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Trump accuses UK's Labour Party of 'foreign interference'​

Donald Trump's campaign has filed a Federal Election Commission (FEC) complaint against the UK's Labour Party, accusing it of "blatant foreign interference" in the US election in aid of the Harris-Walz campaign.
The complaint cites media reports about contact between Labour and the Harris campaign as well as apparent volunteering efforts, arguing that this amounts to illegal "contributions".
The BBC understands that Labour activists campaigning in the US presidential election are doing so in a personal capacity.
The Labour Party has not issued an official response.
Specifically, the complaint cites newspaper reporting that Labour-linked individuals have travelled to the US to campaign for Harris.
That reporting, the complaint alleges, creates a "reasonable inference that the Labour Party has made, and the Harris campaign has accepted, illegal foreign national contributions."
The letter refers to Washington Post reporting that communications were exchanged between the parties and that senior officials have met in private.
There is no indication that the Harris campaign was aware of, or was helping to coordinate, any Labour efforts.
Additionally, the complaint cites a social media post on LinkedIn in which a Labour staff member said that "nearly 100" current and former party members will be headed to battleground states in the US.
The post, from Labour Party head of operations Sofia Patel, added that 10 "spots" are available and that "we will sort your housing".
It appears to have since been deleted.
The complaint makes comparisons to an international programme in 2016 in which the Australian Labor Party, or ALP, sent delegates to help with Bernie Sanders' campaign.
In that instance, however, the ALP paid for flights and daily stipends. The party and the campaign were each handed down civil penalties of $14,500.
Labour activists' trips were not organised or funded by the party, it is understood from party officials.
Foreign nationals are permitted to serve as campaign volunteers as long as they are not compensated, according to FEC rules.
It is considered normal for party officials from the UK to be in contact with counterparts in the US.
It also has taken place previously between the UK's Conservative Party and US Republicans.
The BBC has contacted the Harris-Walz campaign for comment.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdjej417009o

Trump accuses UK's Labour of inspiring 'dangerously liberal' policies​

Some more details now about the foreign interference complaint filed by the Trump campaign.

A statement on the Trump-Vance campaign website, external accuses the Harris-Walz campaign of "seeking foreign influence to boost its radical message".

"The Harris campaign’s acceptance and use of this illegal foreign assistance is just another feeble attempt in a long line of anti-American election interference," the statement says.

The statement goes on to accuse the UK Labour Party of inspiring Harris's "dangerously liberal policies and rhetoric".

The complaint comes after a since-deleted post on LinkedIn from a senior Labour Party official which reportedly said: "I have nearly 100 Labour party staff, current and former, going to the US in the next few weeks, heading to North Carolina, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Virginia. I have 10 spots available for anyone available to head to the battleground state of [North] Carolina - we will sort your housing."

We're chasing the Labour Party and Harris-Walz campaign for a response to these latest developments.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cpdqw2yd00dt
 
Trump accuses Harris of foreign influence as Musk buys votes in the US for actual money. :lol:
 
Way o look at it Kamala carries Pennsylvania or something like Texas or Florida flips you can call it.

Otherwise wait for results. If Trump carries Pennsylvania it's bad for Harris but not fatal.
 
Why is Harris not going on podcasts?

Trump going on loads of podcasts to humanize himself, Kamala went on 60 minutes but who really watches that? Who even has a TV anymore? Last time I had one was 2002 (my partner has a smartTV for YouTube/Netflix but haven't watched network TV in forever).

Harris should really put herself out there to the internet masses.
 
Haters gonna hate regardless, go defend yourself. She went on Fox, now focus on the under70 demographic.

Bernie Sanders went on Rogan and likely converted a lot of people.

Normies are lost souls they'll just consume what's put in front of them, you don't feed them something good they'll gobble up rubbish.
 
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Normies are lost souls they'll just consume what's put in front of them, you don't feed them something good they'll gobble up rubbish.
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I agree with that but she's at something of a competitive disadvantage there. She goofs, which she's prone to, her brand is hurt. She's the competent candidate. Trump goofs, doesn't matter, he's the radical.

Trump's media dominance is working for him, though. A whole lot really do just gobble up whatever they get. It can be argued to be worth the risk.

Seems like her campaign is betting their ground infrastructure in swing states is gonna carry them. Trump is wildly outspent there. Paid staff vs volunteers. I'm not sure they feel they need to risk a goof, and it's possible that they feel like there's a good chance she'll make one. Maybe she herself feels that way.
 
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Funny timing, Joe always said he wouldn't have Trump but $/attention is a powerful drug
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I heard Joe mention he would be delighted to have Trump on a couple of occassions. But of course I watch those rarely, Joe’s opinions could have shifted.
 
I don't think Rogan would want Kamala as a guest (there was some talk/rumors a couple of weeks ago, that she might be there), and even if he did, she isn't the type to do well in his program. Bernie did awesomely - and afterwards Rogan said that he would vote for him (including for potus).
 
Harris has appeared on several podcasts.
 
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New Poll Suggests Gaza Ceasefire and Arms Embargo Would Help Dems with Swing State Voters

The YouGov/IMEU Policy Project poll found over a third of voters in Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Georgia are more likely to vote for a Democratic nominee who pledges to withhold weapons to Israel.
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New Poll Suggests Gaza Ceasefire and Arms Embargo Would Help Dems with Swing State Voters

The YouGov/IMEU Policy Project poll found over a third of voters in Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Georgia are more likely to vote for a Democratic nominee who pledges to withhold weapons to Israel.
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Posting this here purely as election-relevant news.

Would be interested to hear if this sways anyone who traditionally cites targeting swing voters. Typically these things moving to the right on policy, which means public sentiment on this subject must be well into bipartisan territory.
 
I don't believe the US would ever withhold arms from Israel, be either Democrats or Republicans in power.
 
For what it's worth, it's not a new poll. It was taken the week after Biden stepped aside and reported on Aug 14.
 
At Donald Trump’s rally tonight in North Carolina, Tulsi Gabbard just walked out on stage and announced that she is “joining the Republican Party.” :lol:

This was an article from yesterday, so it actually should have said: that she is “celebrating her 2 year aniversary with the Republican Party.”

After she walked off, Trump said her announcement “was a surprise.” :lol:
 
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