Election 2024 Part III: Out with the old!

[Core Imposter]

Rescinding 10 government regulations for every new regulation implemented is absolutely wild. "One in, one out" is stupid and wasteful, but ten out?! Has Trump completely lost the plot now?

This is what the majority of voters think they want.

So CFC:OT, what do we think? Will the absence of a detailed policy platform page on the Kamala campaign website lead to her losing the election, or is this a brilliant strategic maneuver to avoid being weighed down by bad-faith debates over policy specifics?

There is so little time and so few people paying attention. If she wins the debate she is golden. It will be Trump's sole chance to define her in the mind of the undecided, something he has so far failed to do because the Dems control virtually all of the media.

She is door number three. The point isn't what's inside.

 

[Core Imposter]

Debate lines for Trump:

Kamala I have a question for you. You've said you were the last one in the room with Biden, did you wake him up before you left or did you leave him in the dark?
Follow up: You know when they find a dead body its always the last one to see him alive? Have the cops questioned you yet?

Then follow up with tough talk about what did she know and when did she know it and her failure to step up until it benefited her politically. Hit that hard. Hit it.

I've bled for this country; all you've done is slept with Willie Brown. And who knows who else. (this one you hold until she gives you an opening maybe mentioning a porn star)

Some people want to know why she flip flopped on fracking. I don't ask. I know why she flipped. Pennsylvania. 19 Electoral votes. What I want to know is where is her next flop. Which will be just another in a long and distinguished line of failures.

You come from California where the Democrats have left half the people living on the street, the other half dead from fentanyl. Which you let over the border. Nice work.

Have you been to border yet? No, that's okay, I've got news. There coming for you. The deranged rapists and serial murderers are going to look up all the Democrats for handouts. They expect something for their vote, is that right?

The lines are endless and if I keep trying, I will get some good ones. I hope it's a good fight. debate.

 

[Core Imposter]

news:

In a June episode of his “Politics War Room” podcast, Carville advocated for media outlets to increase their “slanted” coverage of former President Donald Trump to prevent his reelection, claiming “the entire Constitution is in peril.” Carville reiterated this stance during a Thursday episode, shifting his focus to fact-checkers and expanding his advocacy to include Republicans generally, rather than just Trump.

“So let’s take the fact-check industry and let me tell you something, and I defy anyone to disagree on this: by 5 to 1, they would rather fact-check a misleading Democratic claim ’cause Republicans have so many … They want to say, ‘We’re just umpires, man, we just call it like [we] see it, we don’t really have anything.’ And, of course, there are times when Democrats exaggerate,” Carville said. “My thing is, how would you fact-check World War II? … They’re treating this like it’s just a normal time where you got shirts and skins and we just call ’em like we see ’em.”

“I think the whole industry has to decide: what is our role here? Is our role to be objective, impartial observers that report as accurately and fairly as we can, or is our role here to try to help save the Constitution of the United States?” he continued. “Because they’re two different things.”

MSN

 

[Snowygerry]

That all sounds very bitter, that’s never attractive, politics is (also) seduction.

 

[Core Imposter]

in other news:

the Walt Disney Company, which owns ABC, pulled its channels from DirecTV’s 11.3 million subscribers nationwide after their contract expired on Sept. 1

MSN

...which I take as a blatant attempt to keep Harris behind the curtain. Walt Disney is in on it too.

That all sounds very bitter, that’s never attractive, politics is (also) seduction.

A lot of people are very bitter about what they have put poor old Donald through. It will resonate. Trump has been blessed in this campaign. He's rightfully been able to play the unfairly hounded, the underdog, the victim, resurrected and defiant champion, and now the underdog again. The voters will make them pay.

Very seductive narrative.

 

[Snowygerry]

Given the poll above it doesn’t seem to work very well, nor are the lines you suggested typical underdog lines, rather they are bullying tactics and may well have a averse effect.

We’ll know soon enough

 

[Strong Reaction]

Well its a wrap Allan Lichtman has made his prediction on the winner of the 2024 election. Using his thirteen keys to the white house model.

Here are the keys

The 13 Keys​

1. Party mandate: After the midterm elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the US House of Representatives than after the previous midterm elections.
2. Contest: There is no serious contest for the incumbent party nomination.
3. Incumbency: The incumbent party candidate is the sitting president.
4. Third party: There is no significant third party or independent campaign.
5. Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign.
6. Long term economy: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms.
7. Policy change: The incumbent administration effects major changes in national policy.
8. Social unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term.
9. Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
10. Foreign/military failure: The incumbent administration suffers no major failure in foreign or military affairs.
11. Foreign/military success: The incumbent administration achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs.
12. Incumbent charisma: The incumbent party candidate is charismatic or a national hero.
13. Challenger charisma: The challenging party candidate is not charismatic or a national hero.

