Daily Mail: Right wingers are less intelligent and more racist than Left wingers

[Core Imposter]

We have to be amazed at these results.

How can it be?

I would have wagered $10,000 that a study by radical left wing elites would have found that left wingers were less intellegent and more racist than right wingers.

There should be an inquiry into this odd result.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

Correct me if I am wrong but as far as I can see, they didn't look at social conservatives either. They looked at people who scored poorly on IQ tests as children and what their political opinions where as adults, using some group of brainwashed over-educated lefty idiots as a control.

No, that's not what they did at all. There's no separate control group in this survey because the comparison is between left and right wing. And no, they evaluated all the members of the cohorts.

I would have wagered $10,000 that a study by radical left wing elites would have found that left wingers were less intellegent and more racist than right wingers.

Do you have a specific problem with the study procedures and parameters?

 

[aronnax]

using some group of brainwashed over-educated lefty idiots as a control.

Education is brainwashing people to the left! This keeps getting better and better.


I want to believe this is true, but I feel that there are too many other factors for it to not be accurate. The article said that 'socio-economic' factors were taken out but they didn't say how. I feel that the family background and the school they go into would have larger reinforcements on their views than intelligence.
However, I suppose it is not that big of a jump for less intelligent people to be less open-minded and thus more likely to drift right in their social views.

 

[Murky]

They have it backwards. Being right-wing doesn't make you less intelligent. Being less intelligent or just being uninformed is more likely to result in taking right-wing positions on the issues.

 

[Abegweit]

Really.

So what does that make bankers and CEOs, many of whom are conservatives and liberal arts majors?

I was a liberal arts major. Political science, to be precise. A ******** Marxist who sucked up all the crud I was taught. Now, I am not rich in any sense but I get by. Decent middle-class job out in the productive sector. I moved on from my early mistakes as did said bankers and CEOs. They, apparently, did it better than me.

It's the people who still believe the lies and who believe that their degree somehow entitles them to the good life that I was talking about. Invariably such people either work at Starbucks or in the Parasite Professions.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

Like banking?

 

[Core Imposter]

The definition of conservative and liberal have changed more than a little since JSM's day. Back then a liberal was a believer in liberty, which of course is where the word came from. And a conservative (in Britain at least) was someone who supported the entrenched power structure and class divisions. In that world, anyone who was a conservative and wasn't a member of the elite had to be pretty stupid.

In today's America the liberals are the elite and the conservatives, incoherently it's true, are attempting to fight back. As just one example, liberals support massive theft to bail out Wall Street while conservatives strongly oppose it. In a real sense the positions of liberals and conservative are completely opposite to what they were 150 years ago and the lines between the two will hopefully become even stronger in the years to come.

Good observation.

 

[Zelig]

It's the people who still believe the lies and who believe that their degree somehow entitles them to the good life that I was talking about. Invariably such people either work at Starbucks or in the Parasite Professions.

I don't think my degree entitles me to the good life, I think being smarter than most people entitles me to the good life.

And my life is good.

 

[Quackers]

I quite like gamers They pay my wages.

Whats the best game your firm has made?

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[ParadigmShifter]

Probably the one that won the BAFTA award.

EDIT: It was better than the follow up which only won an award in Germany, it was some kind of perspex mouse I think.

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[Quackers]

Is it Resident Evil, Starcraft, Goldeneye, Age of Empires, Call of Duty, Civlizatiom, Deus Ex, Sw:tor, Zelda, F-Zero, Warcraft, Championship/Football manager? A few other titles too, but anything else is meh.

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[ParadigmShifter]

Nope. Someone who works for us did his sandwich year thing at sports interactive, he said the code was terrible

At least the bosses support Everton and make them artificially better than they are in the game though

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[Chibiabos]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...conservative-politics-lead-people-racist.html



Before we start, this article is in the Daily Fail, so you can't exactly accuse it of left-wing bias. So let's get that out of the way right from the start.

So, are right wingers more stupid than left wingers? Are they more racist? Are they more homophobic? What are your opinions on this?


P.S.: The abstract: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22222219 . Thanks Babs.

