GR27 - AWE Archipelago vs 30 civs

[Greebley]

I would like to switch to Monarchy while the GLib is still active. Maybe we can do it right away??

Roster:
Greebley
Northern Pike
markh - Just Played
ThERat - Up
Commando Bob - On Deck

 

[Northern Pike]

Mark doesn't take credit for demolishing the Great Wall along with Madrid. That's a great step forward against the Spanish.

The long anarchy is a bad break given our lack of high-food tiles, though. The next player will need to manage our cities carefully to minimize population loss, using the trick of alternating turns of sufficient food and turns of restored order. We can't let all seven cities now set to starve (actually eight, but Ankara has enough accumulated food) fall to size four.

 

[ThERat]

bummer about the long anarchy and worse, with so many cities starving.

I will try my best to minimise this of course and go for alternate disorder, that means 6->5, 4-> 3, 2-> 1 will be for disorders and high food.

Hope we get out of this relatively unharmed.

Got it

 

[ThERat]

Pre-Turn
If we could get the wines online, the whole situation would be easier
we have 3 settlers but need to push them forward

MM for high food and revolts

IT enemy units invade our land, I guess there is no choice but to pull back our armies for the time being
8 cities go into disorder

1. 660AD
remove 4 enemy units in the very thin east to discover our main strike force in the west
we will have to shift some units over
pull back an army to autoraze Batsfjord to make way for our wine city eliminating 2 units in the process
in an attempt to ease pressure in the east, pull another army over to defeat mace
this allows us to bombard more units, redline 2 swords and kill one
[8-0]

need to let cities starve this turn, no choice

IT we repel a Viking archer landed on a mountain, the English all head home??? [9-0]
4 cities starve and there is nothing I can do

2. 670AD
defeat an English archer in the west, take out a settler pair there as well
in the center we slash 2 Viking units
in the east we eliminate 2 Viking horses, but there are Spanish maces and the like around
move our settler closer to the wine
our southern army takes out a mace and spots another iron source almost in the hands of Spain
[16-0]

IT Viking horses invade our land in bigger numbers, then I get the shock moment as Spanish
maces attack Yozgat defended by an army. Luckily we defend well and kill 3 of them [19-0]

3. 680AD
even though I sacrifice a river settlement, I get a settler right on top of the wine
take out 3 Viking horses and shift units around
move 2 swords next to Richmond [22-0]

IT English attack out of Richmond but lose their archer
Spanish continue to attack Yozgat but end up losing 2 units [25-0]
2 more towns starve

4. 690AD
found Winery, the happy situation should be a little better now
take out 7 units around our fronts including a settler pair
defeat 2 spears and raze Spanish Teruel for 24 gold and 4 slaves [34-0]

IT lose a sword defending against a horse [34-1]

5. 700AD
defeat 5 units in the east to clear space for more settlements
in the west, take out 3 English units after redlining them [42-1]

IT lose a spear at Mugla versus a sword [42-2]
finally we are monarchists

6. 710AD
set lux to 20%, we make 45gpt only, our infrastructure is pretty poor
our bombardments aren't that great and the English threaten the western towns in numbers
take out a mere mace, start to attack Gloucester taking out a spear [44-2]

IT this time our defenses do well and we defeat 2 swords [46-2]
Carthage seems to aim our hinterland with galleys

7. 720AD
I can't stand those Spanish maces/swords in the mountains
defeat 2 of them
take Cordoba after defeating 2 spears for 25 gold, Gloucester faces the same fate
both towns are next to each other [52-2]

IT very good news as I witness a Viking galley sink trying to defeat a Carthage galley
our units production is back to churning out some stuff

8. 730AD
found Sinop on the coast
around that area, defeat 4 units, in the west we bombard some English troops [56-2]

9. 740AD
found Van to close some gap in the east
take out 2 units in the east, in the west 2 English get defeated [60-2]

10. 750AD
defeat 2 spears and take out the last eastern coastal city there is, Almeria
take 3 Spanish units and move next to Birmingham
in the west, take out 2 English units [67-2]

The Vikings have not been seen for a while, guess they are busy fighting Carthage
we didn't get a single tech, this is quite astonishing

We also get the FP next turn which should help

 

[markh]

The tech pace is ridiculous, but as we come nearer to chivalry we should see where to get our horses for knights from. Up to now we only have Ragnar fighting us with horsemen.

