It comes down to wheher or not you think that the horrors of war are worth the horrors of peace
So, why does God ignore human suffering? Well, why do YOU ignore human suffering? At those times and places when you can actually do something about human suffering, I mean.
Why do some anti-war activists oppose war? Because of the possible repercussions. And I'm pretty sure you wouldn't consider anti-war activists evil. I don't. Anti-war activists are not evil, they're just misguided.
Now answer me this: why do we have laws--and jails for people who break said laws? Primarily to scare selfish people away from breaking the law. Therefore: why do many potential lawbreakers obey the law? Because of the possible repercussions.
There ya have it, Wolfey. The same argument supports two opposite positions (Good and Evil) perfectly.
Horrors of peace?
Evolution does not deny the existence of a god. It only suggests that god is a whole lot subtler and more creative than man can imagine.
...many theists (and atheists) see evolution as a denial of a creator...
No. He just appears to be, from our limited viewpoint. As the old "immovable object vs unstoppable force" reductio ad absurdum goes, there's no such thing as an omnipotent God.
The problem there is that the descriptions of God as perfect and all-powerful were written by people. Nothing personal.![]()
Well, people were looking for a reason why a God might ignore human suffering, weren't they?So, war is bad because of the repercussions, jail are good because of possible repercussions in case we disband them? What on earth does that has to do with the current conversation?
Only in the capitalization.they are not called Gods but gods. there is a difference, BC.
But there is strong evidence for a creation point and imaginative physicists have reached "around their head to touch their ear" to think up ways that such a thing could happen. But I haven't seen much in the way of a convincing "non divine creator" either.I can only speak for myself here, but as an atheist I don't claim that evolution denies the existence of a creator. For me the kicker is that the more we (homo scientificus) learn about the natural world, the less evidence we find of a divine creator. Evolution doesn't have anything to say about the existence (or not) of god: but it has volumes to say about how all the organisms that ever lived came to be.![]()
Scientists still don't know many things about gravity. Still, I fall downBut there is strong evidence for a creation point and imaginative physicists have reached "around their head to touch their ear" to think up ways that such a thing could happen. But I haven't seen much in the way of a convincing "non divine creator" either.![]()