hg3: Plain Ol' Diety
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King Alexander
Universe explorer
Hey, I'm glad I'm back again, also! We'll go as homeyg said(roster above).
. I couldn't find time to play it. You should have just let Kaiser play when he checked back in.It's okay, I was just wondering if you were still there. Does this mean we are skipping you or are you still going to play the turns?
Edit: Okay, I saw Kiech's post. That will be the new roster. I will play my turns tomorrow. Sorry, Yom, for the confusion.
Edit: Okay, I saw Kiech's post. That will be the new roster. I will play my turns tomorrow. Sorry, Yom, for the confusion.
Turn 1: Move settlers towards locations specified by Kiech. Re-position blockade.
IBT: St. Petersburg: settler > barracks. Carthagineans start the Great Library.
Turn 2: Move settler towards the floodplains to the nw. Raise luxury slider to 40%.
IBT: Germans start the Great Library.
Turn 3: I buy Polytheism from Carthage for 300 gold and our world map.Trade Egypt 235 gold and Polytheism for Construction. Found Riga (horses). Riga begins building a worker.
IBT: Kiev: settler > barracks, Vlad: worker > worker.
Turn 4: Found Rostov near 2 gems. Begins building warrior. Kiev settler heads west.
IBT: Korea offers me his territory map for mine + philosophy. I reject (of course). Smol: worker > spearman, Sevastopol: worker > spearman. English begin GL. Romans begin GL. Egyptians begin GL. Greeks begin GL. Iroqouis begin GL.
Turn 5: Trade France 22 gpt and 51 gold for Currency. Our free tech is Feudalism. I might be able to make some trades with it. Trade Greece Feud for 35 gpt, 87 gold, and Engineering. Trade Germany Feud for 31 gpt, 38 gold and both maps. Nothing esle except for some worker movements. I lower luxury slider. Our total extra gpt is 76.
IBT: Germans and Greeks both start Sun Tzu's.
Turn 6: Just some worker movements. Checked with the military advisor and we are weak compared to the Germans. That ain't good.
IBT: Kiev riots (homeyg hit's himself over the head with a brick). Minsk: settler > pikeman. Germans start the HG. French start the HG.
Turn 7: I raise the luxury slider. Send Minsk settler to the west. Greek city interfere's with
one of Kiech's city locations. I'll have to move settler somewhere close by. Found Astrakhan next to the western fp, begins worker.
IBT: Moscow: temple > pikeman, Novgorod: worker > spearman, Rostov: warrior > spearman.
Turn 8: Found Kharkov to the west of Tblisi. Found Grozny, begins worker. Nothing much else.
IBT: Sverd: worker> spearman.
Turn 9: Trade France 26 gpt, 429 gold and world map for Monarchy. I don't want to start a revolution yet until I (or the next person) gets the gems hooked up.
IBT: Kras: worker > speaman.
Turn 10: Just some worker movements.
Notes: The two workers west of Odessa are going to connect us to Germany. That's about it. Good luck to the next person.
IBT: St. Petersburg: settler > barracks. Carthagineans start the Great Library.
Turn 2: Move settler towards the floodplains to the nw. Raise luxury slider to 40%.
IBT: Germans start the Great Library.
Turn 3: I buy Polytheism from Carthage for 300 gold and our world map.Trade Egypt 235 gold and Polytheism for Construction. Found Riga (horses). Riga begins building a worker.
IBT: Kiev: settler > barracks, Vlad: worker > worker.
Turn 4: Found Rostov near 2 gems. Begins building warrior. Kiev settler heads west.
IBT: Korea offers me his territory map for mine + philosophy. I reject (of course). Smol: worker > spearman, Sevastopol: worker > spearman. English begin GL. Romans begin GL. Egyptians begin GL. Greeks begin GL. Iroqouis begin GL.
Turn 5: Trade France 22 gpt and 51 gold for Currency. Our free tech is Feudalism. I might be able to make some trades with it. Trade Greece Feud for 35 gpt, 87 gold, and Engineering. Trade Germany Feud for 31 gpt, 38 gold and both maps. Nothing esle except for some worker movements. I lower luxury slider. Our total extra gpt is 76.
IBT: Germans and Greeks both start Sun Tzu's.
Turn 6: Just some worker movements. Checked with the military advisor and we are weak compared to the Germans. That ain't good.
IBT: Kiev riots (homeyg hit's himself over the head with a brick). Minsk: settler > pikeman. Germans start the HG. French start the HG.
