Expanded Great People Names (EGPNs)

[iOnlySignIn]

This is a modmodmod that includes extra and more accurate Great Peoples' names for certain civilizations - civilizations which are popular and/or capable of spawning a large number of GPs in UHV play. It is not meant to be comprehensive in any sense, unlike my Expanded Dynamic Civ Names modmodmod.

This modmodmod is merely for fun and flavor - I do not even expect Leoreth to add it to the official version.

You can download my Expanded GP Names here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/edcns/files/EGPNs/Assets.zip/download

To install, simply unzip it into your DoC folder. This is for the latest SVN versions (Version 1.11 and later). Earlier versions will not be compatible because of the recent Civics overhaul.

The goal is to have 8 - 10 names per category per civ. Suggestions are welcome.

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== List of Names ==

- China -

- France -

- America -

 

[iOnlySignIn]

[Reserved]

 

[Novicenoble]

Yes, Definitely USA needs more GP names... especially Engineers and Merchants.

 

[NorwegianSalmon]

Brigham Young and L. Ron Hubbard as American great prophets.

 

[BenZL43]

How about Joseph Smith Jr. ? Founder of Mormonism~

 

[NorwegianSalmon]

Oh yeah, he's probably better than Brigham Young.

 

[Leoreth]

Brigham Young and L. Ron Hubbard as American great prophets.

Don't forget Michele Bachmann

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

I feel a bit heartbroken looking at your list of Chinese Great Artists,
particularly Cai Wenji & Du Fu since most of them led incredibly tragic lives.

Anyways, Shen Kuo is in the list of Great Scientists.
I wholeheartedly approve after doing a paper that included him in astronomy.

About the America list, I would try to find a way to include Michael Jackson in there.
As well as Howard Pyle, the father of American illustration.
His pupil N.C. Wyeth is also of incredible note. Without him, our modern perception of pirates would be radically different.
Andy Warhol should be in as well. The only other movie director I'd place there would have to be Spielberg as well.

Hendrix has the least justification to be on that list so I would say he needs to go.
If we're limited to a specific amount of Great Artists for America, this is really going to be a tough call.
I'd say the indispensible ones are:

-Poe
-Twain
-Hemingway
-Pyle

^Those are not up to debate.
Anything else though, I'd love to discuss.

 

[iOnlySignIn]

I know very little about American visual art, so any suggestion from you would take authority over mine.

Pyle is magnificent. He's like an American Velázquez. But I've never heard of him before.

I agree about Spielberg. I even named myself after him - Steven. But some are vocally opposed to his inclusion.

There is no number limit. But if you make the list overly long the latter entries will not matter, since they spawn in order and only a limited number of GPs can be spawn in a game without cheating.

Oh, and I am confident I can come up with better Prophet names than L Ron Hubbard. No offense.

 

[Locutus_Morti]

Split the Wright Brothers in half - Wilbur and Orville.

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

Some Contributions For France

Great Artists:

-Charles Le Brun
-Alexandre Dumas
-Jacques-Louis David
-Claude Monet
-Jules Verne
-Anna Karina
-Jean Luc Godard
-Charles Perrault

Great Scientists:

-Taillevent
-Louis Pasteur
-Rene Descartes
-Emilie du Chatelet
-Marie Curie
-Pierre-Simon Laplace
-Montgolfier Brothers
-Blaise Pascal

 

[iOnlySignIn]

Split the Wright Brothers in half - Wilbur and Orville.

There are enough Engineer names to go around. Splitting the Wright Brothers will only make the list unnecessarily long and make the latter names on the list inconsequential, like just explained in my last post.

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

I know very little about American visual art, so any suggestion from you would take authority over mine.

Pyle is magnificent. He's like an American Velázquez. But I've never heard of him before.

That's fine. Just know that everything about modern American illustration, from Coca-Cola, Saturday Evening Post, to the American War Artists, ultimately trace their roots back to him.
Oh and I made a mistake concerning the pirates; Howard Pyle was the first to give them our modern perception, but N.C. Wyeth, I would say, popularized it to the point where we accept it as truth.
I have more to say on the subject, if need be. Very glad I kept notes on this.

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

What is your criteria for Great Prophet by the way?

 

[iOnlySignIn]

Needs more French Merchant names...

We currently have:

<UniqueName>Jacques Cartier</UniqueName><!-- 16th -->
<UniqueName>Samuel de Champlain</UniqueName><!-- 17th -->
<UniqueName>Coco Chanel</UniqueName><!-- 20th -->
<UniqueName>Marcel Dessault</UniqueName><!-- 20th -->

That's it.

