Great Quotes δ' : Being laconic is being philosophical

The irony, based on what I've read, is Europe didn't actually start gaining a decisive technological advantage over the rest of the world until about the 1700s: the Inca had the equipment (not to mention terrain) to beat Spanish cavalry, but they never consolidated an adequate battle tactic; John Smith broke his pistol rather than admit it was inferior to Powhatan bows. The reason early Portuguese incursion into Africa was limited to coastal trading posts was they tried to take the land by force and were routed every time; it wasn't until the major players like Kongo and Songhai had broken and Europeans could play divide-and-conquer with the petty kingdoms that the Rape of Africa began in earnest—not-so-coincidentally, this is when the plantation economy really took off. There's an argument to be made that the New World colonies directly underwrote Europe's early-modern breakaway success, and they were only possible because the ravages of foreign disease effectively wiped out Native American resistance.


Disease really is what broke the Native Americans. In 1492 the Europeans had some technology which gave them an edge in some respects. But most of Europe was not richer than most of the Americas. As a proxy for prosperity, apparent health and nutrition. of a population is used. And as a proxy for apparent health, height. In 1492 the average Indian was, so far as could be determined, probably in better health, had better nutrition, was taller. Early European explorers remarked on this. But it went away real fast. And disease is the the answer as to why. Explorers and traders had been denied a place to settle in the Massachusetts bay area, and weren't strong enough force the issue. But just a decade later the Pilgrims showed up and settled unopposed, finding most of the local population dead.

As I've said elsewhere, the real difference in the prosperity of nations starts with the Industrial Revolution. Something which the cause of is still debated. That is the real divergence point, not the Age of Exploration.
 
The irony, based on what I've read, is Europe didn't actually start gaining a decisive technological advantage over the rest of the world until about the 1700s: the Inca had the equipment (not to mention terrain) to beat Spanish cavalry, but they never consolidated an adequate battle tactic; John Smith broke his pistol rather than admit it was inferior to Powhatan bows. The reason early Portuguese incursion into Africa was limited to coastal trading posts was they tried to take the land by force and were routed every time; it wasn't until the major players like Kongo and Songhai had broken and Europeans could play divide-and-conquer with the petty kingdoms that the Rape of Africa began in earnest—not-so-coincidentally, this is when the plantation economy really took off. There's an argument to be made that the New World colonies directly underwrote Europe's early-modern breakaway success, and they were only possible because the ravages of foreign disease effectively wiped out Native American resistance.
That seems rather suspect. By the time the conquistadors arrived in the New World, Europeans had already demonstrated competency with steel, gunpowder, shipbuilding, and engineering that was at least equal to what was found in the Middle East, India, and China - if not superior. The Europeans were conquering Tenochtitlan with steel weapons and effective gunpowder - the Aztecs were using stone or copper weapons with cloth armor. I don't want to disparage Mesoamerican architecture, but compared with the understanding of mathematics and engineering needed to build Gothic cathedrals, it was not that impressive. Mesoamerican civilizations were very good with the level they were working at, but were vastly inferior to European technology.
As far as Africa goes, there were strong polities in Africa that hindered European expansion, but disease was a massive killer that Europeans never really got a handle on until comparatively recently. I don't remember the numbers off the top of my head, but @innonimatu has made some good posts on Portuguese colonies in Angola and how devastating disease was to them.
 
The irony, based on what I've read, is Europe didn't actually start gaining a decisive technological advantage over the rest of the world until about the 1700s: the Inca had the equipment (not to mention terrain) to beat Spanish cavalry

Cavalry wasn't even relevant to the spanish conquests in America. The conquistadores are represented with horses in civ but horses were a luxury for commanders. The americans had the numbers to slow the europenas had they joined together. But they were very divided, hence the numbers were never there even before the diseases ravaged their communities. Or long after the europeans introduced diseases and their effects had long gone over the natives, as with the central and western US. The Aztec and the Inca fell that way, dividied: the spanish found local help. The thing to notice is that it wasn't just the military technology of europeans at the time that was superior, their "social technology" was also superior in this fight: Spain managed to easily rule much of America across an ocean for three centuries, no noteworthy rebellions during all that time. The american natives couldn't keep a coalition (or an empire) together long enough to beat the europeans, even where they had had the numbers. And the europeans were kind of like the romans in the ancient Mediterranean: if you defeated one of their expeditions they'd just send another, and another... I really can't think of an alternative history where the whole american continent doesn't get colonized, only alternatives (suppose no diseases) where it took longer to happen.