Turn 7: I raise the luxury slider. Send Minsk settler to the west. Greek city interfere's with
one of Kiech's city locations. I'll have to move settler somewhere close by. Found Astrakhan next to the western fp, begins worker.
IBT: Moscow: temple > pikeman, Novgorod: worker > spearman, Rostov: warrior > spearman.
Turn 8: Found Kharkov to the west of Tblisi. Found Grozny, begins worker. Nothing much else.
IBT: Sverd: worker> spearman.
Turn 9: Trade France 26 gpt, 429 gold and world map for Monarchy. I don't want to start a revolution yet until I (or the next person) gets the gems hooked up.
IBT: Kras: worker > speaman.
Turn 10: Just some worker movements.
Notes: The two workers west of Odessa are going to connect us to Germany. That's about it. Good luck to the next person.
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
Looks like some good trading. Glad to see we're now medieval. I'm not sure about everyone else, but I usually go for Republic instead of Monarchy, unless it's a game in which I'm going to be warring constantly/have no other choice. What do you all think?
King Alexander
Universe explorer
Yes, I'd like to know what tech I'm going to choose! Republic or Monarchy?
If I can't play today, I'll play tomorrow.
EDIT: Good turns, homeyg.
Any suggestions/ideas?
If I can't play today, I'll play tomorrow.
EDIT: Good turns, homeyg.
Any suggestions/ideas?
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
I'd say try and swing some kind of deal for The Republic. I haven't looked at the save, but I'd imagine someone out there would be willing to trade it to us...for a price.
King Alexander
Universe explorer
>>SAVE <<
IBT
England starts Sun Tsus.
530BC (1)
Kiev riots..argh!!!
510BC (2)
New Kongsbergs borders expand, Bismark asks to remove our troops.
490BC (3)
A settler/spearman pair comes north of Smolensk: theyll probably go to settle there and we cant do anything , Im going to try to stop them, if I can. A pike/settler is going is on their way to settle north of New Munich.
470BC (4)
A Greek galley approaches south of Kharkov . I revolt.
450BC (5)
Nothing. A trade Engineering to Egypt for WM + 208g(all they had): better to take their money before someone else does. Most civs know Monotheism.
IBT
Germany starts Leos.
430BC (6)
We find Dnepropetrovsk(what a name) north of Kharkov. Germans and Greeks know Invention: they dont trade for Monotheism or Invention.
410BC (7)
Nothing.
IBT
England starts Hanging Gardens.
390BC (8)
We find Maikop east of Rostov(I had to cover the space).
IBT
Korea starts the GL.
370BC (9)
No one is willing to trade. Still in anarchy.
IBT
Greece starts Leos.
350BC (10)
Nothing.
Summary
I didnt made much improvement, as it seems. Were still in anarchy and no one is willing to trade.
Next better player.
IBT
England starts Sun Tsus.
530BC (1)
Kiev riots..argh!!!
510BC (2)
New Kongsbergs borders expand, Bismark asks to remove our troops.
490BC (3)
A settler/spearman pair comes north of Smolensk: theyll probably go to settle there and we cant do anything , Im going to try to stop them, if I can. A pike/settler is going is on their way to settle north of New Munich.
470BC (4)
A Greek galley approaches south of Kharkov . I revolt.
450BC (5)
Nothing. A trade Engineering to Egypt for WM + 208g(all they had): better to take their money before someone else does. Most civs know Monotheism.
IBT
Germany starts Leos.
430BC (6)
We find Dnepropetrovsk(what a name) north of Kharkov. Germans and Greeks know Invention: they dont trade for Monotheism or Invention.
410BC (7)
Nothing.
IBT
England starts Hanging Gardens.
390BC (8)
We find Maikop east of Rostov(I had to cover the space).
IBT
Korea starts the GL.
370BC (9)
No one is willing to trade. Still in anarchy.
IBT
Greece starts Leos.
350BC (10)
Nothing.
Summary
I didnt made much improvement, as it seems. Were still in anarchy and no one is willing to trade.
Next better player.
King Alexander
Universe explorer
I forgot to write.. The advisor said 7 turns(I revolted at the end of turn 4).
Gogf
Indescribable
homeyg said:Gogf, you wouldn't be interested in filling King Alexander's space, would you?
Oh, damn, didn't see this until now. I probably would have been. As it is, I'm going away for four weeks in less than an hour. Bye everyone!