 

[Greebley]

We can check if Carthage is far ahead in Tech. If so we could make Galleys and try to meet another civ.

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Northern Pike
markh
ThERat - Just Played
Commando Bob - Up

Week days have limited time for me, so Commando Bob, go ahead and play even if it takes you to the weekend to finish - it would probably take me that long.

 

[Northern Pike]

Good work getting through our anarchy and grabbing the wines.

The Carthaginians are behind us in tech, and the fact that they seem to be distracting the Vikings so much argues that they're on our own backward island.

If the civs we know already don't push us as far as Education, we could experience one of those rare GLib bonanzas, giving us most of the MA tech tree, when we meet more advanced overseas civs.

We should try to resume our advance on the Spanish core, since we know where it is, unlike the other enemy cores.

The next player shouldn't be reluctant to cash-rush settlers in all the southern towns now building them--Yozgat, Cankiri, and so on. We have plenty of gold and we need those settlers now, not when they'd naturally complete.

 

[CommandoBob]

Week days have limited time for me, so Commando Bob, go ahead and play even if it takes you to the weekend to finish - it would probably take me that long.

Downloaded the save.

I have turns due in Rod02, but I should be able to get something done by the weekend.

 

[CommandoBob]

Monarchy
80% Tax
00% Science
20% Luxury

3189 gold, +68 gpt

Feudalism in -- turn.

City Builds

1. Istanbul (7) vSword in 3, grows in 3.
2. Edrine (7) vSpear in 1, grows in 16.
3. Yozgat (2) settler in 21, grows in 1.
4. Bursa (6) Forbidden Palace in 1, grows in 8.
5. Iznik (6) vSword in 2, grows in 4.
6. Gloucester (3) worker in 7, zero growth, two resisters.
7. Uskudar (2) vSword in 6, grows in 3.
8. Izmit (7) vSword in 2, grows in 33.
9. Aydin (5) vSpear in 3, grows in 7.
10. Antalya (3) trebuchet in 5, grows in 1.
11. Konya (5) library in 2, grows in 18.
12. Urfa (3) settler in 16, grows in 9.
13. Bideer (4) vSpear in 3, grows in 3.
14. Kafa (5) vSword in 1, grows in 9.
15. Ankara (6) courthouse in 10, grows in 10.
16. Salonika (4) vSword in 2, zero growth.
17. Mugla (5) vSword in 1, grows in 16.
18. Denizli (3) vSword in 4, grows in 3.
19. Bolu (3) vSword in 7, grows in 10.
20. Cordoba (1) walls in 17, zero growth.
21. Bingol (3) trebuchet in 1, grows in 16.
22. Riza (3) settler in 6, grows in 5.
23. Zonguldak (3) trebuchet in 4, grows in 20.
24. Kirklareli (3) settler in 13, grows in 6.
25. Karabuk (3) trebuchet in 11, grows in 2.
26. Sinop (1) walls in 8, grows in 5.
27. Cankiri (3) settler in 9, grows in 9.
28. Iskenderun (3) trebuchet in 4, grows in 5.
29. Tunceli (3) courthouse in 14, grows in 6.
30. Almeria (1) walls in 20, grows in 10, one resister.
31. Sivas (3) trebuchet in 10, grows in 10.
32. Tokat (2) walls in 13, grows in 6.
33. Winery (1) walls in 16, grows in 2.
34. Van (1) walls in 19, grows in 6.

01 Settlers
15 Workers
13 Slaves
02 Warriors
12 Archer
26 Spear
44 Swords
18 Catapult
06 Armies
10 Trebuchets

Current Units: 134
Allowed Units: 074
Support Costs: 060 gpt

Compared to Carthage we are Average.
Compared to England we are Strong.
Compared to Spain we are Strong.
Compared to Scandinavia we are Strong.

01 Iron connected.
03 Wines connected.
03 Silks connected.

Plans
Try to advance on the Spanish core.
Rush some southern settlers to expand into Spain.
Forbidden Palace next turn.

