  • 06 Silk
  • 06 Gems
• Strategic
  • 05 Horse
  • 09 Iron
  • 05 Saltpeter
  • 02 Coal
  • 02 Rubber

We still import one incense from India, but this is tied with 32 gpt, so we will leave it alone. That deal ends in 2 turns.

Total Culture of 14694, 2nd of 12; 1st) Greece, 21106.
Culture per turn of +318, 2nd of 12; 1st) Greece, +469.



City Production (highlights of our 163 cites)

1. Richard Wagner RW (12) Military Academy in 1. (We can make our own armies).
2. x Alesia (5) whip a library for 2 citizens.
3. x Edrine (9) taxmen -> hardhats, hire 4th harhat, university in 8 not 67.
4. x Lugdunum (5) taxman -> hardhats; worker -> library in 7.
5. Hans Zender (4) hire a hardhat for the library in 6.
6. x Camulodunum (3)hire a hardhat; worker -> library in 11.
7. x Richborough (6) hire a hardhat; worker -> library in 12.
8. x Bad-tibira (3) hire a hardhat; worker -> library in 11.
9. x Verulamium (5) geek -> hardhat; worker -> library in 10.
10. x Erech (4) hire a hardhat; worker -> library in 13.
11. x Gergovia (5) hire a hardhat; worker -> library in 10.
12. x Augustodorum (6) swap tiles around, get two hardhats; worker -> library in 7.
13. x Agedincum (2) geek -> hardhat; worker -> library in 12.
14. x Aydin (4) hire a hardhat for library in 4.
15. x Antalya (2) hire a hardhat for library in 6.
16. x Konya (6) geeks to harhats; arty to universtiy in 13.
17. x Zabalam (2) geek to hardhat; worker to library in 13.
18. x Kissura (4) hire a hardhat; arty to libary in 5.
19. x Eboracum (7) taxman to hardhats; worker to library in 5.
20. x Burdigala (4) hire a hardhat; worker to libary in 12.
21. x Cataractonium (5) taxmen to hardhats, worker to library in 7.
22. x Yakutsk (5) taxman to hardhat, worker to libary in 10.
23. x Lapurdum (2) hire a hardhat, arty to libary in 11.
24. x Sinop (8) taxman to hardhats, arty to university in 6.
25. x Marad (2) hire a hardhat, aty to libary in 10.
26. x Kafa (4) hire two hardats, library in 2 not 7.
27. x Ankara (7) taxmen to hardhats; arty to university in 12.
28. x Ratae Coritanorum (2) hire a hardhat; worker to libary in 12.
29. x Tolosa (3) hire a hardhat; worker to library in 11.
30. x Mulga (5) hire a hardhat; library in 3 not 8.
31. x Nemausus (2) hire a hardhat; worker to libary in 14.
32. x Susa (3) hire a hardhat; arty to libary in 7.
33. x Glanum (2) taxman to hardhat; worker to library in 11.
34. x Anshan (3) hire a hardhat; libary in 6 not 18.
35. x Segusio (3) taxman to hardhat; worker to library in 13.
36. Ignaz Leybach (4) hire a hardhat; library in 4 not 12.
37. x Bryansk (5) geek to hardhat, hire 2nd hardhat; worker to library in 7.
38. x Rutapiae (2) hire a hardhat; worker to library in 13.
39. x Tver' (5) geek to hardhat; worker to library in 13.
40. x Apisala (2) hire a hardhat; library in 8 not 24.
41. Wilhelm Rust (3) taxman to hardhat, hire 2nd hardhat; temple in 12 not 29.
42. x Zonguldak (3) hire a hardhat; arty to university in 29.
43. x Monguntiacum (1) hire a hardhat; harbor in 5 not 15.
44. x Karabuk (2) hire a hardhat; harbor in 6 not 16.
45. Gottfried Scheidt (6) cop to hardhat; market in 12 not 14.
46. x Glevum (2) hire a hardahat; arty to library in 8.
47. x Cankira (1) hire a hardhat; temple in 19 not 55.
48. Friedrich Kiel (2) hire a hardhat; library in 4 not 12.
49. Kurt Wiell (8) 2 taxman to hardhats; temple to library in 3.
50. Eckhard Unruh (6) hire two hardhats; arty to library in 4.
51. Quickmix (6) geeks to hardhat; arty to libary in 4.
52. Ernst Pepping (6) geeks to hardhats; arty to market in 7.
53. Carl von Ditterdorf (5) hire a hardhat; library in 4 not 10.
54. x Axima (3) hire a hardhat; worker to library in 11.
55. Engelbert Humperdinck (2) hire a hardhat; library in 4 not 12.
56. Nicolaus Vetter (4) hire two hardhats; library in 2 not 4.
57. J H Buttstett (5) hire three hardhats; library in 3 not 16.
58. Ilia Trilling (5) hire two hardhats; library in 4 not 18.
59. Hans Sitt (3) hire a hardhat; library in 7 not 20.
60. Max van der Rose (2) hire a hardhat; library in 7 not 20.
61. Heinrich Finck (2) hire a hardhat; arty to library in 7.
62. Hermann Finck (2) hire a hardhat; arty to library in 7.
63. Hans Bottermund (2) hire a hardhat; arty to library in 7.
64. Werner Bochmann (3) hire a hardhat; arty to library in 8.
65. Sebastian Bodinus (3) hire a hardhat; arty to library in 8.
66. Dieter Bohlen (2) hire a hardhat; arty to library in 8.
67. Carl Bohm (4) hire two hardhats; arty to library in 5.
68. Georg Bohm (3) hire a hardhat; arty to library in 6.
69. Hans Pfitzner (3) hire a hardhat; arty to libary in 7.
70. Nicolaus Bruhns (2) hire a hardhat; arty to library in 10.
71. Maria von Paradis (2) hire a hardhat; arty to library in 11.
72. x Entremont (7) taxmen to hardhats; worker to library in 4.

We sell a bunch of barracks.

Whew!

I started this at 9:30 am and planned to spend about 30 minutes on the preflight. I had 10 minutes to go and then I started cycling through the cities. I get back to Richard Wagner and check the time; it is 11:30!

I don't know of any game help that tells you how many of each improvement have been built ('Your Empire has 1 palace, three libraries, 16 barracks,...'). The only way to know is to visit each city on a royal tour. I thought we had too much artillery in the making and not enough libraries, so I changed that and used hard hats (Civil Engineers) to help. Most cities are still growing, only slower. In Feudalism this is not all bad, since smaller cities give more unit support.

Saved game as CBob03_AD_1250_End.SAV.

Long Term Goals
Be the most refined Germans on the planet.

Mid Term Goals
A library in each city.

Short Term Goals
Spam some libraries.
Complete the Ivory Railroad through Inca land.

 

[Bucephalus]

I don't know of any game help that tells you how many of each improvement have been built ('Your Empire has 1 palace, three libraries, 16 barracks,...'). The only way to know is to visit each city on a royal tour.

lurker's comment:

CAII does it, after a fashion; if you look on the 'economy' setting, there is a list of all the cities. Each city improvement already built - and those still to be built - are represented by check boxes, ticked or not ticked.