Turn 0 - A quick overview over the map shows that we did well in the land grab, but the rest of the world did equally well. We also have no embassies. The other continent seems to have executed a few wars with Pisae being Egyptian and a lot of ruins.
I fire some unneeded entertainers and make some entertainers taxmen.
I really don't think we should be revolting into a monarchy. We're not planning on warring very much, so republic is the way to go.
The best deal is with Cleo. Feudalism, WM and 208 gold gets us republic.
We are now down Monotheism and Invention.
Our anarchy ends next turn.
Turn 1 - We are now a Republic and The Germans begin sistine, so they got Theology this turn.
I MM our cities and we make 61 gpt at 30% luxes and 0% science.
Moscow switched to a settler. I'm going to try to fill in as much land as possible and then we should build marketplaces then libraries in our core cities.
I also notice we have no FP!
Sevastapol seems to be the best place as it'll make our northern cities productive.
I swap it to a courthouse for now.
F3 shows we have 19 workers, which is way too few for an empire of our size. We should have at least 40 by now.
Kiev can make 1 worker a turn with a courthouse, so I swap it to that now.
I also notice our workers aren't optimized. Please pay attention to worker moves, using them in optimal stacks can save a lot of time.
No two-fers available, so I hold off on trading.
Turn 2 - Minsk:Worker->Settler
Kharkov & Grozny riots (??? I just set them to not riot by working high trade tiles, too!)
French have Theology too, as they begin work on Sistine Chapel.
Still no deals
Turn 3 - St. Petersburg:Settler->Settler
Engineering for Monotheism from Carthage (exactly equal to each other, surprisingly).
The English don't have Theology but have invention, so we could get a twofer, but I'm confident there'll be a better deal soon (Theology is expensive).
Turn 4 - Moscow:Settler->Settler
Rostov
ikeman (why build a regular?)->Barracks
Astrakhan:worker->Library (for expansion and to let it grow)
The French Complete the Hanging Gardens
The Greeks complete the Great Library.
Hmm...The English Have Theology now. Oh well.
Greece has Invention but not Theology (which it WILL get next turn thanks to TGL).
I guess I have to take the deal now (expensive though)
WM, 34 gpt, and 619 gold gets us Theology
Theology, 15 gpt and WM gets us Invention and 5 gold
Sh*t! They were paying us 35 gpt which ends this turn! Not good...
France and Germany have Gunpowder
I lower luxes to 20% (which was just for Kiev) and MM some
We are now gaining 28 gpt (which is still too few) with just 14 gold. Luckily, we stop paying 22 gpt to the French next turn....but also lose 31 gpt from the Germans, so the situation is even worse
.
Map trading gets us up to 25 gold. I'm going to have to drop the lux rate and run entertainers if I can't find a way to get gold.
A road connecting us to Germany/France/England/Korea will complete in 2 turns, which will hopefully let us sell our excess luxuries for money.
Turn 5 - Now at 54 gold and -14 gpt. Map trades gets us up to 62 gold. In 4 turns we'll get back 26 gpt, so we're okay on gold.
Turn 6 - Germans try to get a settler pair through our blockade
Kharkov:worker->worker
Grozny:worker->worker
49 gold, -9 gpt.
Road with Germany connected
Gems and 8 gold gets us dyes
Gems gets us 12 gpt and 13 gold from France (who also lacks incense, which I'll hook up).
After map trading we have 61 gold and 7 gpt.
Turn 7 - Minsk:Settler->Settler (maybe one more settler after this one and then infrastructure)
Dancing with the German settler pair...
Rome's getting eaten up. They've lost Pompeii to the Greeks and Veii and Antium to the Egyptians. They have a city on a 3 tile island, though, so they might survive.
Turn 8 - Moscow:Settler->Settler (see comment for Minsk)
St. Petersburg:Settler->Settler (see comment for Minsk)
Yakutsk:Harbor->worker (to connect itself to the rest of the empire. Then maybe a marketplace since it has a lot of costal tiles).
Turn 9 - Kiev:Courthouse->Worker (it should be producing these for a loooong time now, pumping 1 per turn....actually, it's one shield short
! If only it had a bg. It can still make 3 workers/4 turns (which is much better than 1 every 2 turns).
Turn 10 - Kiev:Worker->Worker
Riga:worker->worker
The AI got education this turn.
The Settlers are named for where I think they should go (best spots first, i.e. highest food). White dots are fillers.