Preflight
Rush settlers in Cankiri, Kirklareli, Riza and Urfa for a total of (36 + 52 + 44 + 64) 196 gold, which brings us down to 2993 in the bank.
[IBT]
No attacks.

Bursa Forbidden Palace -> market in 13.
Urfa settler -> settler in 30.
Kafa vSword -> vSword in 4.
Mugal vSword -> vSword in 5.
Bingol trebuchet -> trebuchet in 10.
Riza settler -> settler in 15.
Zonguldak trebuchet -> trebuchet in 8.
Kirklareli settler -> settler in 30.
Cankiri settler -> settler in 15.
Iskenderun trebuchet -> trebuchet in 8.

Resistance in Almeria ends.

1 0760 AD

Around the Empire
Four English Swords are SW of Mulga (hill), four more are 1S of Mulga (also hill); lone Spanish Archer is between Almeria and Gloucester, Spanish Mace on a mountain 1W of Yozgat, wounded Spainish Spear 1W of Tokat (forest).

Eight targets at Mulga, seven rock-throwers, four hits. Move five more cats/trebs into Mulga and hit four more times. Everyone around the city is pinged.
Move a 4th Sword into Mulga; it now has seven defenders.
Move Sword into Bolu.
Wounded eSword into Iskenderun.
Swords-2nd heals in Almeria.
Move two cataputs into Winery.
Spanish Mace threatens Yozgat, which has only one defender. Move Spear from Cankiri into Yozgat.

Swords-3rd has some difficulty with the two Spears in Birmingham, but prevails in the end (2 of 2).
We keep the town and start on Walls.
Swords-3rd is 6/18.

The capture of Birmingham, only size 1, puts a stack of four Spanish units inside our borders.

Wake Swords-1st and move towards Gloucester, to deal with the Spanish Archer.
Wake Swords-4th (in Van) to stomp on an English Archer (3 of 3).
Army in Winery is named Swords-6th and moves towards Birmingham, stifling a Spanish Spear on the way (4 of 4).
Swords-5th pounds a Pike (spain) and moves into Winery (5 of 5).
Move eSword into Mugla.
Move three trebuchets into Tokat.

Start/finish grass road NW of Iskenderun.
Start grass road E of Iskenderun.
Start grass road W of Antayla (2 turns).
Start mine W of Antayla (2 turns).
Start/finish grass road NW of Kirklareli.
Start/finish mine SE of Yozgat.
Two slaves mine the other Wine tile.
Start mine SW of Zonguldak.
Move settler into Sivas and stop. New settlers head roughly SW towards open ground.

3061 gold, +74 gpt.
​

[IBT]
Spain wants to beg. We push them aside.

Spanish Mace kicks the tar out of our eSword in Yozgat (5 of 6).
English Swords rotate in and out around Mulga.

Edrine vSpear -> vSpear in 4.
Iznik vSword -> vSword in 4.
Izmit vSword -> vSword in 4.
Konya library -> market in 15.
Salonika vSword -> vSword in 6.

Resistance in Birmingham ends.

Vikings are building Sun Tzu's Art of War (Feudalism).

2 0770 AD

Around the Empire
At Mulga, 1 Orange Sword is SW of the city and 3 Swords are 1S of the city (both on hills); 3 Orange Swords are near Bolu (1NW and 2SW, both on hills); a solo English Sword is ready to die in the forests SW of Iskenderun; the Sword killing Spanish Mace is back on his mountain perch 1W of Yozgat; two healthy Spanish Maces bother Birmingham, while a wounded Spanish Spear and Mace lurk inside our borders between Winery and Tokat.

Twelve rock-throwers in Mulga hit twice on four targets. Lone catapult in Bolu hits once. Both trebuchets in Iskenderun miss.

Swords-6th stomps the wounded Spear and mauls one of the Maces at Birmingham (7 of 8).
Swords-3rd, at 6/18, should be able to hold off one rMace.

Move catapult and trebuchet into Yozgat, they ping the killer Mace.
vSword kills that Mace (8 of 9).
eSword skewers a redlined Spanish Mace W of Tokat (9 of 10). Move Spear out of Tokat to protect the Sword from counterattack.
Swords-5th finishes off a yellowed Spanish Mace (10 of 11) and moves back into Winery.

