Fairness flies out the window when people refuse to concede any factual points that refute their worldview and then litter every thread with the same argument.
No one really cares what he thinks of the CSA, we just want him to stop destroying the forum with the same spam posts over and over.
Except that nobody has ever given me any proof that my view is wrong. At all.
@Leoreth- I don't "Hate" Lincoln. There were a lot of imperialists in American history, and Lincoln was arguably the LEAST morally dubious of those, but it was still imperialism, which you guys refuse to admit, instead claiming it was a noble crusade to free the slaves with no evidence.
That's because it's a dumb real life application of a prisoner's dilemma.
Huh?
, I forgot to add to the rest: The abstract level of "freedom" that Danes arguably enjoy over Americans is also about surveillance and stuff, but we actually passed a few laws in the wake of 9/11 directly imported from the PATRIOT act that made surveillance a legally viable solution to most stuff. So while not as out there as a "free" state that tortures people on an offshore base, we do have that surveillance policy you seem to think is the nominator. (We just don't abuse our laws as much as I think you do.) But strict airport security and surveillance, even if not as extreme, is here to stay and it can't be enough of a nominator to make a significant difference.
So you guys have the same stuff in regards to surveilance, you would just argue that your country doesn't abuse it while ours does? That technically requires evidence, although it wouldn't surprise me.
Its not just "Higher airport security." I'm not suggesting that it should necessarily be as easy to get onto an airplane as it is to get on a train (I think the free-market should determine that though, not the government). But the TSA acts in ways in this country that would get them arrested in any sane country (Whether there are any I don't know.) Warrantless pat downs, even on little children and old women (Yes, it happens, I've researched it), scanners that almost might as well just be strip searches, and even arbitrary stoppings based on political dissidence (They stopped Ron Paul's family for crying out loud, because the 77 year old politcian and his wife "Migth be a threat to Mitt Romney", look it up.)
Maybe your country is better than mine in those regards. If so, congratulations. Now think about why maybe "Evil government" gets thrown around in the US so much more.
We, however, have no absolutely ridiculous discourses about "evil government" or "socialism" or "liberty" when it comes to welfare; all of our economic policies are argued with pragmaticism. The only idealism we have in our state is the idea to help the poor by pulling them out of poverty with reeducation and giving them work to support themselves by. Redistribution of goods, while bureaucratic and making some things more expensive (ie the cost of living too) our poor has a much better purchasing power than Americans, giving them more freedom to claim opportunities, granting more social mobility, the freedom to choose what you want to do.. Our businesses, big and small, have it much easier under our laws too, although I have to admit that I have no more knowledge and information about that as I don't run businesses, don't care to and recognize our businessmen are very happy to be here even though we have a heavy tax weight.
Its not ridiculous at all, its common sense. Common sense dictates that two hundred people voting for five people to redistribute their wealth amongst the other hundred and ninety five is still theft. Its amazing that only American Libertarians and a few smaller government conservatives can understand this very simple concept.
The thing is, you don't care, because allegedly it makes life better. There is still absolutely no basis for it. At least admit that, yes, you are supporting theft, but that you think its necessary on pragmatic grounds. But don't claim that it isn't theft, because that's exactly what it is.