The reason early Portuguese incursion into Africa was limited to coastal trading posts was they tried to take the land by force and were routed every time; it wasn't until the major players like Kongo and Songhai had broken and Europeans could play divide-and-conquer with the petty kingdoms that the Rape of Africa began in earnest—not-so-coincidentally, this is when the plantation economy really took off.

It may be that Kongo only lasted as long as it did due to portuguese help, rather than the other way around, that the portuguese hastened its collapse. Arguments could be made either way. But its besides your point. Kongo had one city, everything else was impermanent. It couldn't just be conquered because there was nothing to conquer. Unlike the american advanced civilizations, of which there were several that were easily conquered and incorporated into colonial administrations, the africans in austral Africa generally were nomadic. I don't know why this key point tens to be omitted or unappreciated in most books about the region. It was an adequate way of life for conditions in the region, not some kind of evidence of underdevelopment. It didn't prevent rudimentary but important industries in metalworking and textiles, it didn't prevent social organizations that we can call "kingdoms" (with the qualification that they were very much "feudal"). And it meant that they were quite hard to either conquer or destroy unless massive manpower was used to take over the land. Europe didn't have that manpower, then or even during the 19th century, the "Rape of Africa". Africa the continent is huge, larger than north or south America. It wasn't the natives that stopped european incrustations: it was the land itself. Diseases, distance (fewer good rivers), lack of existing infrastructure (no established empires to conquer). The only way to exploit Africa's resources was to trade with the africans who were already there.

It is worth thinking why, given that Africa was the source of slaves to the Americas, plantations were not developed in Africa, rather than move all those people, with costs and losses on the way, to another continent. it's also worth wondering why these slaves had to be bought from the african polities rather than just taken. One answer is that expeditions to take slaves either returned empty-handed (the locals simply moved away, and the invaders couldn't find them) or didn't return at all decimated by diseases and hunger. It wasn't the strength of african polities that stopped the europeas efforts at conquest, rather the opposite, it was their "weakness": their ability to evade the invaders, forcing them to come to terms in order to get anything useful at all from Africa. Edit: The other other, the relative harshness of the land compared to the americas and difficulty in policing "borders", essential to exercise power.

The slave trade and later the ivory trade slowly had an effect of enabling the creation of stronger polities, more centralized ones. Firearms had to be sold to the africans in order to increase the harvest of ivory, and inevitably were used in local wars also. As it happened with Japan, they made it easier for political consolidation to happen. I don't think anyone can say for certain but my guess is that when western Europe finally turned its attention to dividing Africa generally there were larger, more organized polities there than in the 16th century. In one of history's great cynical ploys, one of the things done shortly after the division of Africa in Berlin was a convention in Brussels (1890) to ban the sale of firearms and ammunition to africans for "humanitarian" reasons - ending the slave trade - just in time to leave them defenseless as the new colonial administrations started to take over the allotted territories.

Here you have some quotes from the treaty.

Article I
The powers declare that the most effective means of counteracting the slave trade in the interior of Africa are the following:
1. Progressive organization of the administrative, judicial, religious, and military services in the African territories placed under the sovereignty or protectorate of civilized nations.
2. The gradual establishment in the interior, by the powers to which the territories are subject, of strongly occupied stations, in such a way as to make their protective or repressive action effectively felt in the territories devastated by slavehunting.
[...]
7.Restriction of the importation of firearms, at least of those of modern pattern, and of ammunition throughout the entire extent of the territory in which the slave-trade is carried on.
[...]

Article VIII
[...]the importation of firearms, and especially of rifles and improved weapons, as well as of powder, ball and cartridges, is, except in the cases and under the conditions provided for in the following Article, prohibited in the territories comprised between the 20th parallel of North latitude and the 22d parallel of South latitude, and extending westward to the Atlantic Ocean and eastward to the Indian Ocean and its dependencies, including the islands adjacent to the coast within 100 nautical miles from the shore.

Note he the emphasis on modern weapons. The slave trade, of course, had been going on for centuries, before those weapons even existed. But it sure as hell would be inconvenient for the colonial powers to have to fight natives armed with modern weapons... which they just had to occupy, to end slavery your see. As you can see, the Rape of Africa, the effective occupation of its territory, was a humanitarian intervention. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose...
 
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it struck me seriously to read that Aztecs had maybe a million people , to be conquered by a tiny minority bunch of Spaniards , except they had already found a quarter or half a million allies , like just on the day they got off the boat . This for reality , for the idiotic r16 part , the lncans especially should have feared what lied across one of the oceans , getting so much wrong ideas from , like what should ı say , Zheng He !
 