Workers NW of Iskenderun move NW to road a forest to Bolu.
Begin mine NW of Kirklareli.
Four workers SE of Yozgat split into two groups, each one to road a BG.

3136 gold, +71 gpt.
​

[IBT]
Spainish Mace attacks Spear/Sword and not Birmingham, but dies to promote our Spear (11 of 12).
English Sword is turned back and buried at Mulga (12 of 13).

We learn Feudalism from Spain and the Vikings and start on Invention, due in -- turns.

3 0780 AD

Around the Empire
Four Orange Swords are 1S of Mulga, on a hill; 1 Orange Sword is SW of Bolu, on a hill; lone Orange Spear eyes undefended Cordoba; three Spanish Maces converge on Birmingham.

We yellow all the swords at Mulga; upgrade 4 catapults to trebuchets for 120 of 3208 gold.
Upgrade the catapult in Bolu also.

Swords-4th moves to Cordoba and pummels the Orange Spear (13 of 14).
eSword and 2 vSwords in Mulga mow down three Orange Swords, and we get one promotion to elite (16 of 17).
Swords-6th moves through Birmingham to strike down a Light Blue Mace on a hill (17 of 18).

eSpear and eSword move back into Tokat.

Move 3 slaves to road to Glouceseter (and from there to Almeria).
Four workers combine to start/finish a mine 1E of Iskendarun.
Two slaves move into the forest 2SW of Antayla to road.
Begin a forest road 1E of Bolu.
Mine completed 1S of Izmit, both workers move 1W to mine another hill. Make that worker and slave will be building the mine.

Konya market -> vMace in 5.
Fire the taxman in Cordoba so the city will grow.
Iznik vMace -> market in 12.
We are building Maces and Pikes instead of Swords and Spears.

3058 gold, +75 gpt.
​

[IBT]
Spanish Mace attacks Birmingham and dies, the remaining one bravely attacks the roads in his tile (18 of 19).
England shifts to the SE, clumping around Bolu and not Mulga.

Istanbul vMace -> vMace in 4.
Antalya trebuchet -> trebuchet in 8.

4 0790 AD

Around the Empire
Two English Swords 1S of Mulga, on that hill; 3 more Orange Swords 1W of Bolu; 3 Maces of Spain around Birmingham, all three on hills.
Just outside our borders around Bolu are about 14 English units, mostly Swords, in five different tiles.
Birmingham seems to be drawing the Spanish Maces like flies to honey.

The first six trebuchets in Mulga hit their targets, so the spare goes to Bolu, which has only one rock-thrower.
Upgrade five catapults in Mulga and one in Salonkia for 180 of 3133 gold.
Trebuchet in Bolu hits.

eArcher in Mulga is halfway victorious over redlined English Sword (19 of 20). It won, but did not promote.
Swords-4th moves through Cordoba towards Winery to whack a Spanish Spear on a hill (20 of 21).
Swords-6th rests in Birmingham this turn.
Swords-3rd, fully healed, disposes of two Maces on the hill 1W of Birmingham (22 of 23).

We begin to build a grass road to connect Gloucester.
Lone slave roads from Birmingham to Winery.
Move a settler into Winery, but it really needs an escort to move any further.
Four workers start/finish a BG mine 1NW of Sinop.
Mine completed 1NW of Kirklareli, 2 workers move 1N to mine again.
Four workers start/finish a mine 1NE of Iskenderun.
Two slaves help the worker/slave combo 1N of Mulga, finish the mine in 4.
Two workers move to the Silk forest 1N of Denizli, to road.
Two slaves begin to road the forest 2SW of Antayla.

2953 gold, +78 gpt.
​

[IBT]
Carthage drops off a Numidian Mercenary at Gloucester.

Aydin vPike -> vPike in 5.
Bideer vPike -> vPike in 5.
Denizli vMace -> vMace in 6.

5 0800 AD

Around the Empire
All of the English forces are outside our borders, headed southeast, towards Birmingham/Tokat/Winery; Spain sends 3 Maces to Birmingham; and the pest from Carthage at Gloucester.

