I'm really interested in our OP's response to his own hypothetical here especially as he seems one of the lowest dollar amount voters among serious voters. (I think a lot of people's responses or votes may be flippant but the outlier there is rather interesting). Also I'm curious as to the take on stuff like "working in a different city" or "working with older professionals" and how that was expected to matter - how you expected thread responders to respond to that. For instance those factors rate like a 0 in importance to me even though they're part of the hypothetical.
How much would it take to get you to drop out of school?
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GenMarshall
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Anything over US$40K.
For over $75k I definitely would. The hypothetical does allow for further education (which I would pursue, most likely), even if at a lesser institution (I hear USyd is still pretty reasonable). From an economic point of view, it doesn't make any sense to not drop out, unless the potential $225k you earn over 3 years would've been offset by what you get after your education, remembering that you're accruing debt by being a student. Learning is great, but it's still essentially about making yourself economically valuable.
Sure. . Here is my thinking, along with my crafting of the OP.
Obviously, everybody's answer should be different...as they studied different things in school, value different things, have different pressures in school, etc. It's a personal question with no right or wrong answer.
I had just recently transferred to Ohio State when I was 20, and my mom was fighting cancer. Money was a *huge* concern, and most of my strong support system and friends were in the Columbus Metro area...moving far away, and suddenly surrounding myself with people who would be less likely to have things in common with me would certainly have been a strike against taking the job. Now, at 24, its less of a big deal...but it would have given me pause as a junior. I wasn't a grown up yet.
I have a Political Science degree, and if I'm totally honest with myself, without additional education, its unlikely I'd make more than 75K. Me and my family were under significant financial pressure at that time (it was not a given that I would stay in school then actually...and given everything that happened, its a damned miracle I graduated on time), and a job at 75K would have allowed me to operate completely debt free, and send money home. If it didn't work out, after 3 years, I'd have plenty of money to go back and do something else.
I had a job offer my senior year that would have required me to drop out, and I seriously considered it...but the salary wasn't high enough.
Everybody obviously values different things...but I can see a lot of 20 year olds being pretty unhappy if they were taken completely out of their element, even if they suddenly had money. We see it with athletes all the time, who are even better compensated.
Thoughtful Thug
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Well it isn't a question for me. I never went to college, nor I will ever go to one. Too stupid.
This is off-topic in this thread. But I am having a hard time understanding how anyone can get a political science degree, and then expect a job at 75K a year. What exactly the jobs are?
This is off-topic in this thread. But I am having a hard time understanding how anyone can get a political science degree, and then expect a job at 75K a year. What exactly the jobs are?
Once you get above the entry levels, campaign work actually pays pretty well. Turnover is very high in political organizations, so ambitious people get promoted quickly. A senior adviser to a mayor, or a US Rep, or a consultant for a few state reps can make over 75G.
Of course, any job you could get with a liberal arts degree would be open to a Poli Sci major...there are plenty of other opportunities outside of politics. I work for a large corporate recruiting company. My girlfriend was a political science major at a pretty renown school and she works as a special education teacher. I have another poli sci friend who works as an analyst for an energy firm (her job has nothing to do with policy). You just have to be creative.
kiwitt
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Another thread that forgets about us non-US people.
Don't you want us to participate ?
Oh for heavens sake, its an OT meme, like the Radioactive monkeys. That's clearly a joke option.
kiwitt
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"OT Meme" - a what ?
I am an old bugga - what's a meme, sounds like a girls name "Mimi"
I am an old bugga - what's a meme, sounds like a girls name "Mimi"
It's an inside joke. During the 2008 election season, we had posters who would try to argue that every single possible news story would hurt Obama politically. As a joke, me and a few other posters added an X hurts Obama politically at the end of poll questions that have nothing to do with Obama....eating a sammich hurts obama, the boston red sox hurt obama, relationship advice hurts obama, etc.
Typically, and especially so when I'm an OP, the last 1 or 2 options of a poll are very often jokes.
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At that stage of college, probably $250 to make it pretty likely, $100K and maybe if the job were one I really wanted. One year later, and I would have strongly considered $100K. $40K would not have been enough, though - I may have been able to actually pursue that option if I had wanted to, but I didn't want to.
As of right now, $75K at a job that I actively wanted and I might be willing to show up in two weeks if I knew that there was no way I could get a job for the rest of the year otherwise. But it wouldn't really be dropping out because I'd still get my degree even if I 'dropped out' right now.
Had I really enjoyed college, it would have been higher, perhaps not monetarily but in terms of how awesome the opportunity would have to be. The ideal situation would still have been dropping out of college to form a (hopefully) very successful startup.
edit: $250K, not $250.
As of right now, $75K at a job that I actively wanted and I might be willing to show up in two weeks if I knew that there was no way I could get a job for the rest of the year otherwise. But it wouldn't really be dropping out because I'd still get my degree even if I 'dropped out' right now.
Had I really enjoyed college, it would have been higher, perhaps not monetarily but in terms of how awesome the opportunity would have to be. The ideal situation would still have been dropping out of college to form a (hopefully) very successful startup.
edit: $250K, not $250.
I've always wanted to be a scientist, so no.
Besides, it's quite possible if I chose the path to make up to the 250K option anyway.
Besides, it's quite possible if I chose the path to make up to the 250K option anyway.
amadeus
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I'd want upwards of $100K, based on the question (what I thought when I was 20.)
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