So what are you offering them now?
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the same thing slaves should have gotten back then, freedom... with no strings attached
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Baptiste_Henri_Lacordaire#QuotesHenri-Dominique Lacordaire said:
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slaves were oppressed by freedom and not the law that empowered their owners?
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The majority of slaves were essentially cheap uneducated labour force, were talking about what a third of the population needing employment with near zero skills and little prospect of bettering themselves
Lincolns offer of farmland and an old army mule might not be much by todays standards but it would have helped a great many former farm slaves into a better life.
Who knows what other steps Lincoln might have done, had he not been assassinated.
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Lincoln's offer was a death sentence for western Indians
Well, the slaves were oppressed because the law failed to outlaw slavery. I.e. it gave the freedom to oppress.
Back to Popper's paradox, as usual.
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Most of the public lands left wasnt really suitable for farming and agriculture Linlcon realized that there was a limited amount of usable free land
Looking at it the best option was that Blacks should be entitled to prime farm land which they themselves worked on taken away from the wealthy exploitative slave owners. Shermans idea the confiscate the slave lands by the Federal government and then lease them back to the blacks would also have been a workable solution.
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on the leaks of the British Ambrassador : Let me assure people that they are mistaken . Under the guise of criticism , it gives Trump a yet another phony victory ; expect his voter base to assume , by the next month or come September that it was Trump who replaced Theresa May after she couldn't control her useless bureucrats , or however you spell the word . Trump being the guy who included Air Force One in the parade , because American Military was not the strongest in the world when he took oath on Jan 20 , 2017 , but it's number 1 now , only thanks to Trump .
oh and say this with full confidence that the Foreign Office in London has seen things and is out to get people once again : How many times do ı have to say Sun always sets in the end ? Considering their betters were seen , like before they were even born .
oh and say this with full confidence that the Foreign Office in London has seen things and is out to get people once again : How many times do ı have to say Sun always sets in the end ? Considering their betters were seen , like before they were even born .
So... monetary reparations and/or land/real estate grants, coupled with lifelong tax exemptions? Or just more words, words, words?
EDIT: If its the former, please don't forget to link to the Libertarian candidate for POTUS advocating same... or stay silent... either/or.
And with that comment you've provided an exceptionally timely and strikingly on-the-nose example of this:
In other words "racism was 150 years ago... so stop talking about it in a current events thread...."
See @Lexicus? ... I'm thinking folks would rather take the money... cause people are already susceptible to the "slavery=racism and slavery is 150 years ago so racism is 150 years ago" narrative.
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The existence of a law is never a necessary condition for slavery. The absence of a law will result in slavery.
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freedom - the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint.
slavery is a restraint
slavery is a restraint
If freedom for some is unlimited, they will use it to take freedom for others. You don't get perfectly complete freedom for all. All must have some limitations on their freedom for all to have some freedom.
Forget the chattel slavery of the past for a moment. Modern sex trafficking doesn't work because the law allows it. It works because the law doesn't stop it. Even though there are laws on the books making it a crime, enforcement is not sufficient to actually prevent it from happening.
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freedom - the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint.
taking freedom from someone else is a restraint
taking freedom from someone else is a restraint
I'm not saying racism is only a thing of the 19th Century, far from it, but discussing what Lincoln may or may not have done can't possibly be considered recent politics.
OK. But given this context:
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doesn't mention or discuss Abraham Lincoln. Or was your post directed at someone else / missing a quote?
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