I also kind of like that idea. It makes it so that there is neither a lack of land to start on, or too mcuh land for much early game contact. It would allow the most amount of players to join the NES.
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I am considering this and have some unusual idseas about how to do it. There are some obstacles, though, at the concept level.
The Napoleonic era is one of my favorite times and I have the basic structure of such a game already done. At the nation level it couls only have a few players, but at the army commander level there could be a lot more players. I think the damnd for such would be pretty low.
I have also thought about a Mediterranean world game from 2000 or1000 BC and going forward, but it has taken a back seat to the global rules I'm working on.
That is true, but while more players is more fun for players, it is tough on moderating. I usually had about 25 sets of orders in BirdNES and just getting everything organized was very time consuming. For that number of players, it is important for orders to have some standardization. I cannot write a coherent update unless I can see all the action neatly laid out at the start. If I get more than 20 players, I will have to restrict the size of orders and enforce a rigid format.
Symphony D.
Deity
Technically it'd be RAM. CPUs can easily render arbitrarily large images, particularly ones with extremely limited color range; it's a question of how much can actually be stored in memory.Yes, the complete PureNES map makes CPU's stand still with awe. And then crash.
jeps
Arcadefire
You mean no more 6 pm orders from Perfist?
Exactly right!
Well, technically LINESII is on hiatus again, due to my new school.Ugh, screw random maps....I want to see BirdJaguar's skill with crafting the Earth...
Seriously, LINESII is still going on right now
Oh, and I think Bird would be one of the few able to pull of the era's unworkable by most mods (Cold War, WW2, Napoleon, Roman Empire, modern). Mr. Jaguar's got some untapped magic in him!
das
Regeneration In Process
But not too many. Though they should be diverse enough.
Hopefully it would be possible for somewhat more homogenic cultures to arise in all the craddles.
Well, what's wrong with that? Go ahead.
So, are you going to be working on the random map NES then?
For the rules one or two cradles or earth versus "random" does not make a difference, but obviously it does affect the map. I am will be working on that under the assumption that it will not be earth. I will probably use a Robinson projection though to
I like the idea of cultural similarity within a cradle. While three cradles would be nice, there may be a constraint that limits it to two. I hope get resolution on that very soon though.
Or one might be Inuit and the other Aboriginal Australian.
Symphony D.
Deity
Robinson amplifies it, you know.I will probably use a Robinson projection though to minimize the high laditude distortion.
alex994
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I like the idea of cultural similarity within a cradle. While three cradles would be nice, there may be a constraint that limits it to two. I hope get resolution on that very soon though.
Or one might be Inuit and the other Aboriginal Australian.
You are aware that despite whatever you may throw at me, I will turn them into something Asiatic right?
Thank you, I fixed it. But given that the map is ficticious anyway...Robinson amplifies it, you know.
I am curious why.
A fresh start "not on earth" certainly takes more player work. You have to come up with a "new" nation, new culture and a new religion. Some people take to that easily; for others it is difficult. I like the idea of allowing players to lift an OTL culture and drop it into a strange world surrounded by newly created cultures.
The purpose is a good game and players who do not like creating an all new nation shouldn't fell reluctant to play because of that. A bunch of wonky nations mixed with a few Aztecs, Russians or French might be nice.
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Arcadefire
Other was selected AMONGST other options, since you were talking about a seperate hist/alt-hist, which would also be very interesting
Of those history or alt hist history possibilities, what would interest you most?
Unfortunately, that doesn't sound even remotely realistic. Cultures are in many ways the result of intensive interaction with other cultures; without French, it would be difficult to have Germans. I mean, the main thing that I think that fresh starts have going for them is the novelty of being able to make your own nation, and that is just starting to wear thin for me.
That doesn't really matter, tho, seeing as most of the respondents to this poll have indicated that they'd rather like a fresh start type thing than any historical or althistorical game what I'd find more interesting. Majority rule and all that.
North King
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Ugh. No, no, no, no, ten thousand times no.
Do not, for the love of god, restrict cradles to "themes." Don't even suggest themes. "European," "Asiatic," "Mesoamerican," and every other culture is a result of its environment; without the environment, the culture would be different. Themed cradles screw over those of us who actually like to create our own civilizations. If people can't be mature enough to pick the cradle that their nation would be more similar to, then they quite frankly deserve to be booted; don't "theme" them.
das
Regeneration In Process
Seconded. When I was talking about homogenity, I meant that over time something like that should take shape; imposing it from the start would be simply ridicilous, though five or so updates in might be a somewhat different matter.
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