Imperium Offtopicum: The Aftermath

[Kan' Sharuminar]

federation leader: then we shall support the rebels, in any way that they want. we are sending 10,000 of our best fighters to Vermont proper (where i assume the capital is) to hold off abhorrent attacks.

and, we cannot think of any valid CB to declare war on Monaco based Vermont.

Getting to Vermont requires fighting through abhorrents, or going through Scottish territory. We will counter the former, and not allow the latter.

John Kerry: Any aid given to the rebels will be seen as an act of war against Vermont, the rebels have chosen there fate by opposing me, don't let there fate be your own.

Regardless of this, Scotland will provide humanitarian aid for the civilian populace of Vermont.

 

[Virote_Considon]

To Terrance888 and the other African leaders: Petrograd strongly advises you step down your regional isolationist rhetoric. The previous world wars were caused by such militant regional sentiment; the path you seek now is the exact same path as has been trodden. In essence, what the Marians have said. (Our diplomatic cables are a little slow as of recent. We blame the Abhorrents).

To Vermont (Vermont) and Vermont (Monaco): Petrograd would like to see this situation end peacefully. Whilst we must respect the utmost sovereignty of the Monaco government, we would perhaps advise that they could come to a two-state solution, or perhaps New France could receive vast amounts more autonomy?

oh that. just ignore him and let Russia deal with that upstart nation.

Russia? Which Russia? Petrograd knows of no Russia.

...also, we are unaware of any south east asian coastal cities belongnign to the hetmanate.

The Hetmanate has a right-of-passage with the Eastern Federation.

 

[Terrance888]

To Petrograd

So that means there should be no accountability in this world? At all? We have asked german leaders to answer, simply because we are alarmed by their rapid expansion and what it might signify. They haven't answered for three years while continuing their expansion. Only recently they have responded with an offbeat explanation.

Africa is the last fertile frontier on this earth. It must stay clean of humanitarian disasters and subjugation.

 

[Terrance888]

Germany has the same dream as any other nation composed of sentient individuals: a better life for its citizenry. So long as Germany does not tread on the interests of other states, and shows peaceful intentions, they should be accepted as brothers. This rule should apply to all nation-states, across creed, color, geographical origin, or, increasingly, species.

Yes. Their citizenry.

They have not yet spoken of how they will intergrate the locals into the population of THEIR CITIZENERY. For all we know, they are not citizens at all. Their country is called GERMANY, a country based on the nationalization tendencies GERMANS. There are no evidence that they would accept Africans into their government, despite taking African lands. They may have their capital on the land of Africa, but of the people of Africa?

And how would NIMBY cause war again? Think, if we all, every single one of us, every single nation, stayed in our back yard and asked before vising our neighbor's backyard like civilized people, there would be no war. THEY expanded into AFRICA without any announcement of African citizenship, infrastructure or anything.

For an example of responsible expansion, we have always respected the locals, and have given them voice both through various labor unions as well as through our representative government. Zulu is simply the most common language, although all cultures are accepted into our confederacy.

Another example is you, the Marians. We simply asked you to assert your methods and left you alone. We are assured that the locals will become citizens, and that the government will work well to protect the people.

For a final contrast, we have the Germans. They have recklessly expanded across western africa, with no regard to accountability or the locals. Oh sure, they are not 'terrorizing' them, but living without say in their government is bad enough. Your capital is here? Nice, how many African Citizens can you name? How about their rights compared to citizens brought from Germany?

We do not want war, nor do we want the rights of Africans be stripped by illogical and disreputable expansion. We want Africa to belong to Africans, either by an African Government, or a Government that allows local Africans to be citizens with full rights as they deserve.

 

[Mathalamus]

for the record: the federation agrees with the above, but will not actively enforce it unless we believe that the nation is being evil to africans.

 

[Tani Coyote]

We too desire representative systems all over the world - despite some alleging that the Presidency of the Federation is too powerful - and in that, we have common agreement.

As such, we will ask the Germans to state their intent in Africa, so as to lay this issue to rest... Africa is fertile and its bounty is plenty enough to assist much of sentientkind, but alas, the Sentients must work together over it or fight to the last drop for it instead.

 

[BSmith1068]

Vermont Invades the provinces that have pink arrows pointed at them, and if they succeed then invade the one with the pink X, if none of them succeed then launch a nuke at the province with the red x.



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To: Vermont
From: Kingdom of Konchasa

Do you really think that this will go un-noticed? That the African nations will stand by and let you attack one of our allies? If you proceed with this attack, you will have activated the Pan-African defensive alliance and you will be at war with all of the allies of the West African Alliance.

We also deplore you for even suggesting that you might use nuclear weapons in one of the last remaining regions of the world untouched by their horror.

I suggest you re-consider.

 

[Prospo]

In new Portugal today, as threats of nuclear war hung in the air, democracy made another leap forward. The Council, formerly appointed by the Dictator Adao Antanonio Santos, has now been opened to open elections by the public. Though canidates are still nominated by Santos, and the council has very little real power, the masses have finnaly been given their voice again. The PRP has stated that further democratization will occur. There is probably time for one more reform before election season, so it looks like the PRP will make it a big one in order to ensure they're victorious.