Edit: Actually, Gray dot might be better off farther east if we build that white dot next to the game.
I fire some unneeded entertainers and make some entertainers taxmen.
I really don't think we should be revolting into a monarchy. We're not planning on warring very much, so republic is the way to go.
The best deal is with Cleo. Feudalism, WM and 208 gold gets us republic.
We are now down Monotheism and Invention.
Our anarchy ends next turn.
Turn 1 - We are now a Republic and The Germans begin sistine, so they got Theology this turn.
I MM our cities and we make 61 gpt at 30% luxes and 0% science.
Moscow switched to a settler. I'm going to try to fill in as much land as possible and then we should build marketplaces then libraries in our core cities.
I also notice we have no FP!
Sevastapol seems to be the best place as it'll make our northern cities productive.
I swap it to a courthouse for now.
F3 shows we have 19 workers, which is way too few for an empire of our size. We should have at least 40 by now.
Kiev can make 1 worker a turn with a courthouse, so I swap it to that now.
I also notice our workers aren't optimized. Please pay attention to worker moves, using them in optimal stacks can save a lot of time.
No two-fers available, so I hold off on trading.
Turn 2 - Minsk:Worker->Settler
Kharkov & Grozny riots (??? I just set them to not riot by working high trade tiles, too!)
French have Theology too, as they begin work on Sistine Chapel.
Still no deals
Turn 3 - St. Petersburg:Settler->Settler
Engineering for Monotheism from Carthage (exactly equal to each other, surprisingly).
The English don't have Theology but have invention, so we could get a twofer, but I'm confident there'll be a better deal soon (Theology is expensive).
Turn 4 - Moscow:Settler->Settler
Rostov
ikeman (why build a regular?)->BarracksAstrakhan:worker->Library (for expansion and to let it grow)
The French Complete the Hanging Gardens
The Greeks complete the Great Library.
Hmm...The English Have Theology now. Oh well.
Greece has Invention but not Theology (which it WILL get next turn thanks to TGL).
I guess I have to take the deal now (expensive though)
WM, 34 gpt, and 619 gold gets us Theology
Theology, 15 gpt and WM gets us Invention and 5 gold
Sh*t! They were paying us 35 gpt which ends this turn! Not good...
France and Germany have Gunpowder
I lower luxes to 20% (which was just for Kiev) and MM some
We are now gaining 28 gpt (which is still too few) with just 14 gold. Luckily, we stop paying 22 gpt to the French next turn....but also lose 31 gpt from the Germans, so the situation is even worse
.Map trading gets us up to 25 gold. I'm going to have to drop the lux rate and run entertainers if I can't find a way to get gold.
A road connecting us to Germany/France/England/Korea will complete in 2 turns, which will hopefully let us sell our excess luxuries for money.
Turn 5 - Now at 54 gold and -14 gpt. Map trades gets us up to 62 gold. In 4 turns we'll get back 26 gpt, so we're okay on gold.
Turn 6 - Germans try to get a settler pair through our blockade
Kharkov:worker->worker
Grozny:worker->worker
49 gold, -9 gpt.
Road with Germany connected
Gems and 8 gold gets us dyes
Gems gets us 12 gpt and 13 gold from France (who also lacks incense, which I'll hook up).
After map trading we have 61 gold and 7 gpt.
Turn 7 - Minsk:Settler->Settler (maybe one more settler after this one and then infrastructure)
Dancing with the German settler pair...
Rome's getting eaten up. They've lost Pompeii to the Greeks and Veii and Antium to the Egyptians. They have a city on a 3 tile island, though, so they might survive.
Turn 8 - Moscow:Settler->Settler (see comment for Minsk)
St. Petersburg:Settler->Settler (see comment for Minsk)
Yakutsk:Harbor->worker (to connect itself to the rest of the empire. Then maybe a marketplace since it has a lot of costal tiles).
Turn 9 - Kiev:Courthouse->Worker (it should be producing these for a loooong time now, pumping 1 per turn....actually, it's one shield short
! If only it had a bg. It can still make 3 workers/4 turns (which is much better than 1 every 2 turns).Turn 10 - Kiev:Worker->Worker
Riga:worker->worker
The AI got education this turn.
The Settlers are named for where I think they should go (best spots first, i.e. highest food). White dots are fillers.
Edit: Actually, Gray dot might be better off farther east if we build that white dot next to the game.
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