Really? A long time ago I used to drive for a living, and I never had a problem in the countryside, as there are lots of bushes. The problem was towns, I used to put a little bit of petrol in the car just so I could use the toilets of a garage. I did not have the sort of time pressure you are likely to be under, though I did get told off if I did not significantly break the speed limit on motorways.
Ethics of Amazon
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Spidernova
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The problem with that is cameras, now that the van watches everything in and around it.
Bugfatty300
Buddha Squirrel
Anyone else notice the night and day difference between getting a package from a unionized UPS/USPS driver versus a "gig" driver?
In case you needed more reason to shun amazon: Factory workers threatened with firing if they left before tornado
As a catastrophic tornado approached this city Friday, employees of a candle factory — which would later be destroyed — heard the warning sirens and wanted to leave the building. But at least five workers said supervisors warned employees that they would be fired if they left their shifts early.
For hours, as word of the coming storm spread, as many as 15 workers beseeched managers to let them take shelter at their own homes, only to have their requests rebuffed, the workers said.
Fearing for their safety, some left during their shifts regardless of the repercussions.
At least eight people died in the Mayfield Consumer Products factory, which makes scented candles. The facility was leveled, and all that is left is rubble. Photos and videos of its widespread mangled remains have become symbols of the enormous destructive power of Friday’s tornado system.
Elijah Johnson, 20, was working in the back of the building when several employees wanting to head home walked in to speak with supervisors. He joined in on the request.
“I asked to leave and they told me I’d be fired,” Johnson said. “Even with the weather like this, you’re still going to fire me?” he asked.
“Yes,” a manager responded, Johnson told NBC News.
Johnson said managers went so far as to take a roll call in hopes of finding out who had left work.
For hours, as word of the coming storm spread, as many as 15 workers beseeched managers to let them take shelter at their own homes, only to have their requests rebuffed, the workers said.
Fearing for their safety, some left during their shifts regardless of the repercussions.
At least eight people died in the Mayfield Consumer Products factory, which makes scented candles. The facility was leveled, and all that is left is rubble. Photos and videos of its widespread mangled remains have become symbols of the enormous destructive power of Friday’s tornado system.
Elijah Johnson, 20, was working in the back of the building when several employees wanting to head home walked in to speak with supervisors. He joined in on the request.
“I asked to leave and they told me I’d be fired,” Johnson said. “Even with the weather like this, you’re still going to fire me?” he asked.
“Yes,” a manager responded, Johnson told NBC News.
Johnson said managers went so far as to take a roll call in hopes of finding out who had left work.
BenitoChavez
What business is it of yours?
I didn't see any mention of Amazon in that article, only Mayfield Consumer Products. Terrible nonetheless.
You are right, I am getting confused with this story about a warehouse collapse. Sorry.
Bamspeedy
CheeseBob
I've been following the Amazon story. Don't work for them, but work in a similar sized massive facility, so I can relate.
It seems their 'severe weather shelter area' isn't a shelter at all and just a open spot in middle of warehouse (nothing protecting them from flying debris). Don't know if it would have mattered, as allegedly the tornado hit right at the meeting place, and not everyone was there as there was no warning at all and people had to hide wherever they could find. And Amazon doesn't have intercom or alarm system but depends on a guy walking through with a bullhorn to tell people to seek shelter (in a building large enough to fit several football fields, even with bullhorn you can't hear someone on other side of building). At least one dead actually was inside a bathroom.
My work is better prepared than this, but again, if there really was no warning, it might not have mattered.
Tornado warnings come with almost every storm. Can't close business for every storm. Average lead warning time for tornado is 13 minutes, so often it is far less than this, so no warning at all is possible. Phone alerts go bezerk when a tornado has actually been spotted, but often these are an hour away, so people tend to ignore them. If you happened to be right where the tornado first touched down, obviously tornado has only then been spotted, and no warning.
If tornado already been spotted in area, worst thing to do is get in car, much more vulnerable there.
It seems their 'severe weather shelter area' isn't a shelter at all and just a open spot in middle of warehouse (nothing protecting them from flying debris). Don't know if it would have mattered, as allegedly the tornado hit right at the meeting place, and not everyone was there as there was no warning at all and people had to hide wherever they could find. And Amazon doesn't have intercom or alarm system but depends on a guy walking through with a bullhorn to tell people to seek shelter (in a building large enough to fit several football fields, even with bullhorn you can't hear someone on other side of building). At least one dead actually was inside a bathroom.
My work is better prepared than this, but again, if there really was no warning, it might not have mattered.
Tornado warnings come with almost every storm. Can't close business for every storm. Average lead warning time for tornado is 13 minutes, so often it is far less than this, so no warning at all is possible. Phone alerts go bezerk when a tornado has actually been spotted, but often these are an hour away, so people tend to ignore them. If you happened to be right where the tornado first touched down, obviously tornado has only then been spotted, and no warning.
If tornado already been spotted in area, worst thing to do is get in car, much more vulnerable there.
innonimatu
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What happens when doing business with Amazon.
They say something about the length of spoon you should use when supping with the devil. Exclusively working for one company is not a very long spoon.
Zardnaar
Deity
F that.
Amazon stock, now trading at about $2950/share, is likely to split 20:1 later this spring.
Narz
keeping it real
My mom wanted to buy it in 1997 when it was just sold books (maybe even just used books), she was gonna put in $1,000. My dad's friend told her not too, something along the lines of "nobody reads books anymore, everyone's gonna get their information on the internet in the future" so she didn't do it.
She is among many who missed the boat on it.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/05/if-you-invested-1000-in-amazon-in-1997-heres-what-youd-have-now.html
As impressive as that is, original investors in Amazon fare even better. If you had invested $1,000 during Amazon’s IPO in May 1997, your investment would be worth $1,362,000 as of September 4, according to CNBC calculations.
Even more today.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/05/if-you-invested-1000-in-amazon-in-1997-heres-what-youd-have-now.html
As impressive as that is, original investors in Amazon fare even better. If you had invested $1,000 during Amazon’s IPO in May 1997, your investment would be worth $1,362,000 as of September 4, according to CNBC calculations.
Even more today.
amadeus
Apply directly to the forehead
I saw back in 2008 Dillards department stores way undervalued and I was going to buy $4,000 worth of stock. Today it would be worth $270,000.
danjuno
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I've been trying to get my mom off of Amazon but she wants one place where she can go for stuff. Any recommendations?
Unfortunately a one-stop shop is difficult - it's partly why Amazon is a convenient as it is. Your best bet would be, surprisingly, something like eBay. Registered sellers can sell new / mint condition items. But it's a lot of faff to sort through.
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