German state elections in March

[Leoreth]

Don't forget non-voters.

 

[dutchfire]

Yes, turnout was up 10% in MVP for example. Of course, not all of that is AfD, some of it is explicitly anti-AfD too.

 

[ori]

its not just or even mostly conservatives though - that is making things too easy:
linky.

So you have ~1/3 from people who did not vote in the previous election (potentially more conservative than not I concede), ~1/3 from conservative or outright nationalist parties and ~1/3 from the center-left to mildly leftist...

 

[Lohrenswald]

Our grand coalitions don't span from left to right, they span from center right to right of center right.

Well I think most people sort of think that's the only reasonable options, so when that's all one block things kinda go out the window

or am I wrong?

 

[Leoreth]

Well if we're using the median of all parties to calibrate our political spectrum, then GoodSarmatian is wrong, SPD is a center-left party. Same by European standards overall.

I agree they're doing a poor job at it, and feel more like a center-right party. The Union feels like a coalition of "we don't care let's be populist" and "tumbleweeds blowing behind a Merkel cardboard cutout".

 

[dutchfire]

Schleswig-Holstein today, results are here: http://www.tagesschau.de/inland/schleswig-holstein-wahl-103.html

CDU, Green and FDP did well, SPD disappointed. AfD pretty meh. Pirates are gone.

The graph "Wirtschaftlige Lage" in the previous link is interesting.

 

[metatron]

AfD pretty meh.

Almost 6%.
The Trump vote underperformed in poor-rural-white-bumblefrack-nowhere, Germany, by a mere 41%.

But Anglosphere liberals will be here any moment to womansplain to us how their very own bigotry is supposedly universal and how we are all racists, on account of not agreeing with their childish ideology.

 

[Ryika]

"The number of refugees should be cut down"
SPD voters agree: 51%

"Refugees are an asset for our country"
SPD voters agree: 78%

Mental gymnastics?

 

[FriendlyFire]

"The number of refugees should be cut down"
SPD voters agree: 51%

"Refugees are an asset for our country"
SPD voters agree: 78%

Mental gymnastics?

Refugees are an asset but we need to deport all the ones that do not integrate and we cannot take any more new refugees ?
This is to be expected after the high media coverage of rapes and terrorist attacks

 

[metatron]

The graph "Wirtschaftlige Lage" in the previous link is interesting.

Well, the perception is accurate, in that the FRG basically went through an enduring malaise roughly from '93 to '08, with '05 being one of the deep points.

Here's unemployment for example:

Spoiler :

 

[ori]

"The number of refugees should be cut down"
SPD voters agree: 51%

"Refugees are an asset for our country"
SPD voters agree: 78%

Mental gymnastics?

Not really as its very reasonable to understand the questions as one for the present (those already here are an asset) while the other looking into the future (the numbers admitted should be reduced). There is not much gymnastics required, none of the questions asked about deportation.