Sword-1st makes mincemeat of the Merc from Carthage (23 of 24).
Swords-4th dislodges a Spanish Spear on a mountain near Van (24 of 25).
Sword-3rd delivers death to one Spanish Mace and then moves into Birmingham (25 of 26).

Two workers move to road the forest NW of Konya.
Four workers start/finish a BG mine 1S of Yozgat.
Begin the Silky forest road north of Denizli.
Four workers start/finish a grass mine 1NW of Iskenderun.
Move 3 slaves to start a road on our side of the mountains south of Winery.

3031 gold, +75 gpt.
​

[IBT]
Carthage sinks a Viking Galley.
Spanish Mace meets his maker at Birmingham (26 of 27).

Uskudar vMace -> vMace in 7.
Kafa vMace -> vMace in 5.


6 0810 AD

Around the Empire
Two English Swords at Tokat, both in forests; Birmingham draws 3 Spanish Mace and 1 Spear and 1 English Sword also.

Swords-3rd hacks a Mace at Birmingham (27 of 28). The other targets are only one per tile.

Not Constantinople is almost founded between Van and Winery, on a hill; Too Many Cities.
Gloucseter is connected. Three tiles between Gloucester and Almeria.

3106 gold, +79 gpt.
​

[IBT]
Spain runs away from Birmingham, England does not.
English Sword is impaled at Tokat (28 of 29).

Edrine vPike -> vPike in 4.
Gloucester worker (English) -> worker in 10.
Izmit vMace -> vMace in 5.
Mugla vMace -> vMace in 5.
Karabuk trebuchet -> trebuchet in 8.

7 0820 AD

Around the Empire
Hills around Mulga and Bolu are empty of the English, as England aims elsewhere. Four English units (Spear, Archer and 2 Swords) are around Birmingham, but I'm not sure if that city is their target or not. Spain's departure from around Birmingham is strange. I wonder if they and the Vikings are at war?

eSword finishes off wounded English Sword (29 of 30).
Sword-6th mops up two English Swords (31 of 32).

Moving trebuchets and Swords from Mulga/Bolu to Sivas/Tokat area.

New worker (England) in Gloucester heads towards Winery to join a single slave stack in that area.
Minor worker shuffling around, nothing drastic.

Still too many cities.

3186 gold, +75 gpt.
​

[IBT]
We lose an rWarrior to a Viking Archer in the north (31 of 33).

Carthage sinks another Viking boat.

We learn Republic, but I don't know from whom; it doesn't say. We stay in Monarchy.

Istanbul vMace -> vMace in 4.
Konya vMace -> vMace in 6.
Ankara courthouse -> market in 13.
Iskerndrun trebuchet -> trebuchet in 6.

8 0830 AD

Around the Empire
Around Birmingham are a Spear, Spear and Arhcer of England; at Sivas are two Orange Swords.

Trebuchets in Sivas go 3 for 3.
eSword vanquishes one English Sword (32 of 34).
Send vSpear to protect the eSword.
Swords-4th has no problem with a Spanish Archer (33 of 35).
Swords-3rd slaps an English Archer (34 of 36).

A Pike shows up in Winery, so Swords-5th heads towards Svolvaer (Viking) looking for a city to raze so that we can build.

Hire a taxman in Istanbul.

3262 gold, +80 gpt.
​

[IBT]
Carthage drops off two pests by Gloucester.

Yozgat settler -> settler in 30.
Bideer vPike -> vPike in 4.
Salonika vMace -> vMace in 7.
Zonguldak trebuchet -> trebuchet in 8.

9 0840 AD

Around the Empire
Two English Swords SW of Sivas; English Spear NE of Birmingham; the two pests from Carthage.

Trebuchets in Siva are 4 of 5.
Three eSwords make short work of the English blades but no MGL (37 of 39).
We get our first Mace victory by bashing in a healthy English Sword (38 of 40).
Swords-5th whacks two Spears in Svolvaer, but an Archer remains (40 of 42).
We redline an English Spear on a mountain and then Swords-4th makes it go away (41 of 43).
Swords-3rd jumps all over an English Spear outside Birmingham (42 of 44).
Sword-1st quickly neutralizes the Numidian Mercenary and Sword from Carthage (44 of 46).