Now, now ... you're fighting ignorance with ignorance. "Right wingers are less intelligent and more racist than left wingers" is not the same as "Right wingers tend to be less intelligent and more racist than left wingers," and the difference is very much the same ill that right wingers tend to stamp on minority groups ('black people iz dumb and violent becuz there iz so many black raepsists in prizon,' 'becuz there wuz this gay guy who raept a kid, all gay guys raep kidz,' etc.)

Don't prejudge and condemn a group ... I know it is human nature, as unfortunately I tend to find myself commiting prejudism as I backlash about the majority powers-that-be, but -- speaking as a liberal myself who agrees that conservatives do tend to not think things through as much as liberals tend to -- the statement 'conservatives are less intelligent than conservatives' falsely and hypocritically prejudges every conservative as being less intelligent than every liberal. I view conservatism, as practiced today and for quite a few decades, as unwise ... but I know a number of conservatives who are quite intelligent with a variety of academically impressive knowledge or skills.

 

[Abegweit]

Like banking?

That's a fair point, but it's also subtly wrong. Banking is thoroughly corrupt. The vast majority of banks today couldn't exist without the favours they have gotten from their cronies in the state (there are some exceptions). However banking, itself, is fundamentally an honourable profession.

Now that I think about it, the same is true of the academy. Fundamentally honourable but vastly corrupted by the deal it has made with the state.

So let me try again. As I said earlier, the difference is that folks in the academy use their worthless qualifications as a justification to steal from ordinary folk. Bankers, in contrast, try to hide their youthful stupidity and use naked force.

The thing they have in common is that the state is the tool they use to steal from the rest of us. Without it, neither one could succeed.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

@ chibi: Why don't they ever post on this site then?

 

[ParadigmShifter]

That's a fair point, but it's also subtly wrong. Banking is thoroughly corrupt. The vast majority of banks today couldn't exist without the favours they have gotten from their cronies in the state (there are some exceptions). However banking, itself, is fundamentally an honourable profession.

Now that I think about it, the same is true of the academy. Fundamentally honourable but vastly corrupted by the deal it has made with the state.

So let me try again. As I said earlier, the difference is that folks in the academy use their worthless qualifications as a justification to steal from ordinary folk. Bankers, in contrast, try to hide their youthful stupidity and use naked force.

The thing they have in common is that the state is the tool they use to steal from the rest of us. Without it, neither one could succeed.

Oh, you're a lolbertarian. Never mind

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[Crezth]

I was a liberal arts major. Political science, to be precise. A ******** Marxist who sucked up all the crud I was taught. Now, I am not rich in any sense but I get by. Decent middle-class job out in the productive sector. I moved on from my early mistakes as did said bankers and CEOs. They, apparently, did it better than me.

Were you really a Marxist, or are you just saying that because you don't know what "Marxist" means?

It's the people who still believe the lies and who believe that their degree somehow entitles them to the good life that I was talking about. Invariably such people either work at Starbucks or in the Parasite Professions.

I don't think anybody thinks a degree entitles them to a good life. I do think people believe that sincere, hard work entitles them to a good life*, however. And frankly, I agree.

*"Good life" here meaning not: starving in a gutter somewhere, drowning in debt, suffering in ignominious poverty.

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[aronnax]

I find it fascinating that both Mistercooper and Abegweit think that it was the liberals alone who supported bailing out wall street when at least 91 republicans joined 170 democrats in passing the bailout in 2008 signed by republican president, George Bush.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/b...ml?partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all

Or that the elites are ruled by liberals when the poor are more likely to vote democrat in the last 3 elections and the rich, more likely to vote republican.

But if past experiences count for anything, you're just gonna ignore that facts...

 

[Abegweit]

I don't think my degree entitles me to the good life, I think being smarter than most people entitles me to the good life.

Honestly. I find that attitude to be nothing less than revolting. Hard work and honest living entitle you to the good life. Not intelligence or a degree. Those with more marketable assets are more likely to succeed. But no, intelligence does not entitle you to the good life. Using it productively does.

And my life is good.

Yeah. Why do I get this feeling that you work in the Parasite Professions?

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[ParadigmShifter]

What are these parasite professions and why do you think libruls don't work hard?