Zardnaar
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It's only online you see it. As I said I don't care if someone wants to use it.
Latinos dont generally use it themselves. It's more how out of touch people are. You got reamed because of it.
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It's only online you see it. As I said I don't care if someone wants to use it.
Latinos dont generally use it themselves. It's more how out of touch people are. You got reamed because of it.
This is a third different argument from the original claim of "forcing people to use it".
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I think that is the central problem with issuing terms that define a group of people. First the group gets to define itself. Its a bit paternalistic and disrespectful to define a group of people without their consent. So of course Latin/Hispanic people are not going to define themselves as such, at least not the majority of them . Democrats assume they will vote for them and for the most part the majority do, however enough have been peeled away, for a variety of reasons, to make a significant difference in elections. It all has to do with world view, gender roles, religion, values, traditions etc. You just cant ignore that. Know your voters ffs. The 4% who do use that term good on them. I think it amounts to 1.9 million which is not an insignificant number.
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I'm not sure who is nodding to that?
Is that a "No I cannot give an example of what I mean"?
Senethro
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Electoral brain trust trying to manufacture a Keir Starmer here.
Zardnaar
Deity
It was on a forum a while ago.
The term itself is stupid unless someone is using it on themselves.
Narz
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This guy references some study where people were blindly given Trump & Harris policies with no name attached and 80% chose Harris's which suggests it's a cult (or lack thereof) of personality issue.
I can't find the study he's referenced tho
Legitimately, I don't think I've ever seen anyone insisting that you absolutely have to use Latinx instead of Latino/Latina/Latin American, or if I have, it's been much less than the number of people saying not to use it because it looks and sounds dumb in Spanish and honestly less than the number of people I've seen suggest "Latine" as a gender-neutral alternative that follows Spanish grammar rules better. Like, I have met people who use the Latinx or other <group>-x identifiers to refer to themselves or others, but the number of people who use the identifier at all (and certainly the number of people who'd insist it's the only politically correct and good identifier) is way fewer than some of y'all are acting like it is. It's like the trans people in sports thing where it's somehow become a big conservative boogeyman that pretends something is much larger than it really is.
I will, admittedly, concede that some of the progressive language that puts random x's everywhere does in fact look and sound kinda dumb, but that kind of thing isn't going to make me abandon all of my political persuasions and vote right-wing just because some college activists can be a little cringy and annoying at times.
Oh, you want me to call out posters directly? Kinda have to wonder why.
Don't worry, they don't normally reply to me anyway (and that's fine).
Zardnaar
Deity
It's not going to switch the minds of the truly devoted.
The first thing we need to establish is if it exists. So far we have you referencing "a forum a while ago". If this really happened it should be easy to find, the internet never forgets. Do you think it is possible you have misremembered or interpreted?
Zardnaar
Deity
I know what forum it was in but not the thread, who posted it and when.
Zardnaar
Deity
Democrat policies are popular. Democrats are not.
If you know the words google should be able to find it.
Narz
keeping it real
Succulently put yeah
Senethro
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Not these days.
Fair enough, but if no real example example can be found I am going to go with it is not a significant social force.
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Transgender Americans brace for Trump presidency after campaign promoted anti-trans rhetoric
Trump's campaign focused on transgender issues in speeches and TV ads
Transgender Americans are bracing for attacks from the White House and in their own neighbourhoods after Donald Trump's U.S. election victory Tuesday, following a presidential campaign that promoted anti-trans rhetoric.Trump repeatedly made false claims about trans people in speeches, while his presidential campaign spent millions on campaign ads with anti-trans messaging, despite trans people making up less than one per cent of the U.S. population.
"There's no way to sugarcoat this. I've been fielding people who have wanted to end it all, in chats and messages to my inbox," Erin Reed, a journalist and trans rights activist based in Maryland, told CBC News Wednesday.
"The danger is real. Their feelings are valid, and this is just what we're dealing with right now."
Trump's policy agenda includes a ban on trans participation in women's sports and an end to federal funding for gender-affirming care.
In speeches and interviews, he has repeated false stories about children getting sex change operations at school without parental permission, among other misleading claims.
PBS reported that from Oct. 7 to 20, Trump's campaign and pro-Trump groups spent an estimated $95 million US on ads, 41 per cent of which targeted trans people.
Independent journalist collective the Bulwark estimated the Trump campaign and other groups supporting it spent up to $40 million US on anti-trans advertising in a five-week span late in the campaign.
Bulwark found the Trump campaign itself spent less than half as much on ads addressing immigration, and less than one-fifth on ads addressing the economy.
One such ad claimed Democratic candidate Kamala Harris supports "biological men" competing against girls in sports, and placed a photo of Harris next to a photo of a person with a moustache and a bald head who was wearing a red dress and lipstick. "Kamala is for they/them. President Trump is for you," was the tagline at the end of this and other similar ads.
'Blue states' will no longer be safe: activist
Reed says trans people living in Democrat-run states have been able to live "relatively peacefully and freely" over the last few years, even as anti-trans bills have been passing in Republican state legislatures amid a rise in anti-trans rhetoric.She does not expect that peace to last much longer.
"Everything that I've seen in the reddest of state legislatures, I'm expecting to see all of that at a federal level, at minimum," Reed said. "I'm expecting Trump to likely use his office to target transgender people in blue states."
- Alberta tables bills on transgender youth health care, students' pronouns, opt-in sex education
- Community members, advocates fear rise of transphobia in Sask. after election
Still, the public attacks don't seem to be resonating with a large number of voters.
In an October survey by media research group Data for Progress, most respondents, including 41 per cent of Republicans, said Republican candidates using anti-2SLGBTQ rhetoric as part of their campaigns is "sad and shameful." A majority of respondents, including 45 per cent of Republicans, said they want less government regulation of trans people's lives, including their health care.
A Gallup poll from September found transgender rights ranked last among 22 key issues influencing voters.
Transgender people make up 0.5 per cent of the U.S. adult population and 1.4 per cent of U.S. teens aged 13 to 17, according to LGBTQ research group The Williams Institute.
"I don't think that [the anti-trans messaging] is organic. I don't think that this is coming from our peers, our neighbours, the people that we speak to," Reed said. "I just think that this is a hate campaign, and people got swept up in it."
Trans Americans already facing more discrimination: advocate
Rodrigo Heng-Lehtinen, executive director of New York-based group Advocates for Trans Equality, says he similarly expects the Trump administration "to weaponize every part of the federal executive branch" against the trans community.He said the rhetoric has already fostered "an environment of hostility" and he has heard from trans people across the U.S., especially in swing states where the attack ads were prominent, who are facing more harassment and discrimination in their day-to-day lives and in their own neighbourhoods.
Heng-Lehtinen notes that physical attacks also tend to increase alongside rhetorical attacks, evidenced by a spike in hate crimes after Trump's 2016 election. Overall, FBI data shows hate crimes motivated by gender identity and sexual orientation have been on the rise in the U.S. since at least 2021.
"That is not a coincidence that when a leader of the country sends a signal that some members of our society aren't considered valuable, it opens the door for someone who does have hate in their hearts to follow through with it," he said.
- A show of Pride in Florida shines a light on the fight against anti-2SLGBTQ policies
- Democrat Sarah McBride becomes first openly transgender person elected to Congress
He said the trans community is prepared to fight back against whatever comes in the next four years.
"We will do what we have to do," he said. "Trans people, we know how to fight. So we'll be just gearing up for a new chapter of our resistance."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trans-americans-trump-1.7376153
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