"In the whole vast dome of living nature there reigns an open violence. A kind of prescriptive fury which arms all the creatures to their common doom: as soon as you leave the inanimate kingdom you find the decree of violent death inscribed on the very frontiers of life. You feel it already in the vegetable kingdom: from the great catalpa to the humblest herb, how many plants die and how many are killed; but, from the moment you enter the animal kingdom, this law is suddenly in the most dreadful evidence. A Power, a violence, at once hidden and palpable... has in each species appointed a certain number of animals to devour the others. And who exterminates him who will exterminate all others? Himself. It is man who is charged with the slaughter of man. The whole earth, perpetually steeped in blood, is nothing but a vast altar upon which all that is living must be sacrificed without end, without measure, without pause, until the consummation of things, until evil is extinct, until the death of death."

- Joseph de Maistre
 
The Creator, if He exists, has an inordinate fondness for beetles.
J.B.S. Haldane (sort of).
 
"Absolutely nothing that has happened has been a surprise. We saw [COVID-19] coming. Not only did we see it, we ran the models and the gaming exercises. We had every bit of the structure in place. We’ve been talking about a biohazard risk like this for years. Anyone who says we did not see this coming has their head in the sand, or is lying through their teeth."
— James Giordano, quoted in "The 3 Weeks That Changed Everything"


Apropos of comments in a certain thread, no, Capitalism, you are the planned economy:

"I am familiar with capitalist production as a social form, or an economic phase; capitalist private production being a phenomenon which in one form or another is encountered in that phase. What is capitalist private production? Production by separate entrepreneurs, which is increasingly becoming an exception. Capitalist production by joint-stock companies is no longer private production but production on behalf of many associated people. And when we pass on from joint-stock companies to trusts, which dominate and monopolise whole branches of industry, this puts an end not only to private production but also to planlessness."
— Friedrich Engels, "A Critique of the Draft Social-Democratic Program of 1891"
 
Apropos of comments in a certain thread, no, Capitalism, you are the planned economy:

"I am familiar with capitalist production as a social form, or an economic phase; capitalist private production being a phenomenon which in one form or another is encountered in that phase. What is capitalist private production? Production by separate entrepreneurs, which is increasingly becoming an exception. Capitalist production by joint-stock companies is no longer private production but production on behalf of many associated people. And when we pass on from joint-stock companies to trusts, which dominate and monopolise whole branches of industry, this puts an end not only to private production but also to planlessness."
— Friedrich Engels, "A Critique of the Draft Social-Democratic Program of 1891"
The end result of unchecked capitalism is cartelisation.
 
If the soul is left in darkness, sins will be committed. The guilty one is not he who commits the sin, but the one who causes the darkness.
—Victor Hugo, Les Misérables (epigraph of To Much and Never Enough)
 
Reading the Wikipedia on Ernest Bevin:

Bevin reluctantly allowed himself to be moved to become Lord Privy Seal in March 1951.

"I am neither a Lord, nor a Privy, nor a Seal".
Attlee’s government had some good one-liners! :lol:
 
"A boy can be two, three, four potential people, but a man is only one. He murders the others."
-Uncle Benjy, p. 280, The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz (1989 New Canadian Library Edition)
 
With the end of the Special Counsel’s Office, the one real check on Trump’s unfettered power was gone, until the next election. Now it’s upon us, and the president remains free to repeat what worked for him in the last one.​

— George Packer, "The Inside Story of the Mueller Probe’s Mistakes"


The political system may no longer be strong enough to preserve its integrity. It’s a mistake to take for granted that election boards and state legislatures and Congress are capable of drawing lines that ensure a legitimate vote and an orderly transfer of power. We may have to find a way to draw those lines ourselves.

There are reforms to consider some other day, when an election is not upon us. Small ones, like clearing up the murky parts of the Electoral Count Act. Big ones, like doing away with the Electoral College. Obvious ones, like appropriating money to help cash-starved election authorities upgrade their operations in order to speed up and secure the count on Election Day.

Right now, the best we can do is an ad hoc defense of democracy. Begin by rejecting the temptation to think that this election will carry on as elections usually do. Something far out of the norm is likely to happen. Probably more than one thing. Expecting other–wise will dull our reflexes. It will lull us into spurious hope that Trump is tractable to forces that constrain normal incumbents.

