How to get a job (or not)

The IRA can't carry the loan but a HELOC or securities based line of credit could work if that's an available option. There is no downside to having a conduit IRA since you can choose not to move it to a 401(k) but gives you the option if you need to.

So do you want to stay in the field or consider something else?
 
My cousin is a senior exec in that space and I know he belongs to a number of associations (Midwest assoc. of rail shippers and board member of Traffic Club of Chicago). I know if I was looking I would want to start with that kind of network. Are there any in your area like that?
 
I have 20 years in logistics, at one level or another.

J
What industry are you in? How many years before you want to officially retire?
 
Currently in Logistics Dept of a large retailer. I can retire tomorrow, but only from my current employer. Actual retirement ten years or so.

J
Retail is a tough place to be. With what you have posted, you could take you company retirement and then go look for a better job for the next ten years that would boost your social security payments when you officially retire. Places you might consider dispatching for (or other non driver tasks) are:

Fed Ex
UPS
Amazon
Netflix DVDs

Or, if you have any tech product manufacturers in your area, try them. They are shipping things all over.

In addition, trucking is just huge these days with all the oil products being moved by truck. Your dispatching skills might find a great home with one of them. 6000 trucks a day drive past my office every day and most are moving stuff between the rail hub in Albuquerque and the oil fields in the NW part of the state. We lease a big empty parking lot to trucking companies so they have a place to leave their trucks for a few days while drivers are changed or take a break. Managing the movements of such fleets is a huge job, but you might excel at it.
 
This is pretty much what I was thinking. UPS has an opening coming in April. I'm keeping in touch. I have general office skills and some statistics background.

25 years ago, I worked in the actuarial office of an insuance HQ. I have a facility with spreadsheets. I would like to find something along those lines, but there no insurance HQ locally. Any suggestions, since the experience is not current.

I am also a published sportswriter, for pay.

J
 
This is pretty much what I was thinking. UPS has an opening coming in April. I'm keeping in touch. I have general office skills and some statistics background.

25 years ago, I worked in the actuarial office of an insuance HQ. I have a facility with spreadsheets. I would like to find something along those lines, but there no insurance HQ locally. Any suggestions, since the experience is not current.

J

State Farm has a pretty substantial regional HQ in Bakersfield Ca, which is one of the best places to live that I have experienced, despite what people might think who have never lived there.
 
State Farm has a pretty substantial regional HQ in Bakersfield Ca, which is one of the best places to live that I have experienced, despite what people might think who have never lived there.

I have never heard anyone say this ever. Bakersfield has seemed like the quintessential city I don't want to live in. Please elaborate.
 
well I know this isn't really a good question or one that needs a response:

When I do eventually quit my job (I don't know if that will be october 1 2015--new US fiscal year and funding changes--, or one or two or three years from now, or if I get fired anytime sooner), I'll be applying for entry level (engineering) jobs again.

I already know HR processes do not follow what they post as the requirements, but does anyone think if a job posting says <1 year experience and I apply with 1.5-2 years of "experience" I'll actually get turned away?

at least I'll fit right into the "entry level job; years experience 1-3 required" this time though :)
 
I think you will be fine. Remember the goal of HR and the hiring department is to find the best person for the position. You might have to accept entry level pay, though, even if you have a bit more than entry level experience.
 
Underselling others is considered my greatest strength!

Pay is not a major concern of mine. I am in a stable financial state and will be a single, non-property owning male with no known medical issues with a stable, working, older payed off car that should be good another 4+ years. If I get an engineering job that is anywhere close to market expectations, the pay is fine for my (fortunate) situation.

