Crash Course World History

[Angst]

depending on the episode:

misinformation
irritatingly superior style of discussion
infantile "jokes"
annoyingly cutesy graphics
the "please punch me in the face" vibe that the presenter gives off

You are so bitter and prideful at times. Cheer up man.

 

[Crezth]

That was cold!!! You're just jealous of my Super Saiyan swagger... And for the record, us disagreeing does not equal teaching lol. Because I am usually right.

USA vs CSA gogogogo

 

[Tee Kay]

Wrong thread

 

[Kaitzilla]

^ Totally agree with all three points.

Also, this is a more entertainment-oriented alternative.

The entire history of the universe in facebook format

Only 1000 hours to create probably!

Liked the final comment made by The Universe.

 

[Gen.Mannerheim]

The entire history of the universe in facebook format

Only 1000 hours to create probably!

Liked the final comment made by The Universe.

The fact that the icon for Historians is Shelby Foote is just plain awesome.

 

[keli]

I would say it is quite fun to watch but should not be taken really seriously. But it is probably because you just can not summarize world history in 15 minute brackets without leaving out informations or bending the truth a bit.

 

[NedimNapoleon]

Hes doing American History now, I like the shows even though I know most of the stuff but I dislike his usage of Indians.

 

[Angst]

I think it's pretty good as it is meant for, actually. It will definitely help new people get into history.

Come on now, we all thought feudalism was a thing once, (Not general we, but personal we, when we were younger) and the ideas aren't that far off afaik. Of course it's not even high school exam level, but more than most people actually know or care about, and he makes it interesting.

 

[Traitorfish]

Hes doing American History now, I like the shows even though I know most of the stuff but I dislike his usage of Indians.

Do you mean the word "Indians", or how he uses Indian peoples in his narratives?

 

[NedimNapoleon]

He uses Indians to describe native Americans. I dont like it.

 

[Zack]

"Native Americans" isn't a very good term, either. Anyone and everyone born in America is a native American, regardless of ethnicity or when they were born. "Indigenous Americans" would be a much better term, but no one uses that.

 

[NedimNapoleon]

I agree Zack.

 

[Traitorfish]

He uses Indians to describe native Americans. I dont like it.

Why's that? It's the standard nomenclature in American history, and a majority of American citizens of indigenous descent identify as "Indian" or "American Indian" on the census. He's really just going with the convention.

"Native Americans" isn't a very good term, either. Anyone and everyone born in America is a native American, regardless of ethnicity or when they were born. "Indigenous Americans" would be a much better term, but no one uses that.

The capitalisation of "Native" implies that the nativeness in question adheres to the ethnic group and not the individual, so that's not a very strong objection. It's like claiming that horses are native to the America, because most American horses were born there; true on its own terms, but rather missing the point.

 

[NedimNapoleon]

Its rather confusing. I really dont understand why the Indigenous American population accepted that name when its a rather large naming mistake.

I also have a problem with the term West Indies. I assume the name was given by people because they sailed west to reach the Indies [India] but if they sailed west wouldn't they have reached the most eastern part of India....not the most Western?

 

[Phrossack]

Let's just compromise and call the people from India Cossacks. That way there will be no confusion.

 

[Zack]

The capitalisation of "Native" implies that the nativeness in question adheres to the ethnic group and not the individual, so that's not a very strong objection. It's like claiming that horses are native to the America, because most American horses were born there; true on its own terms, but rather missing the point.

If you're using it in that sense, you might as well say we're all Native Water-Dwellers, since that is where all of humanity originally came from.

 

[Borachio]

Its rather confusing. I really dont understand why the Indigenous American population accepted that name when its a rather large naming mistake.

I also have a problem with the term West Indies. I assume the name was given by people because they sailed west to reach the Indies [India] but if they sailed west wouldn't they have reached the most eastern part of India....not the most Western?

You're right, of course.

Just don't mention the Windward and the Leeward Isles, if you don't want to confuse me totally.

 

[Traitorfish]

Its rather confusing. I really dont understand why the Indigenous American population accepted that name when its a rather large naming mistake.

Why does that make a difference? "Negro" is perfectly accurate, yet for some reason that's not at all in fashion. What matters is how the word is used today, not its etymology.

I also have a problem with the term West Indies. I assume the name was given by people because they sailed west to reach the Indies [India] but if they sailed west wouldn't they have reached the most eastern part of India....not the most Western?

The term comes from the fact that the Spanish continued to describe the Americas as "the Indies" for a few centuries after Columbus. The British eventually adopted the term in reference to the Caribbean specifically, although I'm not sure why.

If you're using it in that sense, you might as well say we're all Native Water-Dwellers, since that is where all of humanity originally came from.

Strictly, yes. But what use would that be to anyone? The point is to locate ethnic groups and individuals within comprehensible historical narratives, not just accuracy for its own sake.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Watched the episode on Ancient Mesopotamia and i found myself wanting to unlearn everything he said just to spite him. Half the episode was just 'hip' references and 'cool' jokes and when he got to the history parts he just sped up until he could get to the 'hip' parts again.

I liked the cutesy graphics tho ^_^ But somehow they felt out of place within the episode. Well, the history parts also felt out of place within the episode ...

I should also note that i'm currently listening to Scott Chesworth's History of the Ancient World podcast; and seeing the crash course episode left me sad and confused.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Yes, because if there's one thing that we at CFC can't stand, it's talking in a superior tone.

Of course not. Because other people don't know how to do it properly.