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Based on Real Clear Politics polling, giving Trump the 4 battleground states he leads by 4 or more points, he leads 283-226. This leaves Pa. and Wisconsin, where he leads by about a point and a half, on the table. Wining those would bump him up to 312.

Needed to win: 270
 

McConnell to step down as Senate GOP leader after 2024 election​

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) plans to step down as the head of Senate Republicans following the 2024 election.

Why it matters: His departure marks the end of an era for the Senate. McConnell became the top Senate Republican in 2006.
  • "This will be my last term as Republican leader of the Senate," McConnell said in a floor speech on Wednesday.
  • The 82-year-old cited his age as a factor: "One of life's most unappreciated talents is to know when it's time to move on to life's next chapter."
  • But McConnell also suggested he plans to serve out the remainder of his term, which lasts until 2027, stating he will "finish the job the people of Kentucky hired me to do as well, albeit from a different seat."
The backdrop: McConnell's announcement comes after a series of health scares last year that rattled his colleagues.
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What's next: Senate Republicans will meet after the election to pick a new leader, who will start in the role in January, McConnell said.

  • The three Johns — Senate Minority Whip John Thune (R-S.D.), Republican Caucus Chair John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) and Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) — are seen as the leading contenders to replace McConnell.
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https://www.axios.com/2024/02/28/mitch-mconnell-gop-senate-leader-retire
 
Oh, that reminds me of something I meant to say in reaction to one of your recent posts. Yes, Trump defeating the evil Hillary is a significant aspect of his appeal, combined with what that meant: three Supreme Court picks. If the right imagines Hillary naming those picks, the court is six-three liberal rather than six-three conservative. Cannot be overstated as an element of his hero status with them.

Good riddance to McConnell, but whatever John succeeds him will--I just feel sure of it--be yet worse.
 
Gori the Grey said:
Oh, that reminds me of something I meant to say in reaction to one of your recent posts. Yes, Trump defeating the evil Hillary is a significant aspect of his appeal, combined with what that meant: three Supreme Court picks. If the right imagines Hillary naming those picks, the court is six-three liberal rather than six-three conservative. Cannot be overstated.

Good riddance to McConnell, but whatever John succeeds him will undoubtedly be yet worse.
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Your point about the hypothetical alternative-history where Hillary won and got to pick the three Justices is missing an important nuance. The Senate was majority Republican after the 2016 election, so McConnell obviously would not have allowed a vote on a Hillary nominee.

We know this because his "its an election year, let the American people decide" excuse for blocking Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland was exposed as a farce when he rammed through Amy Coney Barrett's nomination during an election year. Not to mention the fact that McConnell invoked the "nuclear option", ie scrapping the filibuster for SCOTUS nominee votes, in order to ram through both Gorsuch and Kavanaugh's nominations.

McConnell had blatantly adopted a new, unwritten policy, that from then on, a) for a POTUS to successfully nominate a SCOTUS Justice, their party needed to have a majority in the Senate; and b) SCOTUS nominations could no longer be filibustered by the minority party. So Trump didn't save them from Hillary nominations, McConnell was going to do that anyway... However I'm sure they give Trump credit in spite of this.

Obama should have done a recess appointment for Garland when he had the chance... but he didn't, because he was experiencing the "Sorkinization", that @Lexicus described. One of the articles on the subject (I forget whether it was the Vanity Fair one or not), complained about this phenomenon with Democrats, which causes them to keep getting pwned by Republicans... they always think they're gonna win the next election, whereas Republicans are always considering that they might lose and preparing a backup plan.
 
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Right, but on top of their base operation, the developers can impose constraints. Although nudes are among the commonest forms in Western art, DALL-E won't paint you one. Developers maintain a second-order control over the output of the programs, once they discover that they do or do not provide a certain kind of output. That kind of thing would have to happen here. Oh, our programs can give correct but misleading answers to questions about voting. We (as a society) don't want that. So let's intentionally direct how the program responds to certain kinds of queries.
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The model cannot generate correct output with certainty. So the only option would be to teach it to refuse to answer to anything vaguely election related. I am not sure this is a good idea, especially since there will be people around who will train their models with deliberate misinformation about elections.
 
POLLSTERDATESAMPLEMOETRUMP (R)BIDEN (D)SPREAD
RCP Average2/13 - 2/27——47.145.1Trump+2.0
POLLSTERDATESAMPLEMOETRUMP (R)BIDEN (D)KENNEDY (I)SPREAD
RCP Average12/14 - 2/22——39.835.515.0Trump+4.3
POLLSTERDATESAMPLEMOETRUMP (R)BIDEN (D)KENNEDY (I)WEST (I)STEIN (G)SPREAD
RCP Average12/10 - 2/22——41.038.013.72.32.0Trump+3.0

This Day In History: February 28, 2020: Biden +5.4 | February 28, 2016: Clinton +2.8

Quinnipac polls are showing a Biden lead across all three combinations. Includes a 4-point lead heads up with Trump.
 
Is it time for you all to have a specific Trump/US presidency thread instead of dropping it in the global politics one. Polling minutiae doesn't seem in the spirit.
 
Arwon said:
Is it time for you all to have a specific Trump/US presidency thread instead of dropping it in the global politics one. Polling minutiae doesn't seem in the spirit.
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That's true. I've started a containment thread.
 
No, a US Presidential Election Containment thread. But Birdjaguar beat me to the punch.
 
Lexicus said:
Both sides? And all you've got is my posts?? Rush had his eponymous radio show before I was born dude



You mean like how the government has banned teachers in your state from talking about LGBTQ anything? Give us all a break; like any right-winger, your BS about "censorship" is just a rhetorical move to sidestep defending the substance of speech to which libs object. Like exactly what you did in this thread; Birdjaguar criticized the substance of Rush's speech and rather than even try to defend it you simply brought up censorship as a red herring. And you just continue the same pattern of deflection by mentioning my name.
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Ha! Don't flatter yourself lex, I only brought you up cuz everyone here knows how you are so literally literal. Both you and bird are actually two small specs in the +/- 50% of the american population that are literally stating trump is a monstrous existential threat.

Besides, aren't you an illiberal leftist? So that makes bird a "person ok with genocide unless it occurs in Europe". We can argue substance any time you wish...
 
bernie14 said:
Ha! Don't flatter yourself lex, I only brought you up cuz everyone here knows how you are so literally literal. Both you and bird are actually two small specs in the +/- 50% of the american population that are literally stating trump is a monstrous existential threat.
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Can I ask what you mean here? That half the american population are literally stating trump is a monstrous existential threat in the same way as Lex and Bird, or that half the american population are stating trump is a monstrous existential threat but only a few of them, such as Lex and Bird, mean it literally?
 
So nothing on censorship and banning speech. That was just shouted because it sounded ominous, but had zero substance to it.

They're gonna took away our freedoms!! :run:
 
Sommerswerd said:
Is it the Clown Car? Or some new Clown-Car-like Thread, that I'm going to have to ask to be merged again?
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It's an explicitly non-Clown Car thread.
 
@Sommerswerd i read a piece about Fani Willis
nymag.com

Fani Willis Has Problems (Upon Problems)

The Trump prosecution in Georgia is already in trouble — and things are about to get worse.
nymag.com nymag.com

And granted I don't know whether the author is conservative, but taking the points raised here at face value, this is a really kind of staggering level of incompetence from Willis. Otoh the same outlet (Ny mag Intelligencer) has a more recent piece titled "Team Trump's Case For Disqualifying Fani Willis is Collapsing" so ymmv).

I just find it somewhat hard to believe that the case could be fumbled to even to the extent it has been. Would welcome any takes you have on this
 
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