Returning Lurker
Prince
America = 25
Arabia = 23
Australia = 15
Aztec = 22
Brazil =7
China = 12
Egypt = 9
England = 3
Germany = 20
Greece =16
India = 14
Japan = 24
Kongo = 11
Macedon = 5
Persia = 8-3=5
Poland = 15
Rome = 22+1=23
Russia = 22
Spain = 17
As much as I'd love to eliminate England I'm going to give someone else that honor since, at the very least, I can kind of see why they made England the way it is. They needed an expansive culture side. They had their tutler culture sides (Kongo, China) they had their early game culture sides (Egypt, China), their mid game culture side (France), and their late game Culture side (America) but none of those really promote expansion other than maybe America but even then it just wants you to Manifest Destiny your own continent then defend it rather than actively going out to other continents and "acquiring" their antiques. I can see why England was needed even if it meant twisting their representation into a knot. Persia, however, didn't need to be butchered like it did. The game already had plenty of early game warmongers (Scythia, Aztecs, Sumeria, Macedon, Gorgo's Greece, and Rome isn't too shabby either) and on top of that the Persians were released RIGHT NEXT TO A SIDE THAT MAKES THEM REDUNDANT! Why make Persia so heavily focused on warmongering if you're going to release them right next to Alexander the civ?... I mean Macedon? It is such a waste of potential, it's like they just wanted people to stop complaining about how insignificant Scythia was so to give them some street cred they turned Cyrus the Great, one of the most socially liberal (was one of the first emperors who actually cared about human rights and passed laws to protect them) and judicially fair leaders of his time (extended religious and cultural freedom to the entire empire to the point where the Jewish religion considers him a savior and is the only non Jew recognized as a messiah), into a raging sociopath who does nothing but stab his friends in the back and burn down foreign cities to bolster his own empire like a cartoon villain. Just so Tomyris could seem legit. Yes, Cyrus did do a lot of war but not only was most of it formal wars as he gave enemies the option of surrendering immediately before any fighting was done (since rebuilding infrastructure, reestablishing local government, and restocking city guards is a logistical hassle) but on top of that it's just one of the many things he is known for and focusing his entire character and agenda on it when we have so many early game warmongers and on top of that you're just going to release Alexander the civ in the same pack it's just... just a shame.
As for Rome I just feel they hit all the important notes without being redundant or too cliche. It's got enough modifiers to help it in every field Rome was known for and sets you up to make your very own great and continuous empire. Well done.
Arabia = 23
Australia = 15
Aztec = 22
Brazil =7
China = 12
Egypt = 9
England = 3
Germany = 20
Greece =16
India = 14
Japan = 24
Kongo = 11
Macedon = 5
Persia = 8-3=5
Poland = 15
Rome = 22+1=23
Russia = 22
Spain = 17
As much as I'd love to eliminate England I'm going to give someone else that honor since, at the very least, I can kind of see why they made England the way it is. They needed an expansive culture side. They had their tutler culture sides (Kongo, China) they had their early game culture sides (Egypt, China), their mid game culture side (France), and their late game Culture side (America) but none of those really promote expansion other than maybe America but even then it just wants you to Manifest Destiny your own continent then defend it rather than actively going out to other continents and "acquiring" their antiques. I can see why England was needed even if it meant twisting their representation into a knot. Persia, however, didn't need to be butchered like it did. The game already had plenty of early game warmongers (Scythia, Aztecs, Sumeria, Macedon, Gorgo's Greece, and Rome isn't too shabby either) and on top of that the Persians were released RIGHT NEXT TO A SIDE THAT MAKES THEM REDUNDANT! Why make Persia so heavily focused on warmongering if you're going to release them right next to Alexander the civ?... I mean Macedon? It is such a waste of potential, it's like they just wanted people to stop complaining about how insignificant Scythia was so to give them some street cred they turned Cyrus the Great, one of the most socially liberal (was one of the first emperors who actually cared about human rights and passed laws to protect them) and judicially fair leaders of his time (extended religious and cultural freedom to the entire empire to the point where the Jewish religion considers him a savior and is the only non Jew recognized as a messiah), into a raging sociopath who does nothing but stab his friends in the back and burn down foreign cities to bolster his own empire like a cartoon villain. Just so Tomyris could seem legit. Yes, Cyrus did do a lot of war but not only was most of it formal wars as he gave enemies the option of surrendering immediately before any fighting was done (since rebuilding infrastructure, reestablishing local government, and restocking city guards is a logistical hassle) but on top of that it's just one of the many things he is known for and focusing his entire character and agenda on it when we have so many early game warmongers and on top of that you're just going to release Alexander the civ in the same pack it's just... just a shame.
As for Rome I just feel they hit all the important notes without being redundant or too cliche. It's got enough modifiers to help it in every field Rome was known for and sets you up to make your very own great and continuous empire. Well done.
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