Eight of the keys are in favor of Harris, while three are in favor of Trump.

Historian who accurately predicted 9 of last 10 presidential elections makes his 2024 pick

Historian Allan Lichtman has announced his prediction on whether Donald Trump or Kamala Harris will win the 2024 presidential election.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Snowygerry]

And you're from California too ?

"..where the Democrats have left half the people living on the street, the other half dead from fentanyl. Which [Harris] let over the border. "

I take it CI was exaggerating a bit above then ?

 

[choxorn]

There seems to be a set of British who see that there is a "special relationship" between the US and Britain, that's different from the rest of Europe, because Britain isn't really in Europe.

Americans are very puzzled by this.

Britain: "We have a special relationship! We were a great empire, and we're better than those silly Europeans!"

America: "Okay dad, time to go to bed now, and have you been taking your pills?"

 

[Arakhor]

I take it CI was exaggerating a bit above then ?

I suggest liberal amounts of salt when reading this thread.

 

[Snowygerry]

It has been said that the wish is the father of the thought, and there seems to be a fair amount of evidence for that in this thread,

I stand by my vote for "Too early to tell"

 

[Core Imposter]

I don't see any of those keys that are in Harris's favor.

We are entering the era of the Curse of Dark Brandon. You reap what you sow.

edit: there is such polarization in the country that you could never find agreement on what those points mean for this election and metrics are all but meaningless because of the effect of income inequality...the result of an economic system rigged in favor of white liberal elites

 

[JollyRoger]

So someone is going to grab Trump's campaign by the Vance?

 

[Sommerswerd]

This is the dawning of the era of Aquarius... age of Aquariuuuuuus!

Aquariuuuuuussss!!... A-qua-ri-uuuuuussss!!! ... AQUARIUS!!!

 

[Narz]

Oh my YT feed I noticed Trump was on Lex Friedman podcast. I didn't listen cuz not particularly keen to hear Trump speak for 3 hours.

You think he'll have Kamala on?

Right before Trump episode he had Cenk Uger(?), I didn't listen to that one either (has he even dropped out yet/been informed he's not allowed to run?).

 

[Core Imposter]

If the Democrats do win it would likely be because so many liberals have moved into the battleground states because Democratic policies have made their former states unaffordable, unsafe unlivable and incompatible for mid-size and small businesses. Ironic.

We are getting a ton of that here.

 

[JollyRoger]

I know. New York is so bad . . . who would even send their kid to college there?

 

[Bamspeedy]

Well its a wrap Allan Lichtman has made his prediction on the winner of the 2024 election. Using his thirteen keys to the white house model.

Here are the keys

The 13 Keys​

1. Party mandate: After the midterm elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the US House of Representatives than after the previous midterm elections.
2. Contest: There is no serious contest for the incumbent party nomination.
3. Incumbency: The incumbent party candidate is the sitting president.
4. Third party: There is no significant third party or independent campaign.
5. Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign.
6. Long term economy: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms.
7. Policy change: The incumbent administration effects major changes in national policy.
8. Social unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term.
9. Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
10. Foreign/military failure: The incumbent administration suffers no major failure in foreign or military affairs.
11. Foreign/military success: The incumbent administration achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs.
12. Incumbent charisma: The incumbent party candidate is charismatic or a national hero.
13. Challenger charisma: The challenging party candidate is not charismatic or a national hero.

Eight of the keys are in favor of Harris, while three are in favor of Trump.

Historian who accurately predicted 9 of last 10 presidential elections makes his 2024 pick

Historian Allan Lichtman has announced his prediction on whether Donald Trump or Kamala Harris will win the 2024 presidential election.

www.usatoday.com

So, is this model based on popular vote, or electoral college? Will he 'change' which his prediction is based on after he sees the result?

Allan Lichtman is Famous for Correctly Predicting the 2016 Election. The Problem? He Didn’t

The history professor is one of the few credited with predicting Trump’s 2016 win. There’s just one problem: he’s rewritten history to obfuscate that his model only predicted the popular vote…

thepostrider.com

 

[Core Imposter]

I know. New York is so bad . . . who would even send their kid to college there?

I have no idea why a parent would allow that. There is just no upside. Can you imagine?

 

[danjuno]

Could be worse, could send 'em to Texas.