We road to Almeria.
Road the hill 1NE of Mugla.
Road the hill 1SE of Izmit.
Too many cities.

3342 in gold, +75 gpt.
​

[IBT]
No attacks.

Aydin vPike -> vPike in 5.
Sivas trebuchet -> trebuchet in 10.

10 0850 AD

Around the Empire
One Spanish Mace is 1S of Winery.

Swords-5th brings down a Spear and an Archer as they raze Svolvaer (46 of 48).
Now we build Not Constantinople and start on Walls.
Our new city has 2 Spanish Maces inside it's borders.
Swords-4th corrects that problem (48 of 50).
Spanish Mace outside of Winery is eliminated but our vSword is exposed (49 of 51).
Send the pike from Not Constantinople to guard the Sword.

Two slaves meet 1N of Winery to road the grass and connect Birmingham.
​

[IBT]
The save is attached.

 

[CommandoBob]

Most of the action was in the south. We've got several settlers in that area but all the city slots are taken.

We are trying to connect Birmingham so that we can use those two Armies someplace else, like razing cities.

Pikes and Maces are now online and being produced.

Many offensive units in Tokat.

The Tokat-Sivas road corridor is a bit narrow. It is due south of most of our core, but it is easy to cut off. I think we need a fores city NW of Tokat to make this corridor wider and safer.

Swords-1st has not been moved and is not fortified.


05 Settlers
15 Workers
14 Slaves
01 Warriors
12 Archer
27 Spear
48 Swords
05 Pike
07 Catapult
06 Armies
09 Mace
29 Trebuchet

Current Units: 164
Allowed Units: 082
Support Costs: 082 gpt

Compared to Carthage we are now Strong, up from Average.
Compared to England we are still Strong.
Compared to Spain we are still Strong.
Compared to Scandinavia we are still Strong.

01 Iron connected.
03 Wines connected.
05 Silks connected.

 

[Northern Pike]

Well done dealing with the redirected enemy offensive.

Did you not see the discussion of why upgrading catapults to trebuchets is useless?

We've had two sword armies just sitting around guarding minor towns in the extreme south for more than ten turns now. I understand how the situation arose, and it's no one's fault, but it represents a bad waste of attacking power. Since we're at the city limit anyway, the next player should just settler-abandon Almeira, replacing it with a town squeezed in around Van if nothing more aggressive is possible, to free that army at least. Settler-abandoning Gloucester also comes into consideration.

On the whole, I'd say we've hit the global city limit at a fortunate time. Our empire is a reasonable size, and now none of our enemies can grow, except at one another's expense.

 

[Greebley]

Ok, I got it now.

 

[vmxa]

Lurker:
I love "too many cities".

 

[CommandoBob]

Did you not see the discussion of why upgrading catapults to trebuchets is useless?

Not until you mentioned it; sorry. I saw trebuchets hitting the Swords in the hills and the catapults missing them (mostly, it seemed).

We've had two sword armies just sitting around guarding minor towns in the extreme south for more than ten turns now. I understand how the situation arose, and it's no one's fault, but it represents a bad waste of attacking power. Since we're at the city limit anyway, the next player should just settler-abandon Almeira, replacing it with a town squeezed in around Van if nothing more aggressive is possible, to free that army at least. Settler-abandoning Gloucester also comes into consideration.

I didn't like keeping one Army in Almeria, since we did have a need for it other places. At the same time, we didn't have any extra units to send down there to free up the armies. We might have, if we hadn't learned Feudalism. We had a lull in units due to the higher cost, somewhat offset by the Forbidden Palace reducing corruption.

It didn't occur to me to settler-abandon either city, even after we hit the city limit.

On the whole, I'd say we've hit the global city limit at a fortunate time. Our empire is a reasonable size, and now none of our enemies can grow, except at one another's expense.

Which means we can abandon Almeria and Gloucester, build two cities elsewhere, and be assured that the AI cannot build where we have abandoned. But you already knew that.