If you are a voter, think about voting in person after all. More than half a million postal votes were rejected in this year’s primaries, even without Trump trying to suppress them. If you are at relatively low risk for COVID-19, volunteer to work at the polls. If you know people who are open to reason, spread word that it is normal for the results to keep changing after Election Night. If you manage news coverage, anticipate extra–constitutional measures, and position reporters and crews to respond to them. If you are an election administrator, plan for contingencies you never had to imagine before. If you are a mayor, consider how to deploy your police to ward off interlopers with bad intent. If you are a law-enforcement officer, protect the freedom to vote. If you are a legislator, choose not to participate in chicanery. If you are a judge on the bench in a battleground state, refresh your acquaintance with election case law. If you have a place in the military chain of command, remember your duty to turn aside unlawful orders. If you are a civil servant, know that your country needs you more than ever to do the right thing when you’re asked to do otherwise.

Take agency. An election cannot be stolen unless the American people, at some level, acquiesce. One thing Brooks has been thinking about since her exercise came to an end is the power of peaceful protest on a grand scale. “We had players on both sides attempting to mobilize their supporters to turn out in large numbers, and we didn’t really have a good mechanism for deciding, did that make a difference? What kind of difference did that make?” she said. “It left some with some big questions about what if you had Orange Revolution–style mass protest sustained over weeks. What effects would that have?”​

— Barton Gellman, "The Election That Could Break America"


[Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-un, and Saddam Hussein] are his role models. And these people—what you have to understand is: once they're in power, they don't go away. You don't get a chance to vote them out in four years. Their rule ends when the country ends. So to all the people out there considering voting for Trump, I hope you enjoy your vote. Because on days like this you realize: this could be the very last vote you will ever get.​

Trevor Noah, July 2016 (abridged secondhand)
 
America is the wealthiest nation on Earth, but its people are mainly poor, and poor Americans are urged to hate themselves. To quote the American humorist Kin Hubbard, 'It ain’t no disgrace to be poor, but it might as well be.' It is in fact a crime for an American to be poor, even though America is a nation of poor. Every other nation has folk traditions of men who were poor but extremely wise and virtuous, and therefore more estimable than anyone with power and gold. No such tales are told by the American poor. They mock themselves and glorify their betters. The meanest eating or drinking establishment, owned by a man who is himself poor, is very likely to have a sign on its wall asking this cruel question: 'if you’re so smart, why ain’t you rich?' There will also be an American flag no larger than a child’s hand – glued to a lollipop stick and flying from the cash register.

Americans, like human beings everywhere, believe many things that are obviously untrue. Their most destructive untruth is that it is very easy for any American to make money. They will not acknowledge how in fact hard money is to come by, and, therefore, those who have no money blame and blame and blame themselves. This inward blame has been a treasure for the rich and powerful, who have had to do less for their poor, publicly and privately, than any other ruling class since, say Napoleonic times. Many novelties have come from America. The most startling of these, a thing without precedent, is a mass of undignified poor. They do not love one another because they do not love themselves.”

― Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse-Five
 
As Confucius once said, "in a well-run country, it is shameful to be poor. In a badly-run country, it is shameful to be rich."
 
[8-13] 子曰。篤信好學、守死善道。危邦不人、亂邦不居、天下有道則見、無道則隱。邦有道、貧且賤焉、恥也、邦無道、富且貴焉、恥也。

[8:13] The Master said: “Be of unwavering good faith and love learning. Be steadfast unto death in pursuit of the good Way. Do not enter a state which is in peril, nor reside in one which people have rebelled. When the Way prevails in the world, show yourself. When it does not, then hide. When the Way prevails in your own state, to be poor and obscure is a disgrace. But when the Way does not prevail in your own state, to be rich and honored is a disgrace.”

probably a better translation, since this one doesn't like "hide" that he's talking about the way
 
As far as Africa goes, there were strong polities in Africa that hindered European expansion, but disease was a massive killer that Europeans never really got a handle on until comparatively recently. I don't remember the numbers off the top of my head, but @innonimatu has made some good posts on Portuguese colonies in Angola and how devastating disease was to them.

Yeah, the Europeans couldn't penetrate inland much in Africa until they had some effective malaria treaments. Of course, even with Europeans largely confined to their coastal entrepots the slave trade wrought massive transformations in Africa.
 
It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender repression begin to dissolve before our eyes and yet we see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia

Paul Mason
 
It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender repression begin to dissolve before our eyes and yet we see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia

Paul Mason

Blame shamans for gender-repression. I envy this guy for being able to see that back into the past.
 
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