I'm already below the 10% of raw pay of my degree for my job title , though I did get a relocation pay. My cost of living area isn't too high though, an online calculator seems to use 104% to adjust to a direct comparison to Atlanta, Ga. Though for a comparison to a pricey west coast city like seattle, wa would list 133% (i.e. if I lived there, I'd have use a number closer to the median; i.e. I would basically be at the median).

granted "engineer I" typically doesn't change to "engineer II" until like 3-5 years experience, so just looking at just "engineer I" gets salary data for people at entry and after 1-3 years experience (i.e. some raises, and before any Professional Engineer registration that marks a big change in salary for some engineers in the 4-5 year mark)

*edit* My benefits are solid enough too, not too much to get the health/dental plans (i.e. the fact that I have one to begin with is good)
 
Why would you quit your current job?
 
i dont do any engineering functions, which makes it impossible to do such things as become a Professional Engineer and advance my career
 
That seems like a good reason. Where are you looking for a new job?
 
I might have written this elsewhere on the forum, maybe just in fiftychat but when I was in LA, I was kicking it with some new folks around my age hustling in the media game.

One of them was a graphic designer who got a copy of photoshop say 6 years ago. He had been playing around in MS paint and stuff, and quickly took to his new software.

Currently he has regular work with at least one big media company, a bevy of social media followers, and some celebrity endorsement. This is his game:

He would make logos for people higher on the media game, like famous musicians, posting it up on twitter. If any of them bite, it goes on the resume, and he now has one more play on his portfolio and gets more followers.

If there was a big concert that had a bad flyer, he would make his own better one and offer it as an alternative. This could get him future clients, more resume points, and more followers.

With more followers, he can get more attention in the first place. He makes a logo for someone, they are curious, they see he has a thousand people behind him and others validating his talent, he gets another endorsement.

Eventually through this hustle he gets a regular paying gig as a graphic designer.

MEANWHILE:

He kicks it all the time, but while he's kicking it, he's working on his graphic design the whole time. He'll chime in to say something cool or funny or interesting but he's cool zoomed into his work. Meanwhile his friend he kicks it with most is trying to network up the ladder. As such, the friend is bringing in people who can be potential clients. Since he has more success than the friend, the friend benefits by being validated by his success. It's wonderfully symbiotic.


My takeaway for his method of growing success is this:

Push. Product. Up.
Push that product UP the ladder. When someone UP the ladder validates DOWN to you, endorsing your work, you get more social media that gives you more leverage to push more product even further up the ladder.
Always be working.
Don't stop socializing.
 
That seems like a good reason. Where are you looking for a new job?

the where isn't important to me (when I moved here I didn't own any furniture and drove only with my car, but now I have basic apartment furnishings so moving would be more of a hassle)

the when is important I guess. I'm on a contract for most of 2014 on non-engineering stuff (I work for a government contractor), so I have to hope either

(a) I get on a contract/project that I might like more when this one runs out -- if I'm happy I wouldn't quit

(b) I don't get fired before then (I don't think I will be). But if I get fired, it makes things simple.

or (c) I can clearly voice to my management and such that if I don't get something that can make me the slightest bit happy, then I'll be heading out [hopefully with a job lined up....]

I don't want to "burn all my bridges" and whatnot, but when things are so contract based I don't want to try to leave in the middle of a contract.

my fear is (d) I get told they'll make a big effort to put me on a contract where I'd be happy, after some delay an Okayish project comes up that still doesn't do much engineering work, but then do I stick around for another year or two or three just hoping "Okayish" turns to "OK" turns to "finally happy" over time.
 
I have never heard anyone say this ever. Bakersfield has seemed like the quintessential city I don't want to live in. Please elaborate.

You can safely call that city Necropolis, for that's its name. The vault door was left open there when the nukes fell.
 
There is nothing wrong with letting your bosses know that you are actively seeking real engineering work and you hope they can find that for you. That tells them you will be looking elsewhere if they don't provide it for you. That tactic can be risky if your bosses are not the supportive or kindly type. They may just not renew your next gig.

Since you are already in the contract business, you might contact higher profile Engineering firms (see Hygro's post) and let them know you do contract work, if you can moonlight while under your present contract.
 
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