 

[Northern Pike]

I didn't like keeping one Army in Almeria, since we did have a need for it other places. At the same time, we didn't have any extra units to send down there to free up the armies. We might have, if we hadn't learned Feudalism. We had a lull in units due to the higher cost, somewhat offset by the Forbidden Palace reducing corruption.

Sure, I know you were stuck with the situation. But now we can correct it.

 

[Greebley]

Preturn: I move the Army and spot a solitary Red unit. Its the Byzantines - probably tried to place a settler, but there isn't one now. They have monotheism that we don't have. Declare war.

I also start Invention at min. Might even need full research after meeting the Byz next turn.

Looks like I can get the Capitol to 15 shields for Pikes. Switch to Pike to to finish build next turn and have a needed MP for Capitol.

IBT: We get Monotheism from the GLib.

860 AD: We have a lot of unimproved hills near Capitol Will start working on that to bring more squares into play

Armies can move toward the front now without disbanding yet because if a unit is dropped off next to the unprotected towns to the South we can disband at that time.

We could use a few more Workers I think. Too much unimproved land - mostly hills.

Bombard but don't kill Spear. We still have no horses to attack and retreat with to get it.

Check for Libraries. They are cheap and we may want them soon.

870 AD: Push forward a little bit using Armies to defend.

880 AD: Leader fishing pays off as an Archer gets us a Leader. Fill it with MDI since we have no Horse for Knights.

Want a city to extend our wall South near Spain. Abandon Almeria so I can build another city, Forthright.

First Army next to Valladolid Other Armies are now on the front and will be able to advance soon.

890 AD: Kill two Pike and Valladolid is Captured.
English have a stack of 9 units next to Forthright. Kill 5 of 6 Sword in the Stack.
Armies find Barcellona, the current Capitol of Spain. Its size 9 on hills.

900 AD: Find Jaen as well in the Hills South of Valladolid. Kill first 2 Pike of Barcellona - have 3 Armies for the job Upgraded some Vet Sword.

IBT: Babylon completes Sun Tzu. Byzantine completes Knight Templar

910 AD: Capture Barcellona. Find Toledo (size 11).

IBT: Two pike are lost in Birmingham.

920 AD: Two Pike fall in Toledo. Capture Jaen with Iron near it. Spain no longer has Iron.
Spot Valencia and Santiago

IBT: Forgot to wake some Workers and they get capture. Fortunately we can get them back.
Spot a Horseman (Viking) near Toledo

930 AD: Toledo is Captured. Santiago and Valencia are attacked.

IBT: Horseman Pillages us. We get Chivalry

940 AD: Capture Santiago. Army near Valencia is Healing.

IBT: Units on a Mountain successfully defend. An MDI goes for an MDI on Hill with 2 hp (was one) and loses).

950 AD: Capture Valencia. Victoria Spotted. Armies get rather damaged attacking with more than one in the red. Should be safe though.

Notes:
I am hoping we can take out Spain Entirely. They are down to 6 Cities. We can stop starving the cities once we know we can take them out. We currently are above them in culture. We can see the borders of 3 of them
The Locations of the current Spanish cities seem reasonable. I would keep for the improvements, unless we see some place that is definitely superior.
Our unit costs are 90 gold now so I am not sure how many more we want. Our gpt is 110 so I have kept building more. However we may want temples and such - I haven't built those yet. Costs the same as an MP but also gives culture and higher culture means you can keep large cities for instant jumps in science.
Spain is definitely getting weaker, while England still has some oomph (more quiet recently). Didn't spot Viking units at all. Is Carthage on our continent? It might be if they are keeping the Vikings busy. With the number of units we have though there are really plenty.

 

[ThERat]

nice progress

We still have not spotted any horses? That's a pity because knights would be nice now. With unit costs mounting, it is better to have less but better units. At least we know that the Vikings have some.

Byz might not be on our continent and have simply dropped off a settler pair. Do they have the Great Lighthouse?

 

[Greebley]

Sea civs get +1 ship move, don't they? Agree on a settler pair that got dropped off around the time we hit max limit. I think the settler got disbanded.

 

[Northern Pike]

Now we're rolling.

I've got it.

 

[CivRulesAll]

lurker's comment:
You guys are doing great Crush those Scandinavians