In other news, fortifications have been erected in all provinces of the empire as the military prepares to counter any abhorrent threat to the securtiy of their nation.

 

[DroopyTofu]

To: Vermont
From: Kingdom of Konchasa

Do you really think that this will go un-noticed? That the African nations will stand by and let you attack one of our allies? If you proceed with this attack, you will have activated the Pan-African defensive alliance and you will be at war with all of the allies of the West African Alliance.

We also deplore you for even suggesting that you might use nuclear weapons in one of the last remaining regions of the world untouched by their horror.

I suggest you re-consider.

Sorry to be the one to point it out, but a defensive alliance would not be activated, because The Federation was the one that started it.

 

[BSmith1068]

The Federation is not the one being attacked there, so yes it would.

And even if the Federation is not in our alliance, using nuclear weapons anywhere in our so-far untouched region would be grounds for serious diplomatic, if not military, action.

 

[Mathalamus]

Africa isn't completely untouched by the nuclear war. unless of course, you all forgot about Benghazi.

 

[Double A]

Northern Africa, throughout history, has always had a separate culture from the rest of Africa, and as such, a separate region. Africa is unspoiled, and any who use nuclear weapons on the continent shall be shot.

Repeatedly.

 

[GenMarshall]

To Terrance888 - We ask that you cease and desist on such accusations. The Africans in the German colonies are fully, FULLY, integrated as full citizens and share the same rights as any other individual. The government has allowing the local Africa and full rights that they deserve. We've been doing that for YEARS! We ask that you leave us in peace as you would with the Marians.

Also, understand that we've declared ourselves as a nuclear-weapons free zone. This policy extends to our colonies as well. After being on the receiving end of nukes, we don't want to see other nations suffering the same fate of seeing a nuclear warhead coming at them.

The leaders extends their sincere apologies on the delay on reaching to you due to trying to maintain order in the mainland with fending off Abhorrents and developing a way to clean up the nuclear mess. We do ask to be more patient with us and not go off in an ultimatum.

To Marians - Our intentions are quite simple, a self sufficient colony away from the nuclear wasteland that plagues Europe. This even includes granting citizenship, rights, and protection to local Africans. We don't want to be pestered as happened with Singaporegate.

To Vermont - Your threat on the use of nuclear weapons against other African nations are starting to become worry some. A well as being put off with hearing that you're undergoing nuclear proliferation. It also does not help that you're considering on ethnic cleansing against your own people. Put down your atomic arms before you destroy the last refuge for mankind.

Only recently they have responded with an offbeat explanation.

OOC: Ok, before flipping off the lid and assuming I am "ignoring you", I have not been following this thread for weeks (due to computer troubles on my end having to take it serviced for repairs). In the future, I would appreciate it if you contact me via vm or pm instead of going with an ultimatum.

 

[Tani Coyote]

The Social Nationalist Party and President feel we can, without a doubt, say the Marian people are satisfied by Germany's explanation. They merely wish to make a better home for themselves, and are willing to take the locals under their wing...

Now, apart from petty regionalism which can only cause bloodshed in the long run, it sounds like both parties benefit.

Therefore, as a multicultural state, but considered African by many due to Africa being the heart of our economic and political lifestyle, the Federation states Germany has, for the time being, proven to be a peaceful, well-intentioned state. Sure, one could say they're worth watching, but isn't every state?

 

[GenMarshall]

To Marians - Thank you for understanding. If nessicary, we would come to aid to any African nation that is threatened by outside forces. Though we doubt we'd be accepted into the West African Alliance. Especially now that Vermont is saber rattling and threatening the use of atomic arms which has caused us to become very concern, especially given our nuclear-weapons free zone policy.

To Kingdom of Konchasa - We stand besides you in the event any attacker desires to lob nukes at you. Even though were not in the West African Alliance, the Germans will support you.

 

[Mathalamus]

Therefore, as a multicultural state, but considered African by many due to Africa being the heart of our economic and political lifestyle, the Federation states Germany has, for the time being, proven to be a peaceful, well-intentioned state. Sure, one could say they're worth watching, but isn't every state?

...which one of us deserves to be called the federation? we both have federation in our national names.

 

[Mathalamus]

Especially now that Vermont is saber rattling and threatening the use of atomic arms.

what do you mean threatening? he will launch at least one nuke, and at the wrong nation at that.

i can correct him, aiming his nuke for the correct nation (mine), if only to spare that poor innocent nation.

 

[GenMarshall]

what do you mean threatening? he will launch at least one nuke, and at the wrong nation at that.

i can correct him, aiming his nuke for the correct nation (mine), if only to spare that poor innocent nation.

Do you know the consequences of getting hit? We hate to see your lands turned into nuclear wastelands .

 

[Link]

China would like to state that from hence force, we will take military action againt anyone to make use of a nuclear weapon of any kind. This will be effective as soon as the abhorrent threat is dealt with.

 

[Mathalamus]

Do you know the consequences of getting hit? We hate to see your lands turned into nuclear wastelands .

as opposed to letting the west African alliance being hit? they will suffer the same nuclear wastelands. what can we do? Vermont wants to go out with a bang.

west African alliance: since we know where the nuke will strike, due to Vermont's incompetency, we suggest you evacuate anythign important from the general area.