[RD] I'm transitioning. If you've ever been confused about the T in LGBT, ask me anything

I think I addressed this when responding to Fred, but quoting you to get the ping.
I understand your reasoning, but it's still somewhat incomplete compared to the core point.
The core point about sharing informations with people one enters a relationship with, tend to be related with the elements which are important to the relationships. For example, you don't say to random guys in the street if you have children or not, but for someone who starts dating you, that's the kind of things which need to be shared. It's about expectations.
You seem to consider that "being trans" is an information that is not important for a relationship, and I understand your point of view. I'm just pretty sure it's a point of view not shared by a lot of people, who would think it's a rather important bit of information in a relationship. Regardless of the morality aspect, I'd say even for purely practical purpose, it's probably better to be upfront about informations that might have an effect on a relation, rather than let them to be discovered much later, where they could be much more impactful and possibly have negative effects on people who would otherwise simply have passed each other without bad feelings.
 
I know that I'm not really contre or Megan, for that matter, but in all honesty, the chance of a person which would raise noise over their potential partner being trans, and, well, a trans person getting together with them, would be quite damn low, I'll be fair.
 
I know that I'm not really contre or Megan, for that matter, but in all honesty, the chance of a person which would raise noise over their potential partner being trans, and, well, a trans person getting together with them, would be quite damn low, I'll be fair.
We must really not live in the same world then. If being trans were as easily accepted as you claim, this entire thread would probably not exist.
 
I'll be fair, I'm a bit biased due to the fact I'm a regular IOTer and that certain community's very friendly to trans people.

Apologies to contre/Megan if I'm intruding into the thread.
 
I understand your reasoning, but it's still somewhat incomplete compared to the core point.
The core point about sharing informations with people one enters a relationship with, tend to be related with the elements which are important to the relationships. For example, you don't say to random guys in the street if you have children or not, but for someone who starts dating you, that's the kind of things which need to be shared. It's about expectations.
You seem to consider that "being trans" is an information that is not important for a relationship, and I understand your point of view. I'm just pretty sure it's a point of view not shared by a lot of people, who would think it's a rather important bit of information in a relationship. Regardless of the morality aspect, I'd say even for purely practical purpose, it's probably better to be upfront about informations that might have an effect on a relation, rather than let them to be discovered much later, where they could be much more impactful and possibly have negative effects on people who would otherwise simply have passed each other without bad feelings.

I get exactly what you're saying, akka. You think being trans is an important part of somebody's identity, and relationships are built on trust and not keeping secrets away from your partner. In that regard, I in fact agree with you a hundred percent. That's why I never advised straight up lying about the situation. I would be frank on my infertility and lack of desire for children, because I don't want to lead someone on for three years, get married, and then immediately divorce over family planning.

However, as a counterpoint, not immediately disclosing my trans origins is the safer bet in your hypothetical. Say I just met a random guy at a party or something. This guy is a transphobe, and thinks it's morally acceptable to kill trans people if he gets "duped" by us (all too common, unfortunately :( ). If I immediately disclose being trans, I put myself in real, physical danger for assault or even murder. If I find out about these views and kept my trans identity a secret, I can cut him out of my life and just move on.

Ultimately though, I'm going to say what I said to fred: just because a lot of people are transphobic, doesn't change the fact that transphobia is a social construct, and the only solution to an unhealthy social construct is to destroy the construct in the minds of society.

I know that I'm not really contre or Megan, for that matter, but in all honesty, the chance of a person which would raise noise over their potential partner being trans, and, well, a trans person getting together with them, would be quite damn low, I'll be fair.

Yeah, tolni, I really appreciate the sentiment, and I wish you were right, but given that you warned me to never disclose I'm trans if I visit you in Bulgaria for my own safety, I know you don't even belive that.
 
I think gay men meeting for sex in bathrooms is probably a dying habit and probably rare now in places where it's easy for gays to meet elsewhere.

The George Michael incident happened about 20 years ago.

I think it's necessary to tell a romantic partner if you are trans but it doesn't have to be done on the first date. I do think it's better done early in the relationship.
 
I think that the majority of people would not want to date a trans person. Not telling them that you are trans (even for a single date) might have some pretty bad consequences.
 
While I myself have dated a trans person and had no issue with it, I can see a number of people that I know (especially the men I know) being very upset if they found out their GF/BF was a trans after months of dating. I don't think that sort of thing is fair to the non-trans person. I do agree that you don't broadcast the fact that you are trans right away, but full disclosure is a must in any healthy relationship. Something that large and game-breaking (for some people) should be dealt with early on, IMHO.

In my case, I was told early on (after a few dates, and before she and I became intimate). There was never any issue on my part, but I did appreciate knowing up front.
 
Mismatched genitalia could be a concern, but yeah aside from that it shouldn't be an issue.
 
It would be a turn-off for me. I think when it comes to issues of sexual attraction it's different. I don't have issues with transgender people in other circumstances.
 
Why wouldn't they? Aside from baldfaced bigotry, I mean.

The single biggest talking point of the gay marriage movement was that it didn't interfere with straight people or their relationships, but I'm beginning to think that was a steaming load of hokey.
 
I fail to see a relationship between gay marriage and trans-cis relationships.
 
Why wouldn't they? Aside from baldfaced bigotry, I mean.

It would be a turn-off for me. I think when it comes to issues of sexual attraction it's different. I don't have issues with transgender people in other circumstances.

The single biggest talking point of the gay marriage movement was that it didn't interfere with straight people or their relationships, but I'm beginning to think that was a steaming load of hokey.

Moderator Action: Once again, this thread is going too close to arguments for an 'ask a'. Can we please do without the 'chip ins' - please resist the urge to comment on others' answers, or on answers to others' questions.
 
I know that I'm not really contre or Megan, for that matter, but in all honesty, the chance of a person which would raise noise over their potential partner being trans, and, well, a trans person getting together with them, would be quite damn low, I'll be fair.

Contrast a relationship with one night stands. Does it matter if a one night stand has kids? Does it matter if a one night stand has a history? I think it'd be damn near mandatory to discuss it if you're gonna be in a relationship with the person.

If I were dating and if someone asked me on a date, I would be upfront about it before the date. That's just me. I'd rather save the heartache and the constant anxiety of being found out.
 
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The single biggest talking point of the gay marriage movement was that it didn't interfere with straight people or their relationships, but I'm beginning to think that was a steaming load of hokey.

You're in Israel, right? Can anyone force you to date a Palestinian?
 

LOL this show's OT's blatant hypocrisy

Someone being charged with rape over religion is (rightfully) seen as draconian and insane, but once somebody is trans is involved, and suddenly we have the burden of disclosing everything about us.

Thank's for the link, Zelig. That's all I needed to see.
 
You're in Israel, right? Can anyone force you to date a Palestinian?

No, but I'd not want to date a girl and find out afterward that she wasn't Jewish.
 
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