azzaman333
meh
And that has sunk to a 1.
How Euphoric,Depressed are you?
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And that has sunk to a 1.
10 about 10% of the time.
9 about 50% of the time.
8 about 40% of the time.
Been like that for the last 5 years.
9 about 50% of the time.
8 about 40% of the time.
Been like that for the last 5 years.
madviking
north american scum
Sure!
Who cares about the outcome of a football match? In fact, why rely on anything outside yourself to make or keep you happy?
madviking
north american scum
Sure!
Good man.
Winner
Diverse in Unity
I love mornings, everything seems better. And there is even some snow outside!
3
3
Congratulations for an improvement
I am now in slightly positive numbers (there is still a lot of things to wear me off though but se la vie I guess. So Bye bye depression and Hello positive thinking.
Kennigit
proud 2 boxer
I almost never feel anything close to euphoric, so I put myself in the middle depress scale (4).
I range from mildly happy to just being tired all the time--not necessarily sad and usually never a feeling of worthlessness, just not really having anything to do and the feeling of being "stuck in a rut" (even though the rut isn't bad at all).
So I average around content.
I range from mildly happy to just being tired all the time--not necessarily sad and usually never a feeling of worthlessness, just not really having anything to do and the feeling of being "stuck in a rut" (even though the rut isn't bad at all).
So I average around content.
As you're aware, nobody knows. All that is known is that certain medications, such as lithium salts for bipolar patients, alleviate some or most of the symptoms. If I remember correctly, you did try a large number of medications when you were younger and found that none of them were helpful - am I correct about that? If so, your decision is perfectly rational; you should do whatever works best for you.
Since everyone's biochemistry is different and nobody really knows the biochemical basis for depression or all the variants of it, medication is just a crapshoot. I would argue it's a crapshoot worth taking, though - medication has noticeably improved depression in me, my dad and several of his siblings, his mother, etc. I can't wait until we actually understand the genetic basis of this seemingly hereditary, medication-responsive form of depression, and how that differs from the genetics of people who fail to respond to medication.
I think you're claiming that article debunks the notion that depression is largely genetic. I looked at it, and it doesn't seem that's what it's really saying - it makes much narrower conclusions.
Apparently there's a serotonin transporter gene, 5-HTTLPR, for which one allele (denoted s) is correlated with higher rates of depression. The researchers found that people with this allele who grew up in supportive environments had markedly lower rates of depression than those who had the allele and an unsupportive family.
No surprises here - it's well-understood that mental health problems are the product of interactions among many genes and environmental factors. Supportive environments do decrease the odds of experiencing major depressive episodes among genetically susceptible individuals. But even well-supported genetically susceptible individuals are much more likely to experience depression than the general population.
There might also be differences in how much the environment matters based on which specific genes are present in a given depressive patient. There are almost certainly a large number of genotypes that can cause depression, and they may differ markedly in how powerful of a response the patients experience to environmental factors. All these researchers found is that one specific variant, depressive patients with the s allele in the 5-HTTLPR gene, do respond strongly to environmental factors. Other genes (or combinations of genes) associated with depression may lead to different environmental reactions.
I for one am depressed, as is/was my father, grandmother, and great-grandmother, and possibly even great-great-grandmother (she showed classic signs although psychiatry didn't really exist for her generation). All of us were raised in very supportive environments, but all of us developed depression anyway. I hope someday soon that I can affordably get my genome sequenced, along with others in my family, so as to better understand what happened.
tl;dr: Depression definitely has a strong genetic basis, but environmental factors matter too, and they may matter differently for different types of depression
Kozmos
Jew Detective
True, most of Hemingway's line went and offed themselves like he himself did.
Winner
Diverse in Unity
Isn't that a charmingly optimistic thought.
(If all women, some in particular, were to disappear right now, I'd up my current euphoria status to 7 at least.)
(If all women, some in particular, were to disappear right now, I'd up my current euphoria status to 7 at least.)
Sorry, I do not want to throw cold water but how do you know that even worse one(s) will not take the place...
I have a college I used to like but recently he has turned into almost complete nut...
Winner
Diverse in Unity
You mean a colleague?
And I meant all women. If I were religious, I'd have to believe they were created just to make men feel so bad about themselves that they would tear their hair out in desperation and scream "Why god, why...?!"
You mean a colleague?
And I meant all women. If I were religious, I'd have to believe they were created just to make men feel so bad about themselves that they would tear their hair out in desperation and scream "Why god, why...?!"
Thanks. My English can be awfull. Women are challenge. Thats for sure. But once you get used to the fact that with children and women you have to act differently you can get on better side of things...
The good news is(for the spiritual here) that God is a dude
btw my current depression/euphory status is: I dont even give a damn how I feel - which is usually pretty good sign...
mayor
Heart & Mind
really? mine would drop significantly if there wouldn't be any women left... I would get thouroughly confused who to impress and you know.....
Winner
Diverse in Unity
Too bad I cant get over 6 which is pretty good but it would take almost a miracle or something realy unforeseen to "make me fly"
rugbyLEAGUEfan
Deity
Discovered last night , for the umpteenth time (when am I gonna learn) , that the quickest slide possible from 9 or 10 right down to the 2 range is that period from arriving home with a massive KFC feast to wiping ones hands with those little refreshers towels when finished in disgusted regret.
Narz
keeping it real
Actually Lithium did help a bit, the only one out of 19 or 20. However, it slowed me down a bit, a bit being unacceptable to me. I'd rather be more scattered & unstable with higher energy.
To each their own. I'm certainly glad to hear your depression is better. Depression is so miserable I can't fault anyone for taking whatever measures they can to releave it.
I suppose I am coming at things from my own perspective, personally I do not believe it is my genetic destiny to be depressed, that is to say I nearly all of my depression is related to circumstances. Others seem certain that their depression is largely hereditary. And perhaps we are both right. I personally think more people are depressed now than need be but perhaps some in inevitable regardless of circumstance. I find it hard to believe that major depression is built into an genome (it seems like such a maladaption) but I could be wrong. In certain circumstances I've realized, depression could be very adaptive. When you don't know whether to fight or flee & any wrong movement could be fatal a hibernation type emotional response could be helpful.
Words fail me, hibernation is a poor choice but it's hard to put words to the experience (my experience anyway) of major depression. It feels like literally parts of me are dying (emotional parts, social parts, etc.). If I could do a brain scan of myself during these periods it would probably look like that.
I'm around an 8.5 now, and that could very well rise to a 10 in the next 24 hours. I worry all the time, but I'm generally a pretty positive and upbeat person...I don't get below 4 too often these days, although that wasn't always the case.
