Election 2024 Part III: Out with the old!

[Strong Reaction]

Thats no NBA player, thats Barron Trump.

I was trolling, I know who it is. Anyone his size should be playing basketball, gotta have a certain level of toughness and a little athletic ability though. Hes got the size in spades.

 

[Bamspeedy]

I was trolling, I know who it is. Anyone his size should be playing basketball, gotta have a certain level of toughness and a little athletic ability though. Hes got the size in spades.

Yeah, but apparently he preferred soccer.....

 

[EnglishEdward]

... You might as well elect Mickey Mouse.

When I realised he'd won, I whats app'd my family:

"It seems like Donald Duck is back"

 

[Snowygerry]

People voting for Trump "because he's funny" was probably somewhat true in 2016. Today, he's both much less fun (age definitely taking its toll) and has a much darker legacy. It's not about laughing anymore. The scale of his victory seems to imply a definite vote "against" and a strong rejection of something from the other side.

Well yes, presumably they think it is funny to see the shocked reaction from the people that are horrified by him.

You can also see some of it here on the CFC.

 

[caketastydelish]

I disagree I don't think MIckey Mouse would be a rapist amongst other things.

 

[Snowygerry]

The original voice was Walt Disney himself iirc, don't know of his private life but he was certainly suspected of fascist or imperialist sympathies, and racist tendencies in his work.

Apparently when asked if he would run for office, he replied "Why would I, I'm already King here.."

The Elon Musk of his time

 

[Narz]

I wonder if he'll really put RFK in charge or health.

Food safety is abysmal but generally Republicans are happy to throw regulations to the wayside and put any and every chemical into the food supply to make more money for the corporations.

 

[caketastydelish]

The original voice was Walt Disney himself iirc, don't know of his private life but he was certainly suspected of fascist or imperialist sympathies, and racist tendencies in his work.

Apparently when asked if he would run for office, he replied "Why would I, I'm already King here.."

The Elon Musk of his time

Elon Musk is in the space and automotive industries, and tech. Disney is entertainment.

 

[caketastydelish]

I wonder if he'll really put RFK in charge or health.

Food safety is abysmal but generally Republicans are happy to throw regulations to the wayside and put any and every chemical into the food supply to make more money for the corporations.

RFK thinks (or at least says he thinks) vaccines cause autism and other debunked myths and is against covid vaccines.

 

[Snowygerry]

Elon Musk is in the space and automotive industries, and tech. Disney is entertainment.

But both think that their wealth put them above the law and look down on elected politicians.

Edit, did some quick research, while intended as a joke, the similarities run deeper than I suspected...

The basis for this as well as the claim of his racism stems primarily from the 1941 Animators Strike, which is the starting source for many criticisms about Disney. As his biographer Neal Gabler (2009) writes, “Disney came by those enemies honestly when his animators staged a strike in 1941 complaining of paternalism and low wages and Walt responded by hustling the supposed union ringleaders off the lot and firing other union members to quash their organizing. Even after the four-month-long strike was settled — under duress by the federal government — the wounds did not heal. Disney would feel betrayed for the rest of his life by what he saw as ungrateful employees. The aggrieved employees got their own measure of revenge by portraying Walt thereafter in the least flattering light.

The Politics of Walt Disney: Truth and Myth

The Disney Corporation has as of late been playing a game of duality with the American public: woke in the United States, and accepting of anything from nations whose policies are far more racist a…

fascinatingpolitics.com

 

[Gori the Grey]

This demonisation of the Donald didn't stop him getting elected in 2016 or 2024,
but then I suppose its an if whipping the boy don't cure him, whip him some more.

But dangnabbit if our demonization isn't going to stop him in 2028!

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

It's true. Vance calling Trump Hitler didn't stop him getting elected in 2016, or 2024.
On the other hand Trump being a complete asshat didn't stop him getting elected in 2016, or 2024 either.

 

[Takhisis]

Democrats think they have an inevitability mandate. That's they're main problem.

That is indeed. It just makes them comfortable about waffling on anything because the conventional wisdom, as Mr. Sommerswerd, J.D., has explained, is that they can be even more ‘moderate’.

So having had eight years of varieties on we hate Donald Trump in this forum,

Since he started his bid for the presidency in 2015, that's nine years and a half.

But dangnabbit if our demonization isn't going to stop him in 2028!

Hah! I have news for you. According to the US Constitution™, the American electorate has made certain that Trump cannot be elected again in 2028.

 

[caketastydelish]

That is indeed. It just makes them comfortable about waffling on anything because the conventional wisdom, as Mr. Sommerswerd, J.D., has explained, is that they can be even more ‘moderate’.

Since he started his bid for the presidency in 2015, that's nine years and a half.

Hah! I have news for you. According to the US Constitution™, the American electorate has made certain that Trump cannot be elected again in 2028.

Even without that variable Trump will be too old for another term. The real question is how much influence will Trumpism have on the GOP after his second term is done.

 

[Takhisis]

Well… based on my ample experience of living under South American caudillos, I think that the most likely course of action for a post-Trump GOP is to simply look for new Trumps. He's reshaped the party to his needs and the party needs a Trump. All he's done is complete the transformation begun under Nixon sixty years ago.

 

[Gori the Grey]

I think that the most likely course of action for a post-Trump GOP is to simply look for new Trumps.

I'll repeat my contention thatI believe they won't find one. I think people think they know what makes Trump so successful, and so there will be imitators. But I think that what does make him successful is a combination of traits, so most imitators will settle on the one or two that they believe are crucial, neglect the others, and so fail to capture the Trump magic (and come off as wannabees to boot). And some of the traits are well-nigh inimitable.

I'm not arguing that someone won't eventually emerge after Trump, and I'm not arguing that the next person who does prove successful with right-leaning voters might not be even worse than Trump. I'm just arguing that there will be a period in which a bunch of people try to be deutero-Trumps and fail.

 

[Senethro]

Going purely by vibes, I don't think Trump will care to appoint a successor (unless hes planning on doing the Putin/Medvedev switcheroo)

 

[Voidwalkin]

I'll repeat my contention thatI believe they won't find one. I think people think they know what makes Trump so successful, and so there will be imitators. But I think that what does make him successful is a combination of traits, so most imitators will settle on the one or two that they believe are crucial, neglect the others, and so fail to capture the Trump magic (and come off as wannabees to boot). And some of the traits are well-nigh inimitable.

I'm not arguing that someone won't eventually emerge after Trump, and I'm not arguing that the next person who does prove successful with right-leaning voters might not be even worse than Trump. I'm just arguing that there will be a period in which a bunch of people try to be deutero-Trumps and fail.

Yep.

If it were so easy, someone woulda already done it. Trump spent a lifetime honing that combatative style and has a natural personality inclination towards it. It can't be so easily imitated.

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

The next Trump is probably some 34 year old d-bag who right now is on Love is Blind or something. Truly have to have that reality TV popularity boost.

 

[Voidwalkin]

The next Trump is probably some 34 year old d-bag who right now is on Love is Blind or something. Truly have to have that reality TV popularity boost.

Rogan.