How is your EU3 Game going?

[civ_king]

How did you get Scientific Revolution in 1511?

Other than that, that's amazing!

scientific_revolution = { 
        trigger = {
        OR = {    AND = {    [B]NOT = { innovative_narrowminded = -3 }
                trade_tech = 16 }[/B]
            trade_tech = 28 }
        }
        technology_cost = -0.1
        naval_tech_investment = 5
        land_tech_investment = 5
        trade_tech_investment = 5
        government_tech_investment = 5
        production_tech_investment = 5
        stability_cost_modifier = 0.33    #increases stability costs by 33%
        papal_influence = -0.05;
    }

see bolded (needed heavy innovative to Westernise so I accidentally met pre-reqs)

 

[remake20]

Here's a pretty funny screenshot I found online.

 

[Antilogic]

Which holy father is that, Pope Drunkard I?

 

[Tee Kay]

Edit: never mind

 

[Duke of Britain]

Quoting your post in Paradox Forums, Civking...that's quite serious

 

[civ_king]

Quoting your post in Paradox Forums, Civking...that's quite serious

Because it can be done at a quite low tech level and when done by Britain is 9001% broken?

 

[W|M]

Here's a pretty funny screenshot I found online.

This is what would have happened if Benedict IX had been immortal.

 

[civ_king]

Lulz, just found out there are two Belgiums in D&T, one is a renamed Flanders and then I got a decision to form Belgium which I selected (hey, it gave +2 centralization) and then turned a different colour and flag

 

[Duke of Britain]

Imperiale?

Mali blobbed!

AI Arabia!

English Egypt...

Elizabeth I, nice stats!

And my kingdom just after forming Spain! When i tried to take a screenshot of the world it went CTD, will try again later...

 

[Optical]

The Englis royal family... is the Dudleys

 

[Arakhor]

At roughly the right time too! Elizabeth obviously married the Earl of Leicester in that timeline.

 

[remake20]

Did you release Algeris and Tunisia or is the Aragonese Africa out of place?

 

[Civ'ed]

Mali blobbed!

at first I was like, wow.
Then I was like, AAARGHGURGLEGURGLEGURGLE.
A sub-saharan country that large?
*runs and hides*

 

[SouthernKing]

SK's AI Notes:
1. hausa on the coast
2. That does not look like the 1356 start's results. Did you start in 1399?
3. What hapoened to the Ottomans?

 

[Duke of Britain]

Did you release Algeris and Tunisia or is the Aragonese Africa out of place?

Vassalized them and then made them grow...

 

[hoplitejoe]

3. What hapoened to the Ottomans?

How many people have seen an even remotely successful AI Ottomans? Hell, I am impressed if they manage to capture Istanbul in the 1356 start.

 

[Antilogic]

How many people have seen an even remotely successful AI Ottomans? Hell, I am impressed if they manage to capture Istanbul in the 1356 start.

Not in my last few games. I thought DW, with the Ottoman tech group separate from the rest of the Middle East, was supposed to make this better. But the Ottomans have been crushed in both of my recent games by Austrian-led coalitions. There is more white in Anatolia than any other color.

 

[Tee Kay]

Okay, who wants to help me colour in the EU3 map for my mod?

Not in my last few games. I thought DW, with the Ottoman tech group separate from the rest of the Middle East, was supposed to make this better. But the Ottomans have been crushed in both of my recent games by Austrian-led coalitions. There is more white in Anatolia than any other color.

Actually, the Ottoman used to be in the Eastern tech group ie 90% tech rate. In DW the Ottoman group gets 85% tech rate, though it does start with tech level 5 (as opposed to 4) to compensate. But of course, the Ottomans generally battle Latin tech countries, and the Italian navies can generally crush the Ottoman navy easily and block the Dardanelles. Adding that both Austria and Castile are so ridiculously overpowered, and that the Ottomans are often at war with (thanks to cascading alliances, DotF and other things) Austria, Castile, several of the Italians, Hungary and even one or two of Timurids, Golden Horde, Mamlukes or England/Britain simultaneously, with no real allies it could depend on, well, it's not surprising that AI Ottomans generally do badly.

 

[Antilogic]

Actually, the Ottoman used to be in the Eastern tech group ie 90% tech rate. In DW the Ottoman group gets 85% tech rate, though it does start with tech level 5 (as opposed to 4) to compensate. But of course, the Ottomans generally battle Latin tech countries, and the Italian navies can generally crush the Ottoman navy easily and block the Dardanelles. Adding that both Austria and Castile are so ridiculously overpowered, and that the Ottomans are often at war with (thanks to cascading alliances, DotF and other things) Austria, Castile, several of the Italians, Hungary and even one or two of Timurids, Golden Horde, Mamlukes or England/Britain simultaneously, with no real allies it could depend on, well, it's not surprising that AI Ottomans generally do badly.

Interesting, I thought they were lumped with the ME. Guess I didn't pay enough attention there! I thought they tried to make enhancements (like the shock and fire modifiers are better than neighboring Middle-East countries and are on-par with the Latins), but they just weren't enough.

The AI doesn't have a solid grasp on handling multi-front wars in this game, which is the big contributor to the diplomatic problem you outlined above.

 

[Dachs]

Adding that both Austria and Castile are so ridiculously overpowered, and that the Ottomans are often at war [...] no real allies it could depend on, well, it's not surprising that AI Ottomans generally do badly.

You say this as though any state in EU3 has consistent allies and as though any alliance can be reasonably construed as 'dependable' unless it involves two human players who are concurrently having sex with each other (though usually not at the same time).