I'll take care of Scientist and Engineer names.

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

Contributions For Japan

Great Artists:

-Murasaki Shikibu
-Fujiwara no Teika
-Chikamatsu Monzaemon
-Edogawa Rampo
-Honinbo Shusaku
-Kurosawa Akira
-Mifune Toshiro
-Murakami Haruki

 

[iOnlySignIn]

OK. After reading up about the French East India Company, French names are finished. See 2nd Post.

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

OK. After reading up about the French East India Company, French names are finished.

Prophets

<UniqueName>Pierre Abelard</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Louis IX</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Jeanne d'Arc</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Jean Calvin</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Voltaire</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Denis Diderot</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Albert Schweitzer</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Marcel Legaut</UniqueName>

Artists

<UniqueName>Charles Le Brun</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Jean-Baptiste Lully</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Victor Hugo</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Jules Verne</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Claude Monet</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Henri Matisse</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Claude Debussy</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Alexandre Dumas</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Jean Luc Godard</UniqueName>

Scientists

<UniqueName>Nicole Oresme</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Rene Descartes</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Pierre de Fermat</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Antoine Lavoisier</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Pierre-Simon Laplace</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Evariste Galois</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Louis Pasteur</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Marie Curie</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Antoine Henri Becquerel</UniqueName>

Merchants

<UniqueName>Jacques Cartier</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Samuel de Champlain</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Jean-Baptiste Colbert</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>François Caron</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Joseph François Dupleix</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Coco Chanel</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Christian Dior</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Marcel Dessault</UniqueName>

Engineers

<UniqueName>Jules Hardouin Mansart</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Blaise Pascal</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Claude Perrault</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Charles Augustin de Coulomb</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Montgolfier brothers</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Jean-Baptiste Vaquette de Gribeauval</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Nicolas Carnot</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Alexandre Gustave Eiffel</UniqueName>

Generals

<UniqueName>Charles Martel</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Godefroy de Bouillon</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Charles V</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Louis-Joseph de Montcalm</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Louis-Rene de Latouche Treville</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Joachim Murat</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Louis-Nicolas Davout</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Gilbert de Lafayette</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Jean-Luc Picard</UniqueName>

I have three things to say:

1. The only French Great Artists omission I cannot accept is that of Charles Perrault.
Tales of Mother Goose has had quite the profound impact on Western society, imo.

2. Taillevent is not a scientist per se, but I don't think laying the foundation of the
French gastronomic tradition is something to be taken lightly; plus it gives France at least one decent Medieval GS to generate.

3. No to Jean-Luc Picard. I am against the inclusion of fictional persons.

EDIT: Also, as it seems that philosophers are being included in the category of Great Prophets,
I would like to nominate the inclusion of Henry David Thoreau for an American Great Prophet.

 

[iOnlySignIn]

I have three things to say:

1. The only French Great Artists omission I cannot accept is that of Charles Perrault.
Tales of Mother Goose has had quite the profound impact on Western society, imo.

Ah. I shouldn't have forgotten that.

2. Taillevent is not a scientist per se, but I don't think laying the foundation of the
French gastronomic tradition is something to be taken lightly; plus it gives France at least one decent Medieval GS to generate.

I'll make him a Merchant.

3. No to Jean-Luc Picard. I am against the inclusion of fictional persons.

But France lacks post-Napoleonic Era Generals otherwise.

EDIT: Also, as it seems that philosophers are being included in the category of Great Prophets,
I would like to nominate the inclusion of Henry David Thoreau for an American Great Prophet.

No, his philosophy was not politically influential.

I've read him and I consider him complete garbage. I agree with most of his ideas actually - I just find his arguments for them the opposite of persuasive.

I mean, should we include him as an Artist? Maybe. As a Prophet? Definitely not. His writings could not have persuaded anyone who hadn't already agreed with him in the first place.

 

[iOnlySignIn]

Oh, and Frank Lloyd Wright. How could I forget? I'm a big fan.

Latest American artist list:

<UniqueName>Edgar Allan Poe</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Mark Twain</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Howard Pyle</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Ernest Hemingway</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Frank Lloyd Wright</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Elvis Presley</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Miles Davis</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Andy Warhol</UniqueName>
<UniqueName>Steven Spielberg</UniqueName>

Quite eclectic and comprehensive, don't you think?