Returning Lurker
Prince
America - 22
Arabia - 21
Australia - 14
Aztec - 22
Brazil -18
China - 14
Egypt - 18
England - 21-3=18
France - 12
Germany - 18
Greece - 21+1=22
India - 12
Japan - 21
Kongo - 14
Macedon - 17
Persia - 14
Poland - 18
Rome - 19
Russia - 21
Scythia - 17
Spain - 20
Sumer - 12
"It belongs in a museum!" isn't the first thing that comes to mind when thinking of England. Yes for a very brief and relatively recent period England was obsessed with stockpiling curios and relics from around the world, often without their owners' permission, but it seems extremely weird to base the entire civilization's bonus off of that fact as it really isn't what I would consider to be the defining characteristic of their culture even during their collector phase (it was more "Imperialism" while gathering up all the relics they filched was just a byproduct of that). Next comes Victoria's unique unit which doesn't really make sense as the redcoats were around way before Victoria came to power so making them a unique aspect of her rulership specifically doesn't make sense and they even gave the unit's model the classic tricorne hat and muskets of the revolutionary era rather than anything they would have wielded or worn during her era so you can't even say they're HER redcoats. Next the Royal Navy Dockyard... okay? Seems like a very weak nod at England's historic naval power and trade influence and also isn't particularly emblematic of England as they weren't known for having more or less sophisticated docks than other colonial powers just more of them in more strategic locations. Last thing that bothers me is the agenda. Likes people she shares a continent with? Is that some kind of a joke? Is England particularly well known for getting along with France, Spain, Portugal, Germany, the Dutch, the Italians, the Danes, the Russians, etc? Because if that was England getting chummy with people then their idea of what friends are is way out of wack. The Sea Dog and the first half of Pax Britannica are fine but everything else grinds my gears.
As for Greece I like how they represented the differences in ideology and culture between the city states with their multiple leaders with abilities fitting for their character built on a solid "Greek" foundation. No matter which leader you choose you feel like you're playing Greece while still having enough differences to make them unique.
Arabia - 21
Australia - 14
Aztec - 22
Brazil -18
China - 14
Egypt - 18
England - 21-3=18
France - 12
Germany - 18
Greece - 21+1=22
India - 12
Japan - 21
Kongo - 14
Macedon - 17
Persia - 14
Poland - 18
Rome - 19
Russia - 21
Scythia - 17
Spain - 20
Sumer - 12
"It belongs in a museum!" isn't the first thing that comes to mind when thinking of England. Yes for a very brief and relatively recent period England was obsessed with stockpiling curios and relics from around the world, often without their owners' permission, but it seems extremely weird to base the entire civilization's bonus off of that fact as it really isn't what I would consider to be the defining characteristic of their culture even during their collector phase (it was more "Imperialism" while gathering up all the relics they filched was just a byproduct of that). Next comes Victoria's unique unit which doesn't really make sense as the redcoats were around way before Victoria came to power so making them a unique aspect of her rulership specifically doesn't make sense and they even gave the unit's model the classic tricorne hat and muskets of the revolutionary era rather than anything they would have wielded or worn during her era so you can't even say they're HER redcoats. Next the Royal Navy Dockyard... okay? Seems like a very weak nod at England's historic naval power and trade influence and also isn't particularly emblematic of England as they weren't known for having more or less sophisticated docks than other colonial powers just more of them in more strategic locations. Last thing that bothers me is the agenda. Likes people she shares a continent with? Is that some kind of a joke? Is England particularly well known for getting along with France, Spain, Portugal, Germany, the Dutch, the Italians, the Danes, the Russians, etc? Because if that was England getting chummy with people then their idea of what friends are is way out of wack. The Sea Dog and the first half of Pax Britannica are fine but everything else grinds my gears.
As for Greece I like how they represented the differences in ideology and culture between the city states with their multiple leaders with abilities fitting for their character built on a solid "Greek" foundation. No matter which leader you choose you feel like you're playing Greece while still having enough differences to make them unique.
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