The single moms.
It's a bit optimistic to think that solar/hydrogen/whathaveyou power will be able to fully replace oil in time (IMO). It will work for some but not from the masses.Birdjaguar said:But the end of oil will be the beginning of something else! Find that wave and ride it. The back to the land communes found out that such a life was mostly hard work and involved self sacrifice to work. Low probability of success. Everyone wanted to be the leader.![]()
You're good with words. I think you'll make a fine writer someday (well, probably you already have). I like your scenerio also.varwnos said:I prefer a more Mooming-like variation: to be living in a vast countryside, dotted with few, but recognisable houses with different purposes, like in a Settlers game
I also wouldnt mind wearing a hat made of hay, and be fishing most of the time.
Sometimes i think that there is nothing worse than having endless amounts of images around you, endless information, endless fields of knowledge, endless possibilities in all directions. In the end one takes one path, after all![]()
Everyone pays their own way. Or earns their keep in someday. Freeloaders will be excommunicated.Dann said:Re: OP question
No. It would be a nightmare. How to pay for all those people's needs?
Everyone cleans up after themselves.Dann said:How to clean up?
Fair enough. But I wouldn't want to spend a lot of time with someone that, if I had to really know them I wouldn't like (or vice versa). I want all my friends to be people that I wouldn't mind being stuck together in a crisis with. Someday your bonds might be tested, might as well find out how strong they are right away. If they break, so be it.Dann said:Besides, I and my friends find each other likeable precisely because we don't live together. We only see each other's good side! Once people are living together it doesn't take long before they find out they actually can't stand each other.
To follow up...how to deal with the slackers of the herd? The biggest reason why I hated any kind of group project in classes.Dann said:Re: OP question
No. It would be a nightmare. How to pay for all those people's needs? How to clean up?
I'd agree with that. Perhaps that's why even people who want to marry should do a trial run first. At least to get an understanding of all those little things they'll do when comfortably at home.Besides, I and my friends find each other likeable precisely because we don't live together. We only see each other's good side! Once people are living together it doesn't take long before they find out they actually can't stand each other.
Narz said:I need to be a leader.
Narz said:Ever since I was a lad I used to wish I had a really big house and yard, big enough to invite all my good friends (and potential friends who I could always kick out later if they proven unworthy) to come live with me. We could all work together to keep the place in order and do fun stuff together every night. I still think about this often. Maybe I'll start an "intentional community" or something.
To follow up...how to deal with the slackers of the herd? The biggest reason why I hated any kind of group project in classes.
I agree with you. Humanity is in for a very rough ride. We're just beginning to hit the rapids now, but most people dont realise it. My advice would be to become skilled in something useful, like carpentry or metal working.Narz said:End of the oil era, disease, increasing environmental instability, war, take your pick.
The odds are against it, but good luckPersonally I look forward to it because I know I will survive.![]()
Two years is pretty impressive. I doubt most people could make it work for that long.King Flevance said:I have had this sorta. Me and my best friend were the first to get a place out of our group of friends. Which meant the group had a permanent place to crash/party when needed. It is fun for a while. But after almost 2 years I wanted something a bit less chaotic. You don't always want to do what 10 other people want to do. After a while it got old.
Not to say I don't miss those days. But I think they are more fun as early twenties memories than wanting to actually have them again.
EDIT: Also Dann pointed out a couple things that are true.
A) Everyone cleaning up after themselves sounds nice doesn't it? A perfect world maybe. Not even I do it all the time.
B) Finances would only be garaunteed stable if the house is owned before this all went down.
C) Even I found out stuff about my best friend I didn't know. I had known him since I was 12. and moved in when I was 19. I garauntee there is a trait that a friend of anyone has that makes them annoying to live with. My room mate was meticulous about money down to the penny.
(I pay bills by rounding up to the nearest 5 dollars. If the bill is 20.54, I pay 25 bucks. He would then bring me 4.46 change back if he payed it. If he went grocery shopping, he wanted like 23.94 for my half and would bring me change if I over payed. I know it doesnt sound like much but... I don't know how to explain it. It annoyed the piss out of me.)
Indeed. I plan to do an internship perhaps at this place : http://solarliving.org. Seems like a good place to learn skills. I may go to their SolFest 2006 and if I like it will perhaps go back in the winter/spring of '07 to work.Bozo Erectus said:I agree with you. Humanity is in for a very rough ride. We're just beginning to hit the rapids now, but most people dont realise it. My advice would be to become skilled in something useful, like carpentry or metal working.
You too.Bozo Erectus said:The odds are against it, but good luck![]()
So what do you dream of Husk?Chukchi Husky said:I never dream anything like that.
I used to dream that almost daily a while back also. I dream them a bit rarer now. My dreams usualy involve me killing and dieing or me killing or me dieing.Chukchi Husky said:Most of my dreams involve me dying.