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Foreign Policy: UniversCiv

Discussion in 'Team CivFanatics' started by talonschild, Jul 29, 2012.

  1. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    Few minor changes, mostly just language:
    1. Calling them "Ot4e's cavaries" makes it sound personal, like we are some wounded ex-girlfriend with personal vendetta, against Ot4e, instead of sound strategy against CP.

    2. Calling them "pretenders" is an insult. It is like saying they are unworthy to have WPC lands, like a child pretending to be a Princess of the castle. We should say "contender" which is a person with legitimate claim and chances to win the title by fighting for it.

    TBH I don't like this backstabbing talk with non-allies against our ally (or former ally depending on how you look at it). I think it makes us look unworthy as allies, like look how these snakes turn on their friends when they are through with their usefulness. I think we should just stay out of this. Who takes WPC wont decide the game.
     
  2. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    Ugh, just noticed that you already sent it... less than 2 hours after posting it :(... Oh well, we can remember for next time.
     
  3. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    Yes, sorry, it was short period, but I am in hurry, I wanted to send them something yesterday, but those are quite busy days.

    I had put Ot4e's name on purpose. I know he was molesting them to help against RB and he obviously went to extremes, because they had cut him with: "We dont like your tone, so we will stop talking with you", so I wanted to hit the live wound they still have about his ways.

    Good point about pretender and contender. I should had used a dictionary. In Bulgarian they have somewhat exchanged meanings and sounding. Lets hope they give it to my poor English (which is the case in fact)

    For me (and for Ot4e too I am sure) it is the latter.

    This is good point. They might not know how things developed. Maybe we can clarify this in following message or chat somehow? :(
     
  4. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    :) Like always, when one acts under pressure and in hurry, there are mistakes...

    We even have a saying: "Quick job - shame for the master" :D
     
  5. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    I think all went good after the mistakes in translation and dubious talks about ex-friends.

     
  6. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    We received the Great Spy :woohoo:

    Now we wait for the one from MZ and we let them play together and breed. Some 5-10 more GSpies will be of great use to us!
     
  7. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    Settling GSpies (Scotland Yard) doesn't increase the :gp: points towards a GSpy. It just increases the :espionage: generated by a city. If that is what we are doing we should settle them and make a Scotland Yard in the city that we have Courthouse and can build a Jail Security bureau etc... Usually it is best to make capital, GW city, or Forbidden Palace city the Scotland Yard/settled Spies site.

    Or we can save them for spybombing CivFr and stealing all their techs.
     
  8. dratboy

    dratboy Chieftain

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    I read 2metra's post and had the same :confused: reaction. maybe you're talking about starting a golden age with them and increasing GP production? On the other hand, I've never had 2 GS at the same time. Maybe they DO make babies!
     
  9. vranasm

    vranasm Deity

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    am I the only one who got it as a joke?....
     
  10. Calis

    Calis on time

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    No, me too. :)
     
  11. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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  12. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    Guys, you are awesome :goodjob:
     
  13. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    This is what I want to send to Uciv. Nothing specific, but we must start to speak.

     
  14. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    Be more specific about what we want and how we can help them
     
  15. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    Something like:

     
  16. YossarianLives

    YossarianLives Deity

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    I don't know, is there anyone else we can steal techs from? I feel like using their own Great Spy against them is not the best way to build a new alliance.
     
  17. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    It turns out they are not so strongly opposed to us stealing techs from them. Exactly the opposite. I met Zioun in the game and we had some chat. They want from us list of techs we want to steal. I named from the top of my head Liberalism, Rep. Parts, Rifling and Economics. I think those are about 1 GSpy and a bit more worth.

    He said that he must ask team, but most probably stealing from them wont be a problem, just we to write down our "demands" as he called them, but I think it was not burdened with bad feelings and just a word from non-native speaker.

    He said they might ask from us small favors, to which I said we will be looking favorably for doing things for friends if we can. He mentioned that they will launch a GA soon and they hope that they dont get a GS, and if they do get a GS, he asked that we exchange GPs if we have some. We just got a GM btw.


    Plus, we spoke about how CP are annoying a lot of people and Zioun told me their NAP is ending very soon.

    He said too that they appreciate very much the way we treated them and the talks ended with "See you soon my friend!" from him.

    Such is life, one door is closing and other is opening.
     
  18. talonschild

    talonschild Drive-By NESer

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    FWIW, "demander" is French for "to ask". Great to have them on board.
     
  19. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    Yeah, I had read it as something normal too. Thanks for clarifying this. And yes, it is good to have them friendly.
     
  20. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    Sent this to